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[BowieZ]

Am I wrong for thinking that Australia is probably more or less full of as many ignorant racist people as almost every other country on Earth?

And that perhaps there is an "overreporting" (statistically, I mean) of racially tinged incidents? Mostly for the following four reasons:

(a) a massive and (relatively) free news media machine that picks up on any of these sorts of incidents (whereas in other countries the myriad racist and even violent attacks are probably simply not reported), and;

(b) as Australia is so much a multicultural nation (when you think about it, only a few are this diverse), like in America or anywhere with as many pockets of diversity, when those pockets merge it creates a culture shift, to which the less ignorant among us don't adjust so instinctively well;

(c) points one and two sort of merge here -- because Australia is firstly a popular tourist and exchange destination and also because it has a major online presence, there can be an unfair degree of anecdotal evidence: for example, someone coming from a non-diverse but well educated town in US witnesses first hand someone making a 'joke' about say "Asians taking over the country", they will (duly) be shocked and will report this on GAF or Twitter etc and then of course this will be picked up in the media etc etc... but in reality I'm not sure that this problem is inherent to Australians;

(d) and tying with the racial joke thing, and I may get called out on this, so be it, but I think there could be a mistaken conflation of racism with racial stereotyping, and also between serious deeply held racial superiority and mere black humour, something that is indigenous to Australian culture. I wonder how many reports of racism are exaggerated because of a misunderstood sense of dry or black humour? I'm sure many are true reports, of course (such as the Goodes ape/zoo thing, of something that is personal and hurtful, not intended as a joke), and some genuinely think, for example, Asians really are overtaking Australia, but (and this is anecdotal admittedly) I encounter quite a lot of dry humour during the day and with friends (of mixed races), and everyone makes fun of everyone and everything, including themselves. All of my friends I'm sure are anti-racist (many are activist greens supporters, to use the "I have friends" argument), but engage in gentle stereotype-based ribbing now and then. Is this sense of humour based on deep-seated racist superiority issues?

By the way, I'm a white Dutch-Welsh first generation Australian, so as with any white person's remarks on racism, take the above with a massive grain of salt.

 

[PhantomZone]

Just read that article posted below as to why this booing of Goodes is different than what MJ copped at edgbaston. It's more succinctly and clear put than I could ever say it, and explains why this booing is not just "part of sport".

http://www.businessinsider.com.au/a...rsy-and-australias-problem-with-racism-2015-7

So the article listed: Hayden Ballantyne, Joel Selwood, Brent Harvey, Jack Riewoldt, Luke Hodge, Dustin Martin... with the exception of Hodgey (because of you know... reasons) I boo those other players just as hard as I boo Goodes. I don't discriminate.

I'm allowed to keep booing as I have booed before, if Goodes does a high hit, if Goodes attempts a dodgy free kick, if Goodes kicks for goal I'll be booing him.

Game, set and match

 

[Fusebox]

Oh no, don't bring hitter into this debate, what is that principle called where the longer an argument goes on for, the more likely the nazis or hitter is brought into it? Haha

Markot's law.

http://www.businessinsider.com.au/a...rsy-and-australias-problem-with-racism-2015-7

One thing I’ve learned about my adopted home is that its problem with racism is similar in many ways to America’s problem with guns and racism.

Apples and oranges. American gun culture isn't anything like racism. We don't have racist swap meets where we sell racist stuff to people without racism licenses. People don't have tactical racist clothing and go to the racist range to be racists. It may be ingrained into some parts of Australias culture like a shitstain but we don't publically celebrate it and wank off over it like American gun nuts.

 

[Yagharek]

It's a part of sport, Mitchell Johnson got booed over night and throughout the last test in England. And even some of the taunts he has had to deal with over there.... and also in his own backyard, he's still kicking along nicely.

Context, how does it work?

 

[PhantomZone]

Yep, booing someone of the opposition for being a grubby player is racist. Got it!

