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Am I allowed to say what I think of Cloud's face in the new ff7?

 

[Little Mac]

Hideo Kojima is the Zack Snyder of the video game industry.

Joycons have absolutely terrible ergonomics. I'm paying all this money for a portable device just to permanently dock it to my TV and play games with the $70 pro controller, all because I unfortunately have what some of you would call "adult-sized hands".

I do it because more often than not, Nintendo got that secret sauce that no one else has.

Astrobot seriously challenged the above statement. Hopefully both Sony and Nintendo are noticing.

Console exclusives, timed or otherwise, are super important. Microsoft's strategy, in my eyes, is a huge mistake, which is a shame because the Series X is/was an amazing console.

I love technological remakes of old games. 2DHD fucking every game from my childhood. SOTN, Metroid, Punch-Out!!, Pokemon Red/Green, etc

In terms of fun factor and value, Indies shits on AAA.

 

[vodka-bull]

Elden Ring is just another Dark Souls with horses and a jump button.

 

[San Dan Glokta]

Hideo Kojima is the Zack Snyder of the video game industry.

Joycons have absolutely terrible ergonomics. I'm paying all this money for a portable device just to permanently dock it to my TV and play games with the $70 pro controller, all because I unfortunately have what some of you would call "adult-sized hands".

I do it because more often than not, Nintendo got that secret sauce that no one else has.

Astrobot seriously challenged the above statement. Hopefully both Sony and Nintendo are noticing.

Console exclusives, timed or otherwise, are super important. Microsoft's strategy, in my eyes, is a huge mistake, which is a shame because the Series X is/was an amazing console.

I love technological remakes of old games. 2DHD fucking every game from my childhood. SOTN, Metroid, Pokemon Red/Green, etc

In terms of fun factor and value, Indies shits on AAA.

Dude are you a lost twin or something? I agree with everything here

 

[RafterXL]

Am I allowed to say what I think of Cloud's face in the new ff7?

What do you think about it? Does it line up with the fact he's a terrible character with stupid hair?

 

[Hideous Snake]

I'm curious, what do you mean by calling him a thief? What did he steal and in which game? Demon souls? I've seen bits and pieces of Berserk because of its infamy but haven't actually read/watched it.

I just like to shit on him don’t take it too seriously mate. But yes, half of the monsters/bosses designs are a ripoff from Berserk. When you decide to read/watch it, you’ll understand

 

[Baemono]

Hideo Kojima is the Zack Snyder of the video game industry.

Joycons have absolutely terrible ergonomics. I'm paying all this money for a portable device just to permanently dock it to my TV and play games with the $70 pro controller, all because I unfortunately have what some of you would call "adult-sized hands".

I do it because more often than not, Nintendo got that secret sauce that no one else has.

Astrobot seriously challenged the above statement. Hopefully both Sony and Nintendo are noticing.

Console exclusives, timed or otherwise, are super important. Microsoft's strategy, in my eyes, is a huge mistake, which is a shame because the Series X is/was an amazing console.

I love technological remakes of old games. 2DHD fucking every game from my childhood. SOTN, Metroid, Pokemon Red/Green, etc

In terms of fun factor and value, Indies shits on AAA.

These are hardly hot takes.

 

[Liopleurodon]

Final Fantasy X-2 is a better game than Chrono Trigger.

 

[Hideous Snake]

Hideo Kojima is the Zack Snyder of the video game industry.

Joycons have absolutely terrible ergonomics. I'm paying all this money for a portable device just to permanently dock it to my TV and play games with the $70 pro controller, all because I unfortunately have what some of you would call "adult-sized hands".

I do it because more often than not, Nintendo got that secret sauce that no one else has.

Astrobot seriously challenged the above statement. Hopefully both Sony and Nintendo are noticing.

Console exclusives, timed or otherwise, are super important. Microsoft's strategy, in my eyes, is a huge mistake, which is a shame because the Series X is/was an amazing console.

I love technological remakes of old games. 2DHD fucking every game from my childhood. SOTN, Metroid, Punch-Out!!, Pokemon Red/Green, etc

In terms of fun factor and value, Indies shits on AAA.

I would fight you over the first sentence but I won’t Honestly everything said in your post is spot on and I don’t find it a hot take. Many, including me are agreeing with it

 

[San Dan Glokta]

Final Fantasy X-2 is a better game than Chrono Trigger.

