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[poodaddy]

Hope you see this Manabyte

Did he finally catch the big hammer? What did him in?
I feel mixed. He was pretty cool sometimes, and honestly was knowledgeable, just got a little too hot under the collar about certain subjects and made things personal.
I don't know. Think I'll miss him.

Kinda.

 

[Justin9mm]

I hate Ubi games in general, I've tried numerous times and couldn't get into AC, FarCry etc. But I bit the bullet and bought Shadows to try as I just love the setting and I have to say, I'm about 3-4 hours in and actually quite enjoying it so far. Started off a little rough but it's getting better. There's definitely some slight jank and the facial animations are so god awful, like what the fuck awful, but otherwise, it's alright!

 

[VanCityGamer]

I figured it didn't do as well as Valhalla. I'm surprised it's apparently doing better than Wilds though. Even in the UK.

I wonder if it's because Wilds so much better digitally.

Edit: Also, Valhalla is pure unfiltered garbage. It's the only modern AC game I couldn't stand whatsoever. The others are at least good for some brainless fun while enjoying gorgeous vistas.

Valhalla is one of my favorite games of all time.

 

[onQ123]

Physical only tho.

They're gonna have to find something new to gauge it's failure with

 

[onQ123]

One war at a time, padawan.

I believe that AC games actually do good on Xbox

 

[Raven117]

Definitely was never going to save the company. They needed something along the lines of Elden Ring or Monster Hunter Wilds to make up for the past several fops.

This does add value to the Assassin's Creed IP, however. Or at least, it doesn't lower it.

It’s this. It just increases the sale price of Ubi to show the AC franchise still has value.

This was not a hit to save the company. (Even if that could have been done)

 

[Unknown Soldier]

Also Christopher During

 

[Roufianos]

I figured it didn't do as well as Valhalla. I'm surprised it's apparently doing better than Wilds though. Even in the UK.

I wonder if it's because Wilds so much better digitally.

Edit: Also, Valhalla is pure unfiltered garbage. It's the only modern AC game I couldn't stand whatsoever. The others are at least good for some brainless fun while enjoying gorgeous vistas.

Stars are skewed since this is physical and MH is bigger on PC, as per the 1m concurrent on Steam Vs 60k for Ass Creed. Shadows is probably gonna need a couple of months to reach the 8m Wilds did in 3 days.

PS5 still has a very healthy physical base in the UK and I'm assuming Shadows did much better on console vs PC.

 

[kruis]

Valhalla was middle of the pandemic wasn't it, and released on previous gen so not sure it's an apples to apples comparison tbh.

Valhalla was a PS5 launch game, I guess a very high percentage of PS5 buyers got the game because there was very little to choose from.

 

[adamsapple]

Also Christopher During

Not sure what his personal opinions on a game have to do with hard facts like physical unit sales .... but ok .. Dring bad I guess?

They're gonna have to find something new to gauge it's failure with

Already happened

 

[Kilau]

The UK is a meme country when it comes to sales, biggest launch could mean 2000 copies lol doesn't mean anything.

There is that. UK sales threads are always missing the context of the small numbers.

 

[Topher]

Crazy work. Hope he finds a happy home over at Reee.

 

[Topher]

Also Christopher During

"from my point of view"

That's not sales analysis

 

[San Dan Glokta]

Also Christopher During

If the 'Anti-Woke' crowd didn't leave reviews for, or talk about it, or buy it. Then instead of 'Review-bombing' the game they have simply 'BOMBED' it

 

[Fake]

So now physical sales are a good thing now?

 

[PeteBull]

So now physical sales are a good thing?