Those who support the team and wear his name on their jersey must also be racist for being ashamed of someone who has (or had) so much respect on and off the field but resorts to 'flopping' to get free kicks.

Grow up! He's booed because he deserves it, not because of his skin colour. Fans are growing tired of him cheating the game, taunting fans and not being able to handle the retaliation.

There are some 160 or so other Aboriginal athletes in the AFL and they don't get booed. How does that work?

There are quite a lot of Aboriginal/Indigenous athletes in the NRL and they don't get booed. How does that work?

Shots fired!!

Context, how does it work?

Until booing is banned from sport people will boo. You can't decide when or when it's not appropriate or who you can or cannot boo.

I will also boo Goodes on his lap of honour on grand final day.... why ? to spite everyone else AND BECAUSE I CAN

 

[danm999]

It seems to keep coming back to the fallacy that since booing isn't an inherently racist act, the act of booing cannot be used in a campaign to racially deride someone:

 

[chicko1983]

Am I wrong for thinking that Australia is probably more or less full of as many ignorant racist people as almost every other country on Earth?

And that perhaps there is an "overreporting" (statistically, I mean) of racially tinged incidents? Mostly for the following four reasons:

(a) a massive and (relatively) free news media machine that picks up on any of these sorts of incidents (whereas in other countries the myriad racist and even violent attacks are probably simply not reported), and;

(b) as Australia is so much a multicultural nation (when you think about it, only a few are this diverse), like in America or anywhere with as many pockets of diversity, when those pockets merge it creates a culture shift, to which the less ignorant among us don't adjust so instinctively well;

(c) points one and two sort of merge here -- because Australia is firstly a popular tourist and exchange destination and also because it has a major online presence, there can be an unfair degree of anecdotal evidence: for example, someone coming from a non-diverse but well educated town in US witnesses first hand someone making a 'joke' about say "Asians taking over the country", they will (duly) be shocked and will report this on GAF or Twitter etc and then of course this will be picked up in the media etc etc... but in reality I'm not sure that this problem is inherent to Australians;

(d) and tying with the racial joke thing, and I may get called out on this, so be it, but I think there could be a mistaken conflation of racism with racial stereotyping, and also between serious deeply held racial superiority and mere black humour, something that is indigenous to Australian culture. I wonder how many reports of racism are exaggerated because of a misunderstood sense of dry or black humour? I'm sure many are true reports, of course (such as the Goodes ape/zoo thing, of something that is personal and hurtful, not intended as a joke), and some genuinely think, for example, Asians really are overtaking Australia, but (and this is anecdotal admittedly) I encounter quite a lot of dry humour during the day and with friends (of mixed races), and everyone makes fun of everyone and everything, including themselves. All of my friends I'm sure are anti-racist (many are activist greens supporters, to use the "I have friends" argument), but engage in gentle stereotype-based ribbing now and then. Is this sense of humour based on deep-seated racist superiority issues?

By the way, I'm a white Dutch-Welsh first generation Australian, so as with any white person's remarks on racism, take the above with a massive grain of salt.

There is some truth within all of these points.

However, I wish and want Australia to move away from that "we're Aussie and paying out stereotypes is ok if done in joke form" type of mindset. I grew up thinking that reasoning was acceptable as I grew up in an all white, well off family with long time Australian heritage, went to school and I was the only dark skinned person there, played sport where I was the only dark skinned person and really only started mixing with other cultures when I got to university. Until university, I saw myself as white Australian.

However in the last 15 or so years, I've come to realise how just a "little bit" of racism, is as bad as "full blown" racism for the victim.

It may have been acceptable for you in the past, But I hope you don't engage in this type of "humour" going forward, because yes, it is deep-seated in racist superiority issues.

 

[chicko1983]

It seems to keep coming back to the fallacy that since booing isn't an inherently racist act, the act of booing cannot be used in a campaign to racially deride someone:

Yep, that is exactly what it is happening here. That's it, I'm out.