Wow an actual Hot Take.
This thread gives you immunity otherwise we would be fistfighting

 

[San Dan Glokta]

real games died in like 2004 . Now it's formulated slop served for the masses

Hey! I want to call you a combination of Boomer + Doomer, which one of these is your preference?

• Boodoomer
• Dooboomer
• Doomber
• Boonder
• Doodoobooboomermer
• Redoomb
• Boomerdoo

 

[WoJ]

Dude are you a lost twin or something? I agree with everything here

Agree. That was a great post.

 

[Hudo]

Final Fantasy X-2 is a better game than Chrono Trigger.

Holy shit, dude.

 

[MafiaMurderBag]

Killzone 2 still looks great.

I want them to make a PSVR 2 version soooooo fucking bad.

Yeah this is a series in surprised doesn't get remastered or at least ported to PS5.

Japan always made better games than others.

I think they used to. Now it's all just childish uWu Anime slop.

 

[gtabro]

The PS5 menu is trash. The PS3 XMB was the best.

 

[laynelane]

I just like to shit on him don’t take it too seriously mate. But yes, half of the monsters/bosses designs are a ripoff from Berserk. When you decide to read/watch it, you’ll understand

I thought you meant some of the weapons and armour sets. Certainly Guts' sword and the Greatsword are very similar. I can sorta see some of the bosses, but only from the first game.

 

[San Dan Glokta]

Adding politics at the expense of immersion and IP integrity is where the problems lie. It's 'woke' when it's DEI related, it's preaching or lecturing in every situation (politics, for example - propaganda works too), though. Most people don't want that in their entertainment. A developer can include whatever they want, but it's also up to them not to be heavy-handed or disinterested in the audience they're making the product for - lately we've seen too many activist devs who have no interest in appealing to people globally or even locally (which is important as you pointed out). It's more like they want to educate us - it's why there's stuff like a character doing push-ups to punish herself for using the wrong pronoun for another character in Veilguard.

To be frank, I rarely use the word 'woke' because it's too easily misinterpreted nowadays. The definition can vary from person to person so it can make it difficult when attempting to discuss things.

Dude I reread this and just verified, what pathetic shameful behavior, pulling a bharv? More like barf. If someone was offended by what you had said while you didn't know any better, and you were to agree with them, then as a mature adult all you should need to do is either tell them to suck it up or say 'I see, I'll try to keep that in mind' and move on without dwelling on it.

Punishing a fucking grown adult woman by making her do push ups is ludicrous and peak 'Woke' preachiness. Its something a dad would make his 8 year old if he were a bully or mean to his sister or something.

Also: What a load of disgusting Call Her Daddy level cringe dialogue. I avoided this game like a plague and haven't even watched a review since I'd already decided on not buying it. This scene affirms everything I thought about it but x10 worse. What a disaster.

 

[Liopleurodon]

PS6 generation should be all about "We use the word fun."

 

[Rippa]

All FPS games are just copy and paste. Sure all of them have fresh coats of paint. But at their core, they’re all the same horseshit.

All of them have the same re-load animations.

Fucking floating hands/guns on the sides of the screen.

 

[_Blackberry_]

Astrobot (the character) belongs in the bin!

 

[Bernardougf]

PS6 generation should be all about "We use the word fun."

 

[[Tact]]

I don't know if these are necessarily 'hot' takes, but here are some sharper opinions I have.

Generally speaking I think Immersive Sims are a flawed genre, they lose the strengths of the genres they pull from while keeping most of their weaknesses.

The original Deus Ex is mediocre at best. As a game it's carried primarily by its cool factor. It somehow gets away with things that people would absolutely hate in other games.

I feel that some of the most highly regarded games are only praised so widely because 'everyone' played them, so they have enough shared common ground to be talked about by everyone.

AAA games are boring, and the industry is experiencing its current problems, because the target audience is people that don't actually care about video games. In contrast, the reason FROMSOFT seems to have a stranglehold on the industry is they make games for people that actually want to engage with the game they're playing.

Gaming as a sub-culture is dead and it's one of the reasons people are so negative now. Complaining, and also gushing, is some of the only shared common ground people have anymore. Everything is either too broad or too niche to really have any kind of shared common culture.

Nostalgia as a negative is mostly used as a cudgel to win online arguments, and is akin to a coping mechanism used as a pre-emptive kill shot to stop any real discussion.

 

[Grizzled Ghost]

All FPS games are just copy and paste. Sure all of them have fresh coats of paint. But at their core, they’re all the same horseshit.

