What are your *Actual* hot takes regarding video games? I mean ACTUAL stuff that would get people riled up?
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Yoboman
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Barely above PS2 graphics, running the same calendar system gameplay across 20+ years, uneven pacing, load screens everywhere, everything feels fully scripted through every moment you play through, with only the disguise of choices, zero dynamic elements in the games (even as basic as day night, weather), 90% of dialogue having no voice acting
Game Freak gets torn to shreds for their unchanging formula and dated graphics but nobody says a thing about Atlus
And no I'm not saying they are bad games, they just don't get critiqued the way other games do
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San Dan Glokta
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Well I'm an avid enjoyer of Atlus games. Your criticism are valid up till you realize their budgets are a fraction of what a normal AAA game from a western developer would cost like. Also their games are all heavily stylized, they go for kind off a timeless anime look instead of realistic 3D rendering.
I agree that pretty all games in each IP they own are very iterative, but hey most people aren't complaining so...
Good hot take I suppose
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San Dan Glokta
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I've always been saying that BoTW as basically MGS5: TPP but Nintendo/Anime.
Both their core fun mechanics are that they are very extensive sandboxes to creatively make your own fun.
Not my type of game.
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gtabro
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Red Dead Redemption 1 is leagues better than 2 because of 0 invisible walls during the missions, walk-only restrictions (not even light run), also because Arthur controls like a sack of potatoes, and because RDR2’s landscape despite being obviously better-looking it felt like GTA in the prairie/mountains rather than a classic spaghetti western which the aesthetic of RDR1 allowed it to. Also RDR 2 people think the song moment was unique and “so wow” but it was literally copied from 1 when you go to Mexico for the first time.
laynelane
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My first Atlus game was SMT Nocturne back on the PS2. Considering how niche their games have been for so long, it's strange to see them become more well-known now. So much that they're even the subject of hot takes lol.
Relating to that, though, is my own hot take - graphics are one of the least important elements in a game for me. They're way behind game play, narration, characters, and music. I'm playing Persona 4 Golden right now and the game looks and plays great.
Gorgon
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Your opinion is duly noted, sir.
Hawk The Slayer
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Far Cry Blood Dragon is the best Ubisoft game and the only one I like from that company.
IDKFA
I am Become Bilbo Baggins
Pokemon X&Y were the last GREAT Pokemon games.
Pokemon legends Arceus, is without a doubt, the worst Pokemon game ever made. It's soulless, boring and empty. If you like catching Pokemon then it's perfect for you. Anything else and it's total tosh. Could be a contender for the most boring game I've played on the Swtich.
Pokemon legends Arceus, is without a doubt, the worst Pokemon game ever made. It's soulless, boring and empty. If you like catching Pokemon then it's perfect for you. Anything else and it's total tosh. Could be a contender for the most boring game I've played on the Swtich.
Idleyes
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San Dan Glokta
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I would say you have a bad take but I could never speak ill against the Ambassador of Centauri <3
Hollowpoint5557
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Super Metroid is my all-time favorite game and the best game I have ever played... and it's also the only good Metroid game outside of Prime 1. I hate the story, I hate the controls, I hate the graphics and colors of any and all other Metroid games. Super had 30 seconds of story and then BAM you are unleashed into an alien world to explore with no hand holding or explaining. Sink or swim. The graphics, the music, the encounters, the exploration are just *chefs kiss* 
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.1. "Woke" is actually good for gaming. All I see it as is an opportunity for new stories and perspectives to be told, where there previously wasn't a market for them.
People keep on complaining that gaming has gone stale. If that's the case, why get into an uproar when developers are trying to do something new?
2. Consoles are the superior way of playing for the simple reason of that it's easily accessible and plug and play.
3. Uncharted 3 is the best Uncharted game.
4. RPG games should only be played once. Since the game allows you to play and make the choices you would do, why would I play the good, neutral, bad storylines?
5. People who play GTA to just go on killing sprees and cause mayhem are psychopaths.
People keep on complaining that gaming has gone stale. If that's the case, why get into an uproar when developers are trying to do something new?
2. Consoles are the superior way of playing for the simple reason of that it's easily accessible and plug and play.
3. Uncharted 3 is the best Uncharted game.
4. RPG games should only be played once. Since the game allows you to play and make the choices you would do, why would I play the good, neutral, bad storylines?
5. People who play GTA to just go on killing sprees and cause mayhem are psychopaths.
ptuck874
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dude, same here, I even played some of the other fry cry games, but blood dragon was the most fun
Blank Space Invader
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The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild and The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom are rubbish. They are not even good video games, let alone the masterpieces of the Zelda franchise that the fanboys make them out to be. Nintendo shat out gameplay mechanics that other games had done a decade before but Nintendo fanboys wouldn't know that because they've been stuck playing boring Mario and Kirby spinoffs. Cooking, tablet telekinesis, climbing stamina, are all derivative nonsense and gimmicks shoehorned in to "innovate" when really Zelda should have been left as is. Ocarina of Time and Link to the Past are still the pinnacle of Zelda, and future Zelda games should emulate them in their tone, design, gameplay, and atmosphere. Zelda is dead to me until Nintendo does that.