 

[Jintor]

Until booing is banned from sport people will boo. You can't decide when or when it's not appropriate or who you can or cannot boo.

I will also boo Goodes on his lap of honour on grand final day.... why ? to spite everyone else AND BECAUSE I CAN

I accept that you might not be a deliberate racist, but I guess you're content to just be something else instead, man.

You can't stop me insulting people at random on street corners, man! It's not illegal! I DO WHAT I WANT

 

[Fredescu]

Do I care what some people on a forum think ?

Some people on a forum, both sides of politics, mainstream media. Vs you and convicted racist Andrew Bolt.

 

[dejay]

Reasons why people are booing at Goodes:

1 - They're racist fucks and are using a sporting crowd as a shield
2 - They think Goodes is a legitimate target based on things other than his race
3 - They're enjoying the pantomime of sports audience participation and do it when they hear others do it.

I don't know what percentage (1) is, I suspect anywhere between 20%-70%. I do think they are the ones who have perpetuated it for a long time though. I think (2) would have given up long ago and (3) do it every time they hear someone else do it.

Saying that, Richard Hadlee is a prime example of a white person who suffered the ire of Australian crowds for close to a decade. Being booed is, I would suggest, nicer than thousands of people calling you a wanker.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BksynLxr79o

 

[Warchild]

Reasons why people are booing at Goodes:

1 - They're racist fucks and are using a sporting crowd as a shield
2 - They think Goodes is a legitimate target based on things other than his race
3 - They're enjoying the pantomime of sports audience participation and do it when they hear others do it.

I don't know what percentage (1) is, I suspect anywhere between 20%-70%. I do think they are the ones who have perpetuated it for a long time though. I think (2) would have given up long ago and (3) do it every time they hear someone else do it.

Saying that, Richard Hadlee is a prime example of a white person who suffered the ire of Australian crowds for close to a decade. Being booed is, I would suggest, nicer than thousands of people calling you a wanker.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BksynLxr79o

The people saying that the booing has a racist agenda behind it won't accept that it might be a 20% slice, they're leaning more towards the 99% slice. They're basically saying that anybody who boo's Goodes is a racist.

It's complete rubbish and anybody who dares question it is painted in the same "racist" brush.

No sweat; in a few weeks when the media moves on to the next big story and Sydney gets knocked out in the first 1-2 weeks of the finals, we'll be done with this highjacking of the actual game.

 

[Fredescu]

The whole 'nut grabbing' thing is such a perfect example of racism.

Watch a video of that supposed 'incident' it's completely laughable. Everyone saw it and was like "oh yeah there's actually nothing going on there at all". But the still image gets passed around the Internet and people believe Goodes is doing something untoward without knowing any of the facts.

People want to hate Goodes for who he is, and they'll exaggerate any minor incident to give them what they believe is just cause.

As someone that doesn't watch AFL, it's amazing to see example after example of bad sportsmanship that people complain about get shot down one by one.

People still think this is about out and out "gotcha" style racism where an outburst might prove that you had overt hatred in your heart all along. This isn't about that. This is about different standards of judgement you apply to different people without even realising your doing so. Standards you've picked up from the world you live in and apply them with no real overt hatred. The good news is, there's nothing wrong with admitting this. It's the first step in a long process of self examination. I still struggle with it too, and I think it ends up with just being less judgemental overall, which is no bad thing really.

 

[PhantomZone]

Some people on a forum, both sides of politics, mainstream media. Vs you and Andrew Bolt.

I love the way Andrew Bolt supports the Liberals, nice guy!

 

[Fredescu]

I'm not racist but that convicted racist is a nice guy.

 

[danm999]

Of all the praise I've heard supporters heap on Bolt, "nice" has never been amongst them.

 

[PhantomZone]

I'm not racist but that convicted racist is a nice guy.