All of them have the same re-load animations.

Fucking floating hands/guns on the sides of the screen.

I don't agree with what you say, but your text is a different color, so I feel like it must be important.

 

[MafiaMurderBag]

All FPS games are just copy and paste. Sure all of them have fresh coats of paint. But at their core, they’re all the same horseshit.

All of them have the same re-load animations.

Fucking floating hands/guns on the sides of the screen.

Yeah I agree, they're so derivative that once you've played a few, you've played them all.

 

[Toots]

Woah woah woah woah. Imma old hip hop head but even I know Rock is still killing it these days. Like Dirty Honey & Cleopatrick to name two off the top of my dome. Can't believe I got triggerd over rock of all things.

You simply forgot you were in the hot take central thread for a second and let your guard down just a tiny bit

 

[Guilty_AI]

All FPS games are just copy and paste. Sure all of them have fresh coats of paint. But at their core, they’re all the same horseshit.

All of them have the same re-load animations.

Fucking floating hands/guns on the sides of the screen.

Counter point: the FPS DOOM has hands/guns on the center of the screen and no reload animations

 

[ToughestSoul]

popular_game_discussed_to_death turns X today!

who gives a shit

 

[engstra]

Outside of link to the past and Ocarina of time, Zelda games are largely shite.

Mario needs to die. Nintendo has been milking this fuck for far too long.

Pokemon stadium and the original red/blue/yellow etc are the only pokemon games. Rest is fucking trash.

Rogue lites/likes whatever the stupid fucking name is are pure garbage. MOBAs too.

If your game has crafting, outside of pure survival games, odds are the crafting is utterly pointless and you can beat the game without it.

We need more platformers like pandemonium, crash, spyro, rayman etc and less of everything else.

TLOU2 is a better game than TLOU.

Resident evil is probably the best game franchise to ever exist.

Final fantasy is no longer relevant enough to justify pumping out more mainline games.

Hogwarts legacy looked great, but wasn't actually that good. It just got boosted to counter the JK Rowling boycott of the time.

You're forgetting Pokemon Snap! Otherwise you're spot on. Anything past Gen 1 I'm just not interested.

Astro Bot is boring and gets the praise it gets because of member berries and a lack of good 3D platformers.

JRPG is a genre you should grow out of when you become an adult.

Gears 2 and 3 are massively overrated.

Souls combat is stale and boring.

There's definitely a lack of 3D platformers but I mean come on, Astrobot was an absolute joy to play. Best PS5 game out there except for Returnal.

 

[engstra]

Is that a hot take? RDR2 is 100% carried by it's atmosphere and world. It's gameplay is actually kind of shit, just like GTA. If 1 had 2's graphics it wouldn't be a contest.

The fact that they exist just means there are developers who want to make a market, it doesn’t mean there is one. It’s also why they try and link this shit to popular IPs because it would have no chance of making money without it.

And I’ve yet to see a single game that added this kind of stuff that has been better for it or even sold more copies because of it. It’s exclusively the opposite.

Bad writing is always gonna be bad writing, and there is defintiely a lot of examples of that. But there's also bunch of games that handle those topics well and tell interesting stories.

What kind of stuff are they linking to popular IPs exactly? Because a lot of those arguments tend to come down to "there's a female or gay character in this game where there wasn't before", and who gives a shit? Gaming has hit mainstream which means it's catering to a wider demographic, doesn't mean it's "woke".

You know what. I'll grant you that there is a niche fringe population that would celebrate 'Woke' games. The term is diluted and very loaded but here is what I think of when I hear of a game being 'Woke' and what I would find in it:

Hyperfixates on everyone's sexuality, refusal to take mature personal responsibility for own actions, being entitled and hate being productive, thinking that bad manners are a virtue, general sarcastic nihilism and lack of earnestness, very solipsistic morality, pervasive disdain for males.

Don't know about you but most people would find that repulsive.

As I said in comment above, bad writing is bad writing. All of those things can be applied to a lot of older games as well. Take PS2 era Kratos for example

 

[AJUMP23]

Elden Ring is just another Dark Souls with horses and a jump button.

What is hot about that. That is exactly what it is and what people wanted.

My own hot take: I don't think Bloodborne is very good.

 

[Shockwave_Fox]

Halo games are over rated.

