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[Gaiff]

Need at least RDNA2 or RTX 20 series and above. You need a GPU that supports mesh shaders.

I know we have a dedicated performance thread but I feel this needs its own thread. It's the first game that doesn't officially support those cards as far as I'm aware and they still make up a significant chunk of the market. Not sure if it will be a thing going forward, but Pascal cards had a good run.

 

[LordBlodgett]

If not supporting every graphics card under the sun makes it easier for developers to make better games in a shorter amount of time then I'm all for it. There is a trade off between cutting too much of your audience out and making it easier to develop, but we see Remedy taking multiple steps to cut costs or make development faster (This and going digital only) and I think it's a good experiment.

 

[Red5]

Whelp that's me tapping out. See ya when I get an RTX 5000.

 

[ChiefDada]

Damn, I guess the PS5 is outta luck on this with it's RDNA 1 based GPU.

 

[demented waffle]

Good riddance.

 

[Bojji]

Does it really use mesh shaders? There are pretty much no games that do and we have this tech since 2018.

 

[FalconPunch]

Need at least RDNA2 or RTX 20 series and above. You need a GPU that supports mesh shaders.



I know we have a dedicated performance thread but I feel this needs its own thread. It's the first game that doesn't officially support those cards as far as I'm aware and they still make up a significant chunk of the market. Not sure if it will be a thing going forward, but Pascal cards had a good run.

Then how's the game running on ps5?

 

[demented waffle]

nvm

 

[StereoVsn]

On one hand I get it, older card limitations can clash against what they are developing.

On the other hand between Epic store exclusivity and this, PC sales will be pretty bad.

 

[Gudji]

PS5 is done for.

 

[Mister Wolf]

Out with the old in with the new.

 

[Rocco Schiavone]

Game doesn't support physical discs either.

This game is so advanced.

 

[ChiefDada]

Wait, this is coming out on the Series S too?

 

[Thick Thighs Save Lives]

Wait, this is coming out on the Series S too?

You left out the most important thing, it's running at 1080p 30 fps with DLSS/FSR set to quality which means the internal resolution is lower than 1080p .

 

[Zuzu]

It seems it’s been made with the future RTX 50 & 60 series as the ideal cards to play this game. That’s fine, I just hope it doesn’t affect sales too much. I don’t want to hear them complaining that the game bombed because so many people struggled to run it (in addition to it not coming out with a physical version and being exclusive to Epic Store).

 

[64bitmodels]

the end for pascal is near.....it's so insane as i remember seeing the 1080ti way back in 2017 and declaring it my dream GPU.... now it's slowly becoming obsolete

Tech moves on.

 

[Gaiff]

Wait, this is coming out on the Series S too?

It seems it’s been made with the future RTX 50 & 60 series as the ideal cards to play this game. That’s fine, I just hope it doesn’t affect sales too much. I don’t want to hear them complaining that the game bombed because so many people struggled to run it.

PS5 will have to do a lot of the carrying. Almost sounds like they're intentionally trying to tank their PC sales. For one, it's an EGS exclusive, and for two, around 1/3rd of the crowd on PC is still on Pascal and older GPUs. I'm all for adopting new tech and dropping old stuff though.

 

[FireFly]

It seems it’s been made with the future RTX 50 & 60 series as the ideal cards to play this game. That’s fine, I just hope it doesn’t affect sales too much. I don’t want to hear them complaining that the game bombed because so many people struggled to run it.

These cards could be 2 years out. RDNA 4 may arrive sooner but the high-end part is rumoured to be cancelled.

 

[Kadve]

My 5600XT is just three years old. There is absolutely no reason for why i should have to upgrade that soon!

 

[BennyBlanco]

It seems it’s been made with the future RTX 50 & 60 series as the ideal cards to play this game. That’s fine, I just hope it doesn’t affect sales too much. I don’t want to hear them complaining that the game bombed because so many people struggled to run it.

I’m very interested to see the path tracing and how it stacks up to path traced Cyberpunk. Console versions will be scaled way back.

 

[proandrad]

There is no chance the performance mode for consoles in this game will be stable.

 

[demented waffle]

There is no chance the performance mode for consoles in this game will be stable.

There is almost no chance of this being true. This is FUD. I wish this was true, but I'm saying no way it is.

 

[Zuzu]

These cards could be 2 years out. RDNA 4 may arrive sooner but the high-end part is rumoured to be cancelled.

Yeah it could be a while. Hopefully 30 series will run it okish for now. I mean I’m sure it’ll run quite well on a 4070ti, 4080 & 4090 but those are not cards that have a large consumer base I would think. I do hope that these high system requirements, the lack of physical version and its EGS exclusivity don’t cause it to fail sales-wise.

 

[Jigsaah]

If I can get 90 fps in 1440p with a 4090 then I'll be satisfied.

Frame generation DLSS 3.5 is kinda bonkers. I play high settings on Cyberpunk with Ray Reconstruction, DLSS set to quality and frame generation on and I'm gettin 120+*** fps most of the time.

I imagine it will be similar for Alan Wake II.

 

[demented waffle]

If I can get 90 fps in 1440p with a 4090 then I'll be satisfied.

Frame generation DLSS 3.5 is kinda bonkers. I play high settings on Cyberpunk with Ray Reconstruction, DLSS set to quality and frame generation on and I'm gettin 120+*** fps most of the time.