Of all the praise I've heard supporters heap on Bolt, "nice" has never been amongst them.

I said it to deliberately get a reaction from you guys :-D

Couldn't care less about what Bolt or Jones have to say.

At the end of the day Goodes is a sook and needs to harden up. The only time the crowd was out of hand was last week in Western Australia and in case you didn't know they take things to the extreme when it comes to cheering and booing (as seen with Jobe Watson, as well as every other week where the complain about umpiring decisions). In previous rounds yes Goodes was booed, but not to the same level as last week. You're looking at 10-20% of the attended crowd in which tv audio was able to pick it up.

Everyone needs to understand that not every football personality is likeable, it's not about skin colour. If it was, then why the hell are other indigenous players not targeted with boos or racial slurs ?

Mitchell was booed last night I guess the crowd is racist there
The umpires were also booed last night I guess the crowd was being racist towards them too.

 

[Yagharek]

I said it to deliberately get a reaction from you guys :-D

Couldn't care less about what Bolt or Jones have to say.

At the end of the day Goodes is a sook and needs to harden up. The only time the crowd was out of hand was last week in Western Australia and in case you didn't know they take things to the extreme when it comes to cheering and booing (as seen with Jobe Watson, as well as every other week where the complain about umpiring decisions). In previous rounds yes Goodes was booed, but not to the same level as last week. You're looking at 10-20% of the attended crowd in which tv audio was able to pick it up.

Everyone needs to understand that not every football personality is likeable, it's not about skin colour. If it was, then why the hell are other indigenous players not targeted with boos or racial slurs ?

Mitchell was booed last night I guess the crowd is racist there
The umpires were also booed last night I guess the crowd was being racist towards them too.

You're being deliberately obtuse and just trolling now.

 

[TheFirstOrder]

The people saying that the booing has a racist agenda behind it won't accept that it might be a 20% slice, they're leaning more towards the 99% slice. They're basically saying that anybody who boo's Goodes is a racist.

Woah... wait a second.

If a 20% slice of the booing is racial, that's a serious problem and the people claiming there's a racial agenda are completely justified. I don't understand how you can play down 20% as being some tiny handful.

Here's the thing: a section of AFL crowds is engaging in racial abuse, and another significant portion is just joining in for the sake of it -- guess what? They're also complicit in the racial abuse of Goodes. No -- they aren't all racists, but the crap they're supporting is.

 

[faridmon]

Wow, reading the thread, it just shows how naive people can be towards racism and all, and the worst thing about it is that he is not even black.
Australia, I think you have a long way to go!

 

[Arksy]

Wow, reading the thread, it just shows how naive people can be towards racism and all, and the worst thing about it is that he is not even black.
Australia, I think you have a long way to go!

He's Aboriginal. They have fairly wide ranging skin colours because they're not actually a single ethnic group but in Australia Aboriginal people are often referred to as black.

 

[faridmon]

He's Aboriginal. They have fairly wide ranging skin colours because they're not actually a single ethnic group but in Australia Aboriginal people are often referred to as black.

oh, didn't know that. What are the percentage of those in the darker skin colour amongst the Aboriginal?

 

[hirokazu]

Oh no, don't bring hitter into this debate, what is that principle called where the longer an argument goes on for, the more likely the nazis or hitter is brought into it? Haha

LOL, it just struck me as an odd thing for someone to say, not attacking his arguments or intended to be part of the discussion whether PhantomZone is a racist or not.

 

[NewGame]

Australia - do not go unless white.

Actually black Americans here are loved. Sure it's in a "omg a black American just like kanye west <3 <3" sort of way but mildly better than usual racism.

 

[Darren870]

oh, didn't know that. What are the percentage of those in the darker skin colour amongst the Aboriginal?

Umm all of them? Aboriginals are darker skinned.

I don't even understand the point of your original comment.