 

[RafterXL]

Bad writing is always gonna be bad writing, and there is defintiely a lot of examples of that. But there's also bunch of games that handle those topics well and tell interesting stories.

What kind of stuff are they linking to popular IPs exactly? Because a lot of those arguments tend to come down to "there's a female or gay character in this game where there wasn't before", and who gives a shit? Gaming has hit mainstream which means it's catering to a wider demographic, doesn't mean it's "woke".

As I said in comment above, bad writing is bad writing. All of those things can be applied to a lot of older games as well. Take PS2 era Kratos for example

This reads like someone who has been living on an island with no human contact for the last decade. Are we really going to sit here and pretend that this shit hasn't been inorganically injected into various entertainment IPs? Are we really doing this? And it's not just gaming, it's everywhere. Every movie, book, video game, comic, etc. And you say it's because of going mainstream, which is silly because gaming was mainstream before all of this.

But you're right, it's because our hobbies are mainstream that The Force went lesbian, totally not because a gay writer wanted to make Star Wars the gayest thing ever and pushed this bullshit into one of the biggest IPs in history. Your right, Saints Row wasn't changed to be woke, it was changed because gaming is mainstream and that's what the mainstream wants...lol. Every square jawed hag in western gaming is because "gaming is mainstream" now. Did you see wtf they did to Snow White? My video game lectured me on pronoun usage and makes characters "pull a barv" because gaming is mainstream? They did an all woman Ghost Busters because movies became mainstream? GTFO. This shit is everywhere and not because it suddenly got popular, it's because it was ALREADY popular and makes for a perfect vehicle to inject this stuff into culture without it failing miserably.

Be honest.

 

[San Dan Glokta]

As I said in comment above, bad writing is bad writing. All of those things can be applied to a lot of older games as well. Take PS2 era Kratos for example

Yes bad writing is bad writing, and I never mentioned it in my list about what a 'Woke' game is. I do think that bad writing/design and 'Woke' games go hand in hand when that label sticks but obviously you disagree.

You said OG Kratos is badly writing and I completely disagree; he is superior to the reboots (That misrepresented him) and is an excellently written character. He is not a good person, but he is very compelling and within the confines of in-universe verisimilitude everything he did was justifiable in the 6 games.

I'm curious, what mainstream characters do you think are really well written that would be either 'woke' or not? I want to see if we have any common ground. They can be from different media, jrpgs whatever.

 

[QLQ]

PC Gaming (true PC gaming, or the peasant near-console experience kind) is for suckers with too much money to burn, or just plain suckers

 

[Roman Empire]

Kids should be prohibited to play games unless they get to verify their accounts with their parents Id every session.

 

[San Dan Glokta]

Kids should be prohibited to play games unless they get to verify their accounts with their parents Id every session.

I agree with you not only about this but smart electronics in general, but hundreds of millions of lazy parents will come at you with pitchforks and greek fire if you tried to implement it lol

 

[Roman Empire]

I agree with you not only about this but smart electronics in general, but hundreds of millions of lazy parents will come at you with pitchforks and greek fire if you tried to implement it lol

Yes, it is a very hot take that won't sit well with most even if it makes sense.

 

[engstra]

Yes bad writing is bad writing, and I never mentioned it in my list about what a 'Woke' game is. I do think that bad writing/design and 'Woke' games go hand in hand when that label sticks but obviously you disagree.

You said OG Kratos is badly writing and I completely disagree; he is superior to the reboots (That misrepresented him) and is an excellently written character. He is not a good person, but he is very compelling and within the confines of in-universe verisimilitude everything he did was justifiable in the 6 games.

I'm curious, what mainstream characters do you think are really well written that would be either 'woke' or not? I want to see if we have any common ground. They can be from different media, jrpgs whatever.

I mean personally don't really believe that anything is 'woke' to begin with so I would disagree with your definition of it yea.

Don't get me wrong I really like Kratos as a character but if applying your definition I do think a lot of the boxes tick. Doesn't detract from him being a compelling character to play. So as long as the character is well-written and story is interesting, who cares if they are gay, female etc etc. Prime example of that is Life is Strange. Most of my favortite games, like Ueda games, rely on environmental storytelling or are platformers with animal mascots that don't speak but in terms of more traditionally written characters Joel and Nathan Drake are good examples I guess?

 

[NeonDelta]

Hollow knight is overrated

 

[San Dan Glokta]

First you said:

. "Woke" is actually good for gaming. All I see it as is an opportunity for new stories and perspectives to be told, where there previously wasn't a market for them.
People keep on complaining that gaming has gone stale. If that's the case, why get into an uproar when developers are trying to do something new?

