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[Dr Cowley]

This is caving to grifters



Edit: "Osss... I'm Non-Binaly"

 

[San Dan Glokta]

First.. who cares about any of this? Maybe 20 people?

Second why are you mad that you can't destroy tables and draw blood from npcs? Get therapy.

Third .. still not buying this but love watching the train wreck of backlash.

We are kindred spirts lol

 

[Lux77]

What's this thing with term "grifter" in recent times. Apparently everyone is a grifter now.

 

[ManaByte]

What's this thing with term "grifter" in recent times. Apparently everyone is a grifter now.

People who create outrage just to drive up engagement on YouTube or X to earn a payout each month.

 

[Felessan]

So much salty tears
Finally those who thought that anything can be explained by "it's just a fantasy" stepped on landmine

 

[Bumblebeetuna]

Strongly disagree. Simulations are a genre. Educational is a genre. First games had people with historical knowledge working on them, that is what made them so amazing. Yes there was fantasy on top of that, sure, but you didn’t fly into Jerusalem on a dragon.

My favorite part of the first game was the end where you fight the Al Mualim after he has cast a spell on all of the townspeople and made you fight clones of all the people you’d assassinated previously in the game. I remember learning about these techniques in high school. And then you fight Al Mualim himself and he makes clones of himself, like eight or nine of them. Had there been ten or eleven clones, I would have been upset. But eight or nine clones is still historically accurate. Then he uses magic to teleport around. That wasn’t in any of my school history books but it must have been real, AC is historically accurate after all.

 

[San Dan Glokta]

What's this thing with term "grifter" in recent times. Apparently everyone is a grifter now.

Its basically car drifting but you use the G-spot instead of the G-force to maneuver the car.

 

[MMaRsu]

First.. who cares about any of this? Maybe 20 people?

Second why are you mad that you can't destroy tables and draw blood from npcs? Get therapy.

Third .. still not buying this but love watching the train wreck of backlash.

What.

Im mad about censorship.

You know, in a fictional setting

Maybe governments and others shouldnt be able to tell you what you can and cant do in a fictional product.

 

[Pejo]

What's this thing with term "grifter" in recent times. Apparently everyone is a grifter now.

It's the new word for "person I don't like" when you feel that they haven't done bad enough things to go all the way to calling them a nazi (yet).

Regarding this change, I think it's a rare sign of respect by Ubi amidst a sea of "we're gonna do it anyway".

If you're like "it's a shrine who cares?" then do the same to some Muslim relics and see how it goes. These things have meaning because people give meaning to it.

 

[MMaRsu]

My favorite part of the first game was the end where you fight the Al Mualim after he has cast a spell on all of the townspeople and made you fight clones of all the people you’d assassinated previously in the game. I remember learning about these techniques in high school. And then you fight Al Mualim himself and he makes clones of himself, like eight or nine of them. Had there been ten or eleven clones, I would have been upset. But eight or nine clones is still historically accurate. Then he uses magic to teleport around. That wasn’t in any of my school history books but it must have been real, AC is historically accurate after all.

 

[MMaRsu]

It's the new word for "person I don't like" when you feel that they haven't done bad enough things to go all the way to calling them a nazi (yet).

No? A grifter is someone who is trying to get you riled up, in their little hate engagement bubble so you follow them and get subsequently mad about the latest hate news theyve flocked to.

They are grifters because they earn money by trying to dupe you. They dont care about videogames. They dont care about anything but money.

 

[MonkD]

The irony of wanting to censor a game because the people you despise champion it too. Removing something from the game is definitely censorship, regardless if you agree with Japan that it can be seen as disrespectful.

It's just a game in the end. This game isn't running for office. But I guess Ubisoft will do anything to appease the masses at this point (except making good games).

 

[Bumblebeetuna]

What's this thing with term "grifter" in recent times. Apparently everyone is a grifter now.

In the older days of internets I think these people would have been called attention whores but now they are grifters. And they are worse in a lot of ways because they are just farming rage with clickbait nonsense and in the case of some like Grumz or whatever, outright lying and making shit up.