CitizenKratos
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VR is vastly more innovative and fun than regular gaming this gen.
San Dan Glokta
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I'm seeing more and more people are getting soured on the open world Zelda games. 3 years ago if someone said stuff like this they would've had to go into protective custody. Also maybe I'm a bit aloof but it seems like to me that Tears of the kingdom came out without much fanfare? I know as a Nintendo 1st party game its obviously successful but I'm wondering if Nintendo is sensing fan fatigue for this formula?
Halo2redvsblue
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Sony makes overrated games.
Halo2redvsblue
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For me BotW and TotK are good games, they don't have any replay value. I finish them, will probably never play them again from the Beginning.
Grizzled Ghost
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What are some of your favorites?
San Dan Glokta
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I read VR porn is a game changer but I'm too scared to verify that lest I lose my flimsy anchor to reality.
CitizenKratos
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The two REs; Villiage and 4 remake, Red Matter 2, No Man’s Sky, Gran Turismo 7, Hubris, Metro.
Idleyes
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Idleyes
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Woah woah woah woah. Imma old hip hop head but even I know Rock is still killing it these days. Like Dirty Honey & Cleopatrick to name two off the top of my dome. Can't believe I got triggerd over rock of all things.
Brigandier
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Rockstar games are disgustingly over rated.
San Dan Glokta
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FTFY?
Durin
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- Blizzard and Bioware are unrecoverable brands producing weaker games than Sega.
- Console gaming isn't social anymore outside Nintendo because they're portable and still make local multiplayer-centric games. Xbox/Playstation online lobbies are silence-filled bore fests, haven't innovated jack since 360 era.
- The only Rockstar game I kinda like is Bully, and they made a shit Max Payne game.
- Half the time console owners respond to a bad PC port with "my version run great/fine" is usually just someone with worse standards, and your version kinda sucks too.
- 90% chance people who buy higher priced versions of games for a few days early access, also own a cuck chair.
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Emedan
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There's still no market for them and it's ruining game devs for wasting money on games no one wants to play.
Don't know if hot take really but Sonic is just straight up trash.
Liopleurodon
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Death Stranding is Metal Gear with mental illness.
XXL
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- 99.9% of indie games are trash.
- FFR and FF Rebirth are better than the original. People are blinded by Nostalgia.
- Gamers on forums say they want different types of experiences and new IPs, but they really don't. They just want sequels...and when they get new innovative and fresh expierences (like Prey, TLG) they don't buy them.
- Alot of the best games of this generation are PSVR 2 games.
- Baldur's Gate 3 is actually underrated.
- Demons Soul Remake is better than the original.
- Elden Ring is good, but overrated, Bloodborne is a better game.
- Horizon Zero Dawn has one of the best stories ever told in gaming.
- The new Zelda games are overrated and kind of boring to play.
- Astro Bot Rescue Mission is better than Astro Bot and are both better than every Mario game aside from (maybe) the Galaxy Series. Rescue Mission is the best platformer ever made.
- This generation is massively underrated.
- Half Life Alyx is awesome, but there are better VR games out there. Half Life 2 in VR is just as good or better.
- FFR and FF Rebirth are better than the original. People are blinded by Nostalgia.
- Gamers on forums say they want different types of experiences and new IPs, but they really don't. They just want sequels...and when they get new innovative and fresh expierences (like Prey, TLG) they don't buy them.
- Alot of the best games of this generation are PSVR 2 games.
- Baldur's Gate 3 is actually underrated.
- Demons Soul Remake is better than the original.
- Elden Ring is good, but overrated, Bloodborne is a better game.
- Horizon Zero Dawn has one of the best stories ever told in gaming.
- The new Zelda games are overrated and kind of boring to play.
- Astro Bot Rescue Mission is better than Astro Bot and are both better than every Mario game aside from (maybe) the Galaxy Series. Rescue Mission is the best platformer ever made.
- This generation is massively underrated.
- Half Life Alyx is awesome, but there are better VR games out there. Half Life 2 in VR is just as good or better.
Walliwallipaloo
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Persona 4 is the only good Persona game. It was lightning in a bottle in terms of mood, atmosphere, and overall character. It absolutely nailed it, and there's no chance they'll be able to do anything like it ever again. Persona 3 is agonizingly mid, and Persona 5 - while better than 3 by nearly every metric - completely deflates by the end.
My wife says that Persona 2 is actually pretty good, and one day I guess I'll give it a shot.
Metal Gear Solid is the same deal. The first one was a such a groundbreaking, definitive, and visionary experience that many of us who loved it became Kojima fans hoping the delight of it could be recaptured in a sequel. And those people... they are coping. I should know. I've just run out of tears to shed.