 

[Yagharek]

Wow, reading the thread, it just shows how naive people can be towards racism and all, and the worst thing about it is that he is not even black.
Australia, I think you have a long way to go!

This is an incredibly naive post. If you told an aboriginal person they weren't even black, or said they weren't aboriginal if their skin wasn't dark enough you would probably offend them as much as if you called them the n word.

I don't expect you to know this if you're not Australian, but for aboriginal people I speak to it is about their connection to the land, their community and skin colour is not the whole story. Especially considering some are descendants of people who were forcibly removed from their homes and later had children with European settlers.

 

[Darren870]

This is an incredibly naive post. I guarantee if you told an aboriginal person they weren't even black you would probably offend them as much as if you called them the n word.

I don't expect you to know this if you're not Australian, but for aboriginal people I speak to it is about their connection to the land, their community and skin colour is not the whole story. Especially considering some are descendants of people who were forcibly removed from their homes and later had children with European settlers.

Yea... The irony is he called Australians naive and said we have a long way to go. Yet his whole post was naive. He has a long way to go.

Fair enough he isn't Australian, but don't comment and say Australia is naive on a subject you know nothing about.

 

[captainraincoat]

The whole race thing should of been parked off to the side.....goods gets booed for his on field actions...it has nothing to do with his race....it's unfortunate that he has decided to make it his view by throwing invisible spears at the crowd and then having a sook through the media because he can't handle it when the crowd boo him ...I have attended countless matches through my team (tigers) and bombers (my partners) and he

1)stages for free kicks
2)whines to the umpire
3)snipes people off the ball

And probably my most recent memory of him being a tool..apart from the nut grabbing I mentioned earlier in the thread was him at the Richmond members end...he turns around to the cheer squad...looks at them then proceeds to spit in their direction while smiling....u don't see that on TV and the Richmond members pretty much gave it to him for the rest of the game ...from friends who barrack for other teams it's pretty much the same

It's just sad that people are branding anyone who boos goodes as a racist when he is simply a tool

 

[dejay]

Woah... wait a second.

If a 20% slice of the booing is racial, that's a serious problem and the people claiming there's a racial agenda are completely justified. I don't understand how you can play down 20% as being some tiny handful.

Here's the thing: a section of AFL crowds is engaging in racial abuse, and another significant portion is just joining in for the sake of it -- guess what? They're also complicit in the racial abuse of Goodes. No -- they aren't all racists, but the crap they're supporting is.

Yes, this is true, but a lot of footy supporters aren't that aware. Even though this has been going on for a while, the national conversation has only started last week. Perhaps some of them will reflect on it now.

There are those who may continue to do it because they don't like being told what to do, but it will be telling to see how much of it continues after his (hopeful) return to the game.

It's a pity, because booing has always been part of sport. Now anyone who boos Goodes is gonna be labelled a racist, no matter the intent. I followed the Swans for many years and I've always liked Goodes as a player, who has on occasion displayed great skills, but he does play-act a LOT and his shtick is nerve grinding, but there are other players just as bad who hasn't copped it straight for 18 months.

 

[JC Sera]

Not even to mention the 1920-30 program put in place to "breed out" and the colour in aboriginal populations in an effort to "domesticate" them
and then there was the stolen generation

when you say someone isn't black enough to be indigenous, its pretty dangerous and fucking dark territory

 

[Tim the Wiz]

...

There are some 160 or so other Aboriginal athletes in the AFL and they don't get booed. How does that work?

There are quite a lot of Aboriginal/Indigenous athletes in the NRL and they don't get booed. How does that work?

Minorities who speak out against racism get targeted. Racists are comfortable with minorities who 'know their place'. This is not an unprecedented phenomena. How does this silly line of argument keep getting brought up?

 

[Keikaku]

I don't know how the heck to take some of the responses in here...I can't tell if the people in this thread who are saying that none of the booing of Goodes is racially motivated are trolling, incredibly dumb or just comfortably racist.