 

[MonkD]

Bullshit. Remember how they used to market it? Remember how “you can meet and interact with historical figures” was a selling point? Remember how they painstakingly recreated architecture?

Anunnaki bros rise up

 

[balls of snow]

Will mod it to inculde it back in dont worry.

 

[ManaByte]

My favorite part of the first game was the end where you fight the Al Mualim after he has cast a spell on all of the townspeople and made you fight clones of all the people you’d assassinated previously in the game. I remember learning about these techniques in high school. And then you fight Al Mualim himself and he makes clones of himself, like eight or nine of them. Had there been ten or eleven clones, I would have been upset. But eight or nine clones is still historically accurate. Then he uses magic to teleport around. That wasn’t in any of my school history books but it must have been real, AC is historically accurate after all.

No that all really happened.

 

[Sakura]

Kind of lame for the people who want the game that they are censoring it, but I feel like Ubisoft has really bungled the development of this game. Stuff like this should've been discussed and resolved ages ago. Maybe they needed better Japanese consultants/advisors on the team.

 

[RafterXL]

I own and have played every AC game since the first.

Welcome to the club. I also have 200+ hours in each of the last three games, which are the only ones that matter in this context, because that's when the series changed. The animus is a side note, and historical accuracy has been ramped up.

These same kind of statements were made before every single game since Origins.

According to the game's lead producer, Karl Onnée, in an interview with Gamesindustry.biz, the long development time on Assassin's Creed Shadows is all about ensuring the game is as "authentic as possible." Assassin's Creed games have long been considered incredible feats of historical accuracy, so much so they can be considered educational tools in some capacity, and Onnée explains that getting that level of accuracy right takes time.

Which is why the discovery tours exist, which are just versions of the games without the gameplay.

Discovery Tour


So people saying they shouldn't be educational, or authentic, or accurate, are directly at odds with Ubisoft themselves.

My favorite part of the first game was the end where you fight the Al Mualim after he has cast a spell on all of the townspeople and made you fight clones of all the people you’d assassinated previously in the game. I remember learning about these techniques in high school. And then you fight Al Mualim himself and he makes clones of himself, like eight or nine of them. Had there been ten or eleven clones, I would have been upset. But eight or nine clones is still historically accurate. Then he uses magic to teleport around. That wasn’t in any of my school history books but it must have been real, AC is historically accurate after all.

My favorite part is those of you who don't understand the difference between AC pre and post Origins.

 

[genesisblock]

So do these co-called "grifters" have power, or not? One minute people claim they have no relevance and don't matter, the next they're claiming that they have enough power to get games changed. Which is it?

Pretty much this! The fact that nobody is reacting to this point is the real question! It's like they're attempting to avoid the discussion altogether.

 

[Guilty_AI]

Cowards

 

[ManaByte]

The animus is a side note, and historical accuracy has been ramped up.

Valhalla literally became God of War with the DLC.

 

[Novaex]

Another bad decision by Ubisoft. Censorship sucks. Funny that the OP blames the "Grifters"(did we move on from chuds? There seems to be something new every few weeks) as if it wasn't Ubisoft's decision.

 

[MMaRsu]

Welcome to the club. I also have 200+ hours in each of the last three games, which are the only ones that matter in this context, because that's when the series changed. The animus is a side note, and historical accuracy has been ramped up.

These same kind of statements were made before every single game since Origins.



Which is why the discovery tours exist, which are just versions of the games without the gameplay.

Discovery Tour


So people saying they shouldn't be educational, or authentic, or accurate, are directly at odds with Ubisoft themselves.


My favorite part is those of you who don't understand the difference between AC pre and post Origins.

Who cares about what statements Ubisoft makes. Cmon man. The games arent historically accurate and they never have been.

Yes there is some stuff you can learn but that doesnt mean the entire game is historically accurate.

 

[Peroroncino]

We literally slapped the shit out of Pope in AC2 and people are malding about some shrines lmao

 

[Calverz]

Isn’t this a reaction to the concerns the Japanese PM raised in parliament?