MGS succeeded because it was another example of a lightning-in-a-bottle creative collaboration, not because Hideo Kojima is some sort of genius. Everything he's done since has been one bizarre disappointment after another. MGS 2 is a belly-flop of weirdness, and MGS 3 is stupid condensed in playable form. MGS 5 shocked me with how little game could be delivered with such a tremendous budget, and actually insulted me with its profound ignorance. Yet people like me keep propping up Hideo Kojima, pretending that none of that is true, and hoping that one day, just one day, we'll get another experience like that one-of-a-kind masterpiece we loved from our increasingly-distant childhood.
I joined just to post this and cry about it. Um, did I say "cry?" Rant, I mean. I'm not sad! I'm mad!
*sniffle*
My wife says that Persona 2 is actually pretty good, and one day I guess I'll give it a shot.
Metal Gear Solid is the same deal. The first one was a such a groundbreaking, definitive, and visionary experience that many of us who loved it became Kojima fans hoping the delight of it could be recaptured in a sequel. And those people... they are coping. I should know. I've just run out of tears to shed.
MGS succeeded because it was another example of a lightning-in-a-bottle creative collaboration, not because Hideo Kojima is some sort of genius. Everything he's done since has been one bizarre disappointment after another. MGS 2 is a belly-flop of weirdness, and MGS 3 is stupid condensed in playable form. MGS 5 shocked me with how little game could be delivered with such a tremendous budget, and actually insulted me with its profound ignorance. Yet people like me keep propping up Hideo Kojima, pretending that none of that is true, and hoping that one day, just one day, we'll get another experience like that one-of-a-kind masterpiece we loved from our increasingly-distant childhood.
I joined just to post this and cry about it. Um, did I say "cry?" Rant, I mean. I'm not sad! I'm mad!
*sniffle*
The fact that they exist means there is space and a market for them. Developers should make the games and stories they feel passionate about, this will lead to the best end product.
San Dan Glokta
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You know what. I'll grant you that there is a niche fringe population that would celebrate 'Woke' games. The term is diluted and very loaded but here is what I think of when I hear of a game being 'Woke' and what I would find in it:
Hyperfixates on everyone's sexuality, refusal to take mature personal responsibility for own actions, being entitled and hate being productive, thinking that bad manners are a virtue, general sarcastic nihilism and lack of earnestness, very solipsistic morality, pervasive disdain for males.
Don't know about you but most people would find that repulsive.
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Hollywood Hitman
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VR is better than people are giving it credit for imo
BotWs 1 and 2 are some of the worst zelda games to date.
Point and click adventure games can still be some of the best gaming
Helldivers 2 is the most repetitive mediocre crap ever
Battlefield 2042 is a good game now
BotWs 1 and 2 are some of the worst zelda games to date.
Point and click adventure games can still be some of the best gaming
Helldivers 2 is the most repetitive mediocre crap ever
Battlefield 2042 is a good game now
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RafterXL
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Is that a hot take? RDR2 is 100% carried by it's atmosphere and world. It's gameplay is actually kind of shit, just like GTA. If 1 had 2's graphics it wouldn't be a contest.
The fact that they exist just means there are developers who want to make a market, it doesn’t mean there is one. It’s also why they try and link this shit to popular IPs because it would have no chance of making money without it.
And I’ve yet to see a single game that added this kind of stuff that has been better for it or even sold more copies because of it. It’s exclusively the opposite.
Major Insano
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Fallout 4 dumps all over New Vegas in nearly every way.
San Dan Glokta
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Nooo bro there are many coop games where teamwork is paramount in multiplayer, games like GTFO, phasmophobia, Destiny Raids etc. They wouldn't work in a couch coop setting but they are amazing.
Brigandier
Gold Member
Extremely underrated game I loved it. NV was supposedly better than F3 but no it wasn't at all.
San Dan Glokta
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Both of you showed up and chose violence xD
Its a good thing this a hot takes thread for your safety's sake.
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Liopleurodon
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HD-2D is both charming and disappointing.
Hudo
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This is basically the feeling I had while playing through Dragon Quest III HD-2D Remake. On one hand, it's pretty cool what they did with it. On the other hand, I wish they'd done more.
LordCBH
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BOTW also benefitted from having basically nothing else to play on the switch at release. Mario Kart was two months later, and the next big single player title (Mario Odyssey, which I still think is fantastic) wasn’t until the fall.
laynelane
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Great list. The hyper fixating on sexuality is something I've noticed with certain people in real life too. It's off-putting there and in games too.
I would add the extremely obvious injection of the developer's politics/world view at the expense of immersion and IP integrity - it's why we got the "so, I'm non-binary" scene in Veilguard, for example. There's a lot of games that simply serve as the developer's vanity project and no one is interested in that besides their like-minded colleagues, friends, and followers on social media.
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Liopleurodon
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HD-2D is a nice evolution of old 2D games, but deep down, at least when it comes to remakes of 2D old school JRPGs, I kinda expect graphics at least on the level of BotW, Genshin Impact, or Visions of Mana, even if it means reimagining the whole thing.