This is the Australian equivalent of one of those threads about Roma people that occasionally pops up in the OT.

 

[DonasaurusRex]

...NeoGaf on the screen? lol gold

 

[hirokazu]

I don't know how the heck to take some of the responses in here...I can't tell if the people in this thread who are saying that none of the booing of Goodes is racially motivated are trolling, incredibly dumb or just comfortably racist.

This is the Australian equivalent of one of those threads about Roma people that occasionally pops up in the OT.

At least now we know who the racists amongst AusGAF are, whether they like to admit it or not!

 

[Messofanego]

"She's just 13 for heaven's sake."

EXACTLY! Don't you see it's a systemic issue? Children aren't born racist, they picked that up from someone else! The racism has been passed down. A kid being racist should worry you EVEN MORE!

 

[Kenshin001]

Every cloud has a silver lining. Big show of support for Goodes by fans.

David McGonigal, handing out t-shirts emblazoned with a white 37 on red background, said: "The one thing I really hope comes through the TV if Adam is at home watching is how loved he is."

To stop a fan outside the ground in the hours leading up to the match was to almost invariably hear a common sentiment: we are here to support Adam Goodes.

"To be very honest I'm a Port Power fan, but I'm here to support my brother," Mr Bonney.

But Mr Bonney, who said the booing of Goodes had served to highlight racism in the country, said some good could come of the game's exposure.
"I think today is going to be a watershed for great changes in our country," he said.

"This whole week a lot of people have been very emotional and very upset, Indigenous people and non-Indigenous people, everyone's felt it and everyone's talking about it. But it is finally now that we as a nation are going - you know what - there is something there and we are going to say no."

http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-ne...ows-at-scg-20150801-gipeik.html#ixzz3hXpfTVqn

 

[Jimrpg]

Lots of support for Adam which is goodes to see.

http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-ne...y-swans-star-adam-goodes-20150731-gip9p9.html

 

[show me your skeleton]

Large numbers of The Stolen Generation are still alive. That was only 1/2 generations ago. White Australia was only 3 generations ago. Stolen Wages for indigenous workers last all the way up to 1970s.

You might say Australian racism is funny, but you're only acknowledging the superficial dumb fucker's idea of what racism is. Real racism is when Tasmanian's laugh about there being no aboriginals left. Or when they tell aboriginals to get over it. Or go back to where they came from. Or protest about mosques being built in cities. Or try to stop chinese people buying nice properties in Sydney.

I don't know where the humour lies. I don't see it. The only jokes I see are a paper thin excuse people use to ignore the real, massive, ongoing and ugly racism that runs through this country's history since 1788.

this is a great (and truly upsetting) post.

 

[Grassy]

Wow, reading the thread, it just shows how naive people can be towards racism and all, and the worst thing about it is that he is not even black.
Australia, I think you have a long way to go!

I think you need to extricate your head from your anus, sir.

 

[Zvonimir Boban]

I hope the guys booing Goddes for 'the right reasons' never cheered Shane Warne at all. Failed a drugs test, took cash from dodgy bookies, cheated on his wife, fought with his coach constantly and threw his toys out of the pram whenever a decision didn't go his way.

I don't recall him being booed by Aussie fans each time he started his run-up but I'm sure its just my memory playing tricks on me.

 

[El'Kharn]

At least now we know who the racists amongst AusGAF are, whether they like to admit it or not!

Because of course we are all racist right?
Fucking amazing.

 

[jim-jam bongs]

Wow, reading the thread, it just shows how naive people can be towards racism and all, and the worst thing about it is that he is not even black.
Australia, I think you have a long way to go!

Anyway, this thread is depressing. We do have a really long way to go when it comes to our treatment of indigenous people in this country, they've been failed by both sides of politics in this country. Conservatives simply don't give a shit about them; but progressives have historically spent far too much effort trying to help them cling to a traditional lifestyle which is largely impossible to sustain in modern times, and not enough actually helping to involve aboriginal peoples into the wider social discussion about what this country is about.