 

[RafterXL]

Valhalla literally became God of War with the DLC.

Exactly, in the DLC. They put all the supernatural shit in the DLC, just like Origins and Odyssey, but you'd know that since you've played them all.

Also, conveniently side-stepping quotes from Ubisoft and the discovery tour again, nice.

Who cares about what statements Ubisoft makes. Cmon man. The games arent historically accurate and they never have been.

Yes there is some stuff you can learn but that doesnt mean the entire game is historically accurate.

Yes, who cares what the people who make the product say, some rando on a forum disagrees and we should take his word for it. Do you even hear yourself?

 

[ManaByte]

“Ramped up historical accuracy”

 

[Peroroncino]

My favorite part of the first game was the end where you fight the Al Mualim after he has cast a spell on all of the townspeople and made you fight clones of all the people you’d assassinated previously in the game. I remember learning about these techniques in high school. And then you fight Al Mualim himself and he makes clones of himself, like eight or nine of them. Had there been ten or eleven clones, I would have been upset. But eight or nine clones is still historically accurate. Then he uses magic to teleport around. That wasn’t in any of my school history books but it must have been real, AC is historically accurate after all.

He didn't shout "Kage Bunshin no Jutsu", so the Japanese were offended due to historical inaccuracy, I remember it well.

 

[Grizzled Ghost]

How do you know someone is nonessential?

There's no blood when you kill them.

Damn it's like a modern day Talos. Ubi has accidentally stumbled their way ass-backwards into a genuinely interesting philosophical conundrum.

 

[Filben]

reduce non-essential depictions of bloodshed

So there's essential depictions of bloodshed?

Also, man, sometimes I missed the 90s when in Fallout 1 and 2 you could even kill children because it simulated a world and gave players the ability to attack every single living thing if you wanted to.

What a wild time compared to today.

 

[MMaRsu]

Exactly, in the DLC. They put all the supernatural shit in the DLC, just like Origins and Odyssey, but you'd know that since you've played them all.

Also, conveniently side-stepping quotes from Ubisoft and the discovery tour again, nice.

Yes, who cares what the people who make the product say, some rando on a forum disagrees and we should take his word for it. Do you even hear yourself?

They can make all the statements they want, it doesnt make sense because it's not historically accurate.

Just because it's a business doesn't mean they can't lie or talk bullshit.

Jesus christ.

 

[MMaRsu]

Isn’t this a reaction to the concerns the Japanese PM raised in parliament?

He raised those concerns after grifters kept bringing it to his attention.

Also, Ubisoft shouldnt cave to governments when it comes to fictional places and settings.

 

[Generic]

By removing the ability to attack anything within shrines, and removing blood from npc's.

Assassin’s Creed: Shadows Day One Patch will make certain shrine objects indestructible and eliminate civilian NPC bloodshed - AUTOMATON WEST

Ubisoft has revealed that Assassin’s Creed: Shadows’ day one patch will tone down NPC bloodshed and shrine destruction.

automaton-media.com

Thx you grifters morons for actually making the game worse.

Ubisoft caving to this shit is ultimate retardation though

"Oh no, I can hack a table and shelves in a fictional shrine! Heresy!!"

Mod edit: Next time, use the headline provided by the article instead of editorializing it and providing zero context. Thanks.

Ubisoft self-censoring the game is pointless because the people who are criticizing the game will simply smell blood and criticize it even more.

Ubisoft is stupid.

 

[Bartski]

Congrats guys what an amazing victory protecting Japan from insensitive shrine table breaking, npc shooting gamers.

Censorship is always wrong, except when it censors things we don't like. Jack Thompson would be proud

 

[Paasei]

If they fuck up the gore I'm not getting this game (for a discount). Maybe someone will mod it back in for the PC version.

 

[Guilty_AI]

People who create outrage just to drive up engagement on YouTube or X to earn a payout each month.

Thats not what a grifter is, we've been calling what you described journalism for the past century.

 

[Kiya's Guard]

My hype for playing an accurate samurai mercenary pillaging villages has been killed

 

[Guilty_AI]

Isn’t this a reaction to the concerns the Japanese PM raised in parliament?