2. Consoles are the superior way of playing for the simple reason of that it's easily accessible and plug and play.

3. Uncharted 3 is the best Uncharted game.

4. RPG games should only be played once. Since the game allows you to play and make the choices you would do, why would I play the good, neutral, bad storylines?

5. People who play GTA to just go on killing sprees and cause mayhem are psychopaths.

Then you said:

The fact that they exist means there is space and a market for them. Developers should make the games and stories they feel passionate about, this will lead to the best end product.

Now you say:

I mean personally don't really believe that anything is 'woke' to begin with so I would disagree with your definition of it yea.

Don't get me wrong I really like Kratos as a character but if applying your definition I do think a lot of the boxes tick. Doesn't detract from him being a compelling character to play. So as long as the character is well-written and story is interesting, who cares if they are gay, female etc etc. Prime example of that is Life is Strange. Most of my favortite games, like Ueda games, rely on environmental storytelling or are platformers with animal mascots that don't speak but in terms of more traditionally written characters Joel and Nathan Drake are good examples I guess?

Bro please stay consistent. It seems like you yourself don't know what you're going on about. And giving nebulous answers to direct questions and statements isn't helping either.

 

[engstra]

First you said:



Then you said:



Now you say:

Bro please stay consistent. It seems like you yourself don't know what you're going on about. And giving nebulous answers to direct questions and statements isn't helping either.

Come on now, just because I would argue there's no such thing as woke doesn't mean others share that viewpoint which is why I used the term.

 

[San Dan Glokta]

Come on now, just because I would argue there's no such thing as woke doesn't mean others share that viewpoint which is why I used the term.

You strongly argued for "woke" games' favor without even defining them, you have yet to do so. Others and myself did define it and you dismissed it. This is why I said I don't think you know what you're arguing for or against when you say "Woke". You only cited Life is Strange as an example and didn't explain why, or which part.

 

[Walliwallipaloo]

Resident Evil 4 represented the "goofy-fication" of Capcom, and that game and every RE thereafter is a betrayal of the series. RE4 was the beginning of the end.

 

[vodka-bull]

What is hot about that. That is exactly what it is and what people wanted.

My own hot take: I don't think Bloodborne is very good.

You think so? All I heard it‘s the greatest thing mankind ever discovered since the invention of the wheel. People say it‘s the GOAT of all GOATs whereas I get sleepy playing the same old Dark Souls shit with the same old castles, the same old enemies and the same old lonely depressed violine soundtrack…

 

[Great Auk]

I never understood GTA's appeal. I know I'm in the minority haha

 

[laynelane]

I never understood GTA's appeal. I know I'm in the minority haha

I get the appeal, but it doesn't appeal to me - if that makes sense. People get to run around causing mayhem in both single-player and multiplayer. Some find it cathartic, relaxing, and/or just plain fun. I had a co-worker who wound down after every shift with a bit of GTA5 online. I, on the other hand, have no interest in and have never played a GTA game. I figure different strokes and all that.

 

[Walliwallipaloo]

I get the appeal, but it doesn't appeal to me - if that makes sense. People get to run around causing mayhem in both single-player and multiplayer. Some find it cathartic, relaxing, and/or just plain fun. I had a co-worker who wound down after every shift with a bit of GTA5 online. I, on the other hand, have no interest in and have never played a GTA game. I figure different strokes and all that.

I find GTA to be mean-spirited, bitter, and gross - and I guess that sums up Rockstar games in a nutshell.

There's a hot take: when it comes to GTA, crazy lawyer dude (Jack Thompson) was right. GTA is bad for society.

 

[Liopleurodon]

I don't hate, nor do I have absolutely anything against any person, or studio, website, company, etc. related to gaming.

 

[yansolo]

mine is about the hobby in general, people are way to deep into it, with all the hate and drama, twitter/x posts and rants full on youtube videos and this and that. when i was a bit younger if you didnt like something you just didnt play it or vice versa if you did like it, and you just went on about your day.

 

[San Dan Glokta]

Resident Evil 4 represented the "goofy-fication" of Capcom, and that game and every RE thereafter is a betrayal of the series. RE4 was the beginning of the end.

I really like RE4, both old and remake,, but this isn't really a hot take. Many people seem to share this take even though I don't agree.