I imagine it will be similar for Alan Wake II.

I'd imagine frame gen would be decent in Alan Wake. It's pretty much ass to meh in cyberpunk. Depending on what you're doing.

 

[Zuzu]

There is no chance the performance mode for consoles in this game will be stable.

Yeah I think you’ll be right. It’ll most likely be an fsr upscaled blur fest that will mostly hover between 40-55fps. Likely a worthless mode.

 

[Jigsaah]

I'd imagine frame gen would be decent in Alan Wake. It's pretty much ass to meh in cyberpunk. Depending on what you're doing.

Really? Are you talking about like...walking around in Dogtown?

 

[Luipadre]

There is no chance the performance mode for consoles in this game will be stable.

it will most certainly never hit stable 60 and will have awful screen tearing too. I'll stick with 30 for sure

 

[Black_Stride]

In Remedy we trust!!!!

P.S Wouldnt the GTX 1660Ti also support mesh shaders

 

[Zathalus]

Wait, this is coming out on the Series S too?

Game is going to be extremely shit on the Series S. Only moderately shit on the X and PS5.

 

[MadchesterManc]

In Remedy we trust!!!!

P.S Wouldnt the GTX 1660Ti also support mesh shaders

Should do as its supposedly Turing without the RT & Tensor cores, but you never know what other cuts were done to the 16 series I guess

 

[demented waffle]

Really? Are you talking about like...walking around in Dogtown?

I haven't gotten the xpac, but it's decent if you're hacking at shit. It's meh at best if you're shooting. And I'm being kind when I say meh. That's coming from 40fps(ish) to mid 60's.

 

[Insane Metal]

Yeah, this will be heavy. It'll probably run internally at like 900-1080p on PS5/XSX and 640p on Series S.

 

[kruis]

My 5600XT is just three years old. There is absolutely no reason for why i should have to upgrade that soon!

I bet people who bought a PS4 in 2020 feel the same way about publishers releasing PS5 only games in 2023.

 

[Black_Stride]

My 5600XT is just three years old. There is absolutely no reason for why i should have to upgrade that soon!

You got the worst AMD GPU from 2 generations ago......and you are shocked it likely cant play one of the most technically advanced games coming out?




Dont @ me with that Navi 14 shit, thats basically a bunch of display ports and thats it.

 

[HeWhoWalks]

Daaaaammmmmmn! They ain't playin'!

My rig's plenty set, but I feel for folks!

 

[Leonidas]

My PC has been ready since 2018

 

[LordOfChaos]

At least that super duper duper mega ultra extra settles the PS5 isn't RDNA 2 debate

 

[xrnzaaas]

They're doing all they can to make this game flop on PC.

Personally I'm wondering how it'll run in the performance mode on the consoles, probably gonna look like crap.

 

[Jayjayhd34]

You left out the most important thing, it's running at 1080p 30 fps with DLSS/FSR set to quality which means the internal resolution is lower than 1080p .

Reminds me of alan wake orginal running at 540p on the 360

Oh yeah forgot say was probably the best looking 360 game

 

[Black_Stride]

My PC has been ready since 2018

Damn the 20 series came out in 2018.
And people are complaining a game in late 2023 is asking for 2018 GPUs.

The 7000 Intel CPUs came out basically in 20 frikken 16.

 

[Black_Stride]

They're doing all they can to make this game flop on PC.

Of the top 10 most popular GPUs only 3 dont support Mesh Shaders.

This game being a benchmark game is a good thing.
Itll hopefully sell well and be used in future benchmarks to show off just how far we can push graphics.
I dont expect its CPU utilization to be as high as CyberPunk but atleast on the graphical side of things, it looks to be doing some cool shit.

Remedy already have publishers for their next two games, so I dont think they are pining for cash regardless of Alan Wake 2s success or failure.

 

[ChuckeRearmed]

Is it UE5 game? Because if it is, it means that either UE5 is a mess (as we haven't seen a decently running game in UE5 yet) or developers are not that great.

 

[mrcroket]

My 5600XT is just three years old. There is absolutely no reason for why i should have to upgrade that soon!

My sweet summer child, PC hardware becomes outdated much faster after new console generations.

 

[Crayon]

Oh boy there's going to be drama no matter how this game runs on anything.

 

[SF Kosmo]

I'm excited to see devs really pushing new next-gen rendering paradigms. This stuff is technically amazing and really changes the way games are arted and designed.

I get that it's a drag when your old computer can't run the new thing, but selfishly I am looking forward to games pushing the bleeding edge.

 

[Hudo]

Whelp that's me tapping out. See ya when I get an RTX 5000.

Don't forget to save $2000

 

[Krappadizzle]

I mean... The more support the better, but you do kind of have to set a limit.

 

[Mister Wolf]

Is it UE5 game? Because if it is, it means that either UE5 is a mess (as we haven't seen a decently running game in UE5 yet) or developers are not that great.

It's their own in house engine Northlight.

 

[demigod]

PS5 will have to do a lot of the carrying. Almost sounds like they're intentionally trying to tank their PC sales. For one, it's an EGS exclusive, and for two, around 1/3rd of the crowd on PC is still on Pascal and older GPUs. I'm all for adopting new tech and dropping old stuff though.

This game is going to flop hard. I give it less than 3 months and it’ll either be on ps plus or gamepass.