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[thicc_girls_are_teh_best]

And generally speaking, he's right.

Authentic diversity and DEI are not the same thing. One doesn't go out of its way to put down one group just to prop another up, doesn't do race/gender/sexuality swaps just to upset fans and then call them istaphobes, doesn't use a character's ethnicity, gender or sexuality as a cheap marketing point in lieu of them having actually interesting backstories, morals, values, virtues, and struggles. Doesn't insist you have to include x% of this or that group just to fulfill a quota.

It should be easy to know what the difference is.

 

[I collect VHS tapes]

if you want a laugh read this thread on the other forum

 

[mitch1971]

Jason Schreier already furiously writing a hit-piece as we speak while his wife is getting fucked by her boyfriend in the next room.

Nah. His wife is strapped and fucking his boyfriend.

 

[Venom Snake]

It seems to me that the only way to make DEI work in games (or other media) is to stop treating it as a manifestation of political correctness.

Why create views instead of content? There is potential in every issue, it just needs to be presented properly.

If the industry has no idea how to sell it without harming itself, maybe it's time to return to more universal topics, something that brings more people together instead of dividing them.

 

[Bombolone]

Well, not exactly what he said. (If)

Regardless.
A couple of years or even months ago he wouldn't have been able to even question the role of DEI in this industry or other. Nobody could. Now I see developers starting to voice their opinions of it.
Times a changin.

DEI belongs in the bin.

 

[Kacho]

If the industry has no idea how to sell it without harming itself, maybe it's time to return to more universal topics, something that brings more people together instead of dividing them.

 

[ULTROS!]

if you want a laugh read this thread on the other forum

I couldn’t laugh, I was cringing hard.

They’re so far removed from actual society

 

[Gameplay Gods Bless]

Winds are changing.

After 2024, it feels like the games industry is poised for a vibe shift—or maybe a reckoning

This year's trends and hardships are setting up 2025 to be a year of big change.

www.pcgamer.com

Lmao watching these idealogues cry about their dei world crumbling never gets old.

 

[Madflavor]

Lmao watching these idealogues cry about their dei world crumbling never gets old.

You'll get to really see these next couple of years which ones were zealous in their ideologies, and which of them were just performative.

 

[Bernardougf]

So it's confirm no acquisition from sony

Precisely

 

[Bernardougf]

You'll get to really see these next couple of years which ones were zealous in their ideologies, and which of them were just performative.

I really love the "neutral" ones.. having more meltdowns than the wokes thenselfs.

 

[Bernardougf]

The leftists really are a loving and peaceful kind... is all about democracy for them and respecting choices.

 

[solecon64]

While I completely agree and think that it's nicely healing that people in the industry can finally start saying these things, this guy should really look at his community managers and question how much they/them added to the game.

Because it's been an absolute disgrace, and him trying to be "reasonable" while nurturing such brainrot is sad.

 

[daninthemix]

it’s funny, this is misquoted in the OP both here and on the other forum, and people are going crazy. If you actually read the tweet instead of the post title it’s a pretty reasonable and balanced opinion.

That's because a substantial portion of posters on both forums are eager to generate hostility.

 

[FunkMiller]

if you want a laugh read this thread on the other forum

If I want my daily quota of mental health issues, I'll pop down the local psych ward.

 

[Gonzito]

if you want a laugh read this thread on the other forum

Haha, just did. Everyone is offended there. Fucking trash forum

 

[Jaybe]

if you want a laugh read this thread on the other forum

7 months ago, they worshiped this guy for standing up to Sony and their PSN requirement being inserted into the Steam version of the game, and now he’s public enemy #1 for them such deluded pinheads

 

[LectureMaster]

 

[Panajev2001a]

Haha, just did. Everyone is offended there. Fucking trash forum

Thing is that he covered his bases, he did not say DEI has no place he said it has no place if it does not add to the game experience . Still, we know what he meant .

 

[GymWolf]

Hopefully helmet never find this tweet and fire his ass

 

[Cakeboxer]

Thing is that he covered his bases, he did not say DEI has no place he said it has no place if it does not add to the game experience . Still, we know what he meant .

Doesn't matter. People are offended that he picked this specific post to reply to, because that already shows his true intentions. Guess Helldivers 3 will get the Hary Potter treatment over there.

 

[Lambogenie]

Waiting for businesses to trim this fat, finally too. So many people silently accepting or they'd lose their jobs for speaking out over this blatant brainwashing, cultist behaviour. So many unskilled, entitled brats employed in good roles. Peddling this crap instead of being productive. Not to mention companies wasting money paying fraudsters to have talks to their employees.

 

[Sintoid]

Next Helldivers 2 update will bring Japanese loli with big boobs or Korean plastic dolls?

 

[Tarnpanzer]

Haha, just did. Everyone is offended there. Fucking trash forum

There isn´t even a meaningful discussion over there regarding this topic. Almost all posts are just slurs, and if you have a different opinion you get banned.

 

[Gonzito]

There isn´t even a meaningful discussion over there regarding this topic. Almost all posts are just slurs, and if you have a different opinion you get banned.

I used to be a user there a few years ago and got banned for using the word trigger lol

 

[neocycle]

Arrowhead is the last hope for Sony.
Pretty much all of their other studios are infested with Trans activists.

 

[Hypereides]

Watched his post-mortem presentation about HD2 recently. This guy has the kind of thinking more game developers should aspire to have.

 

[SweetTooth]

It's nice to see he's allowed to say those things, I'm pretty sure that wouldn't be possible if Sony owned Arrowhead.

I like also to imagine things and projects them as facts on forums

 

[playXray]

So, what is it?
Game developers should focus on making great games first and foremost?

Read the Tweet, it’s all there.

 

[Peroroncino]

if you want a laugh read this thread on the other forum

lmao

 

[ComboBongo]

I just got banned on there. I merely agreed with the points he made, had people swearing, calling me an idiot and yet I got banned…. Wow.

 

[nkarafo]

It's ridiculous that 'if it doesn't add to the game experience, it shouldn't be there' is a controversial statement.

It's not that ridiculous if you think how the wokies don't really care about the game experience, or the movie experience or any "experience".

They just want their agenda attached to everything that exists.

 

[Three]

Arrowhead is the last hope for Sony.
Pretty much all of their other studios are infested with Trans activists.

This nonsense people spout needs to die. There are no trans activists at Asobi, none at Guerrilla Games, none at sucker punch hell I don't think there are "trans activists" at any of their studios. They've never had a game with any trans people in them.

 

[Xtib81]

Common sense ? I hadn't seen that