Yes, but we must ignore that and instead hate on random youtubers who mostly just repeat what the public is already saying.

 

[RafterXL]

What's this thing with term "grifter" in recent times. Apparently everyone is a grifter now.

It's a stupid term used by stupid people. For every person who drums up negativity to drive growth on Youtube or Twitter, there are a dozen people with their mouths directly tied to the asses of whatever company they are shilling for at that given moment. No one ever calls these people grifters even though that is exactly what they are doing. For some reason when you critize things you're a grifter, but when endlessly suck off the same things you aren't. There is literally no difference, they are both pushing engagement, and it's nothing new.

People are just upset that things they like are getting critized so they label them grifters.

They can make all the statements they want, it doesnt make sense because it's not historically accurate.

Just because it's a business doesn't mean they can't lie or talk bullshit.

Jesus christ.

So, again, we're supposed to ignore their words and listen to yours, because reasons? You see how stupid that sounds, right?

Congrats guys what an amazing victory protecting Japan from insensitive shrine table breaking, npc shooting gamers.

Censorship is always wrong, except when it censors things we don't like. Jack Thompson would be proud

Nah, Censorship is always wrong...period. Patching this stuff after the fact is hilariously stupid and Ubisoft should have seen this coming from a mile away. They have mismanaged this game from day 1 and it has caused them repeated unforced errors.

 

[Boss Mog]

"Made the game worse"...

Newsflash, you couldn't kill civilians in Ghost of Tsushima and most small environmental objects were not destructible and nobody bitched about any of it because the game was good. These things OP is getting worked up about are not important and if it can appease the Japanese people who are upset about this game then it can only be a good thing, especially for sales.

 

[NuclearDiarrhea]

He raised those concerns after grifters kept bringing it to his attention.

I hear the Japanese PM is huge a fan of Asmongold and that random Youtuber with 42 subscribers.

 

[SkyHighTrees]

Shite from fuckers and ubiaoft

 

[Grizzled Ghost]

No? A grifter is someone who is trying to get you riled up, in their little hate engagement bubble so you follow them and get subsequently mad about the latest hate news theyve flocked to.

They are grifters because they earn money by trying to dupe you. They dont care about videogames. They dont care about anything but money.

A grifter gains money directly from the subject of his grift, not some third party.

Listening to whatever flavor of liar you prefer these days doesn't generally cost you anything more than some time.

A better term for them would be charlatans, or evangelists.

 

[Agent_4Seven]

Honestly, in what world we're living if someone has to compromise their creative vision (whatever it is) just one day before launch to please some random motherfucker who got offended by some stupid shit in a piece of entertainment, which is not even real and a work of fiction as all games are?

Oh, man, the cats/dogs are all females and don't have balls! I hate this game and will never buy it cuz my cat/dog is mad!

How can you destroy tables and stuff in the shrine? Inexcusable! They should be indestructible just like in real life! But you can fuck up everything else, we don't care.

And I'm sure that a bunch of more random motherfuckers will complain again for Ubisoft to "fix" the game later via patch, just so that everyone will be pleased and not get offended. What a fuckin' goddamn BS

 

[Edgelord79]

I’m actually kind of starting to feel a tiny bit sorry for Ubisoft now. They can’t seem to do anything right.

 

[Guilty_AI]

A grifter gains money directly from the subject of his grift, not some third party.

Listening to whatever flavor of liar you prefer these days doesn't generally cost you anything more than some time.

A better term for them would be charlatans, or evangelists.

Or journalists

 

[digimaster7]

Is this for the japanese version only or all version?

 

[Ridicululzz]

Does Japan's PM have a Twitter? How did the grifters contact him? Instagram perhaps?

 

[MMaRsu]

Is this for the japanese version only or all version?

All versions.

 

[Guilty_AI]

Does Japan's PM have a Twitter? How did the grifters contact him? Instagram perhaps?

The entire parliament gets together on fridays to watch asmongold's latest playthroughs on youtube