Physical sale is a sale after all, even if we take that 30% cut from 70usd(or rather 57 pounds since its uk, probably could avg over 60 points if we include special editions) thats still roughly 40pounds ubi is making in pure profit on each physical copy sold, vs for example only 15 pounds/month they make from their premium sub in uk, thats huge difference.
Game had huge budget/hundreds of devs worked on it(over 2h of end credits, not even joking, its there somewhere on twitter, whole credits vid ;p) so ofc any bit additional revenue made is good and most welcomed

 

[Kotaro]

UK is puny and irrelevant

We already got the number from Ubisoft themselves, '2 million PLAYERS in 3 days' which is a terrible number

 

[guiFinger]

The number of launch users for Assassin's Creed Valhalla was twice that of Assassin's Creed Odyssey.
In other words, Assassin's Creed Shadows is about half of Assassin's Creed Valhalla.

 

[San Dan Glokta]

UK is puny and irrelevant

Careful now; Brits may show up to your house to steal your spices just to dump them and never actually season their bland food.

 

[MatrixReloaded101]

Seeing people crash out over the success of this game is hilarious… lol.

 

[Tiago Rodrigues]

Wonder what the excuse will be now.

Seems like it’s doing great.

 

[Bumblebeetuna]

Seeing people crash out over the success of this game is hilarious… lol.

What a shock, grifter Grummz is clutching to the most useless metric imaginable, user scores on Metacritic

 

[Arachnid]

I'm glad it's doing well. It's the best AC game, and it's not even close IMO (though I still prefer Black Flag narratively).

I hope the Black Flag remake takes a lot of cues from this game in terms of stealth.

 

[vaibhavpisal]

Why though? At this point AC is better off in other hands.

How many more mid Witcher 3 rip-offs do gamers need. With time saver mtx and a cosmetic store to boot.

If Ubi goes under, chances are we won’t be seeing any games using their ips.

Or they will be massively downgraded even if some company did made them.

 

[Kenneth Haight]

Physical only tho.

Didn’t you rent the game from GameFly?

It’s funny commenting about physical game sales when you are the biggest proponent of gamepass which ultimately kills game sales completely dead?

Very weird the way people are championing this game one way or another.

 

[Ozriel]

The issue isn’t the sales or the wokeness of the characters.

It’s the fact that these games cost multiple times more than the older AC titles because of DEI crap where they are paying some person who should be flipping burgers at McDonalds $200k a year to tell them to make it more gay.

I’m worried that some of you genuinely seem to believe this crap you spill.

Let’s say you’re right. How does $200k a year for a few years even equate to ‘multiple times the budget of past AC titles’?

 

[calico]

For a little extra context, we know (from ERA annual report) that SW Outlaws sold 81k physical copies in the UK in 2024. It was available for the last four months of 2024, therefore we know Outlaws sold 81k physical copies in the UK in its first four months and obviously some amount less than that in its first three months.

This is an assumption on my part, but I would assume from his choosing to say 'three months' rather than 'four months' that Shadows surpassed the former but not the latter (81k).

I can't find physical only numbers for Valhalla to compare.

 

[PeteBull]

The number of launch users for Assassin's Creed Valhalla was twice that of Assassin's Creed Odyssey.
In other words, Assassin's Creed Shadows is about half of Assassin's Creed Valhalla.

That would point out to game roughly breaking even/being mild success, aka it wont increase Ubi's debt/wont worsen its financial situation but definitely wont save the company either, ofc pure speculation but thats how it probably gonna turn out...

 

[Kerotan]

I figured it didn't do as well as Valhalla. I'm surprised it's apparently doing better than Wilds though. Even in the UK.

I wonder if it's because Wilds sold much better digitally.

Edit: Also, Valhalla is pure unfiltered garbage. It's the only modern AC game I couldn't stand whatsoever. The others are at least good for some brainless fun while enjoying gorgeous vistas.

Digital share has increased in the 4 years since Valhalla. I'm thinking this launch will be lower then Valhalla overall but not by a huge amount. Legs could be better if WOM is better then Valhalla.

 

[Team Andromeda]

Makes a change for being proud of being British lately

 

[jm89]

UK is puny and irrelevant

 

[kazuyamishima]

Valhalla sold around 151k copies physical and around 159k copies digital on launch week in the UK.

That was in November 2020 during Covid and PS5/Xbox series launch.

Well behind is Origins with 102k units physical and 57k digital.

Odyssey did 75k physical and 50k digital.