People like Goodes are important, because of what they represent to indigenous people not non-indigenous people. His biggest crime is basically exposing white Australia to how a lot of indigenous Australians feel; unrepresented, misunderstood and disenfranchised.

 

[CadetMahoney]

Not even to mention the 1920-30 program put in place to "breed out" and the colour in aboriginal populations in an effort to "domesticate" them
and then there was the stolen generation.

Pretty much, one of the reasons I don't care about visiting Australia ever.

 

[DeSo]

Pretty much, one of the reasons I don't care about visiting Australia ever.

lol Because it has an early racist history? What stupid reasoning.

 

[captainraincoat]

Anyway, this thread is depressing. We do have a really long way to go when it comes to our treatment of indigenous people in this country, they've been failed by both sides of politics in this country. Conservatives simply don't give a shit about them; but progressives have historically spent far too much effort trying to help them cling to a traditional lifestyle which is largely impossible to sustain in modern times, and not enough actually helping to involve aboriginal peoples into the wider social discussion about what this country is about.

People like Goodes are important, because of what they represent to indigenous people not non-indigenous people. His biggest crime is basically exposing white Australia to how a lot of indigenous Australians feel; unrepresented, misunderstood and disenfranchised.

That great....we do treat aboriginals like shit...i agree 100%....its the veichle that this has used which is the issue...people were not booing him because they were racist they are booing him for his on field antics.

Aussies still have a long way to go with embracing aboriginals into our society but by him using it ask a mask for his onfield shitty behavior is not the way to do it.

People like michael long are the perfect example of what bringing the attention of aboriginals and their struggles to the afl...by comparison goodes way of doing it is shitty and i dont think he would be doing this if he wasn't at the end of his career and no amount of armbands....special gurnseys and social media campaigns will undo past..people need to move on and look at new ways to work with aboriginals instead of dragging old skeletons out of the closet and this whole week has been full of it.

 

[Westlo]

Everyone is sick to death of the Sydney Swans.

Pretty much.... if Goodes played for another team the booing would never have got to this stage... cept for West Coast's crowd, because they're full of cunts.

The whole 'nut grabbing' thing is such a perfect example of racism.

Watch a video of that supposed 'incident' it's completely laughable. Everyone saw it and was like "oh yeah there's actually nothing going on there at all". But the still image gets passed around the Internet and people believe Goodes is doing something untoward without knowing any of the facts.

People want to hate Goodes for who he is, and they'll exaggerate any minor incident to give them what they believe is just cause.

Yeah the reaction of the Richmond player certainly suggested it was nothing.... he turned around and confronted him straight away because nothing happened lmao...

If it wasn't goodes, heck if it wasn't a sydney player period it would've be interesting too see what happened... sydney such a protected species, was a joke when buddy and tippett got a week each when they deserved far more.

 

[dejay]

Pretty much, one of the reasons I don't care about visiting Australia ever.

Are you saying you don't want to based on a 1920s policy?

 

[bomma_man]

The hawthorn supporters here may not believe it but people have been booing at the Carlton Roos game tonight! And no one gives a shit! Turns out people actually understand context.

 

[bomma_man]

Pretty much, one of the reasons I don't care about visiting Australia ever.

Aren't you English? The British empire was certainly the apex of tolerance lol.

 

[T-0800]

I hope the guys booing Goddes for 'the right reasons' never cheered Shane Warne at all. Failed a drugs test, took cash from dodgy bookies, cheated on his wife, fought with his coach constantly and threw his toys out of the pram whenever a decision didn't go his way.

I don't recall him being booed by Aussie fans each time he started his run-up but I'm sure its just my memory playing tricks on me.

Shane Warne played for a side (Australian Cricket Team) that 99.9% of Australians supported. Not really the same.