The previous entry, Mirage, did about 40k physical and 60k digital on launch week.

Is not known where Shadows landed, but it did around 10k+ on Amazon alone for the PS5 version.

 

[Paasei]

Good, it's a solid game. The best game? Fuck no, but it's quite a step forward from the previous titles for once.

They can scrap the warrior archetype and focus on stealth on the next one. There's good changes here they should take to the next level (especially if you play on Expert).

 

[Thick Thighs Save Lives]

UK is puny and irrelevant

We already got the number from Ubisoft themselves, '2 million PLAYERS in 3 days' which is a terrible number

You're the same dude who immediately went to spam the MH Wilds sales thread, and now you're dismissing an apples to apples comparison (Shadows outselling MH Wilds in physical sales in the UK) from one of the most important gaming markets.

there's no PLAYERS count bullshit here, UNITS SOLD chad only

Woketards bragging AC Shadows, 2 million PLAYERS in 48 hours = success

Meanwhile MHW, 8 million SOLD in 72 hours = dead

nope. no fuzzy math, no fluff, no bullshit PR to trick people here

 

[Black_Stride]

 

[StueyDuck]

you guys need to stop putting your whole personality and account on the line here for this game.

It's neither gonna be a smash hit nor is it a flop.

most l likely it's gonna just sell enough from brand recognition or it may be "successful" but not reach it's targets.

Not sure why some of you wanna live and die on "BEST SALES EVAH or NO ONE BOUGHT IT, GAME IS FAILURE".

Like even Star wars outlaws still sold well based again on the brand. it just didn't sell well enough.

 

[Topher]

You're the same dude who immediately went to spam the MH Wilds sales thread, and now you're dismissing an apples to apples comparison (Shadows outselling MH Wilds in physical sales in the UK) from one of the most important gaming markets.

Same guy who claimed KCD 2's 256k CCU was "bad" and based on his posts that take is entirely due to the existence of a gay scene

 

[Black_Stride]

Good, it's a solid game. The best game? Fuck no, but it's quite a step forward from the previous titles for once.

They can scrap the warrior archetype and focus on stealth on the next one. There's good changes here they should take to the next level (especially if you play on Expert).

Honestly.
They should just take whichever one of their engines is most performant and can handle Global Illumination well and make Splinter-Cell.
We tired of waiting.

Anvil or Snowdrop.....leaning towards Snowdrop for that sweet RT implementation.

 

[MMaRsu]

Honestly.
They should just take whichever one of their engines is most performant and can handle Global Illumination well and make Splinter-Cell.
We tired of waiting.

Anvil or Snowdrop.....leaning towards Snowdrop for that sweet RT implementation.

Ahhh imagine a SC game with this engine

 

[Black_Stride]

Ahhh imagine a SC game with this engine

Snowdrop on PC is also no slouch.
Anvil or Snowdrop for SplinterCell either way we are eating.

 

[Paasei]

Honestly.
They should just take whichever one of their engines is most performant and can handle Global Illumination well and make Splinter-Cell.
We tired of waiting.

Anvil or Snowdrop.....leaning towards Snowdrop for that sweet RT implementation.

Yes, a new Splinter Cell would be very welcome. There’s cool mechanics in either game that both can benefit from big time.

 

[Kotaro]

You're the same dude who immediately went to spam the MH Wilds sales thread, and now you're dismissing an apples to apples comparison (Shadows outselling MH Wilds in physical sales in the UK) from one of the most important gaming markets.

at the end of the day, Ubisoft's number is the only one that matters, 2 million total players in 3 days (not concurrent players), and that's a horrible number. period

 

[MMaRsu]

Snowdrop on PC is also no slouch.
Anvil or Snowdrop for SplinterCell either way we are eating.

Doesnt SW Outlaws run on Snowdrop?

It's not as good looking as AC Shadows nor does it run as well

 

[PeteBull]

you guys need to stop putting your whole personality and account on the line here for this game.

It's neither gonna be a smash hit nor is it a flop.

most l likely it's gonna just sell enough from brand recognition or it may be "successful" but not reach it's targets.

Not sure why some of you wanna live and die on "BEST SALES EVAH or NO ONE BOUGHT IT, GAME IS FAILURE".

Like even Star wars outlaws still sold well based again on the brand. it just didn't sell well enough.

Yups, so far we got 3 points of data, peak 65k ccu on steam, 2m players official announcement and that uk sales launch week info, all 3 point out to game not being total epic bomb but neighter wild success so by default game had to land on other 3 possibilities that left- either perform below expectactions, roughly break even or be mild success, all 3 are kinda boring and not great for making headlines but thats where AC:S sales/revenue(since ubi subs count towards revenue here) will land.

 

[Mr Reasonable]

Not sure why some of you wanna live and die on "BEST SALES EVAH or NO ONE BOUGHT IT, GAME IS FAILURE".

I don't perceive it as that, I think it's more "huh, turns out it's not a total bomb like you said it would be, because of some reviews from Amazon in Japan."

Agree with you generally though, people seem too keen to say things are perfection, seemingly crafted by God, or are trash because it doesn't fit exactly your personal vision.

 

[BosmerCulter]

Some people don't understand the point of AC: Shadows being a success or a failure. It's not about saving Ubisoft: even if it's a massive hit, Ubisoft is fucked anyway.

The point is to show that, despite the thousands of shitshows surrounding the game, the online discourse about the mediocrity of recent AC games, especially Valhalla, and Ubisoft's current reputation, Assassin's Creed remains a flagship franchise that alone is worth it. We'll see, but if the game actually manages to be a commercial success despite everything, it will give the Guillemot family a considerable advantage in negotiations for a possible acquisition or financial partnership

 

[Dazraell]

Crazy work. Hope he finds a happy home over at Reee.

Well, about that...

 

[Sentenza]

you guys need to stop putting your whole personality and account on the line here for this game.

It's neither gonna be a smash hit nor is it a flop.

most l likely it's gonna just sell enough from brand recognition or it may be "successful" but not reach it's targets.

Not sure why some of you wanna live and die on "BEST SALES EVAH or NO ONE BOUGHT IT, GAME IS FAILURE".

Like even Star wars outlaws still sold well based again on the brand. it just didn't sell well enough.

Yup. it's also weird because these were all things that I thought we established months before the release:

"It's Assassin's Creed, so it will never 'BOMB' entirely, but given Ubisoft's current situation on the market, anything that isn't a super-strong performance will be trouble for them in the long run. And even that may not assure safety".

But somehow thanks to some misguided sense of loyalty toward one side or the other of the "culture war" now we are seeing a bunch of notable ones making clowns of themselves trying to frame a specific scenario.
So, for example, every time that a retailer isn't self-combusting the moment the game is put on a shelves is somehow painted as a massive win.

Hold your fucking horses?
Spare the celebratory march for when we'll have something more concrete in a few weeks, maybe?

 

[Tiago Rodrigues]

Yups, so far we got 3 points of data, peak 65k ccu on steam, 2m players official announcement and that uk sales launch week info, all 3 point out to game not being total epic bomb but neighter wild success so by default game had to land on other 3 possibilities that left- either perform below expectactions, roughly break even or be mild success, all 3 are kinda boring and not great for making headlines but thats where AC:S sales/revenue(since ubi subs count towards revenue here) will land.

I don't get it...how is it that being the biggest launch of the year and a launch bigger than a Monster Hunter game in a country points out for a game just "not being a total epic bomb"?

Sounds like "roughly breaking even" is a given?

 

[bigdad2007]

I’m worried that some of you genuinely seem to believe this crap you spill.

Let’s say you’re right. How does $200k a year for a few years even equate to ‘multiple times the budget of past AC titles’?

It isn’t just one person, that was an example. Where did I say $200k a year covered the budget of multiple past AC titles?

I said that if you add up the millions they spend on DEI, Ubisoft could make a few AA games. AA games. You know the cheaper niche games that used to actually make some money that propped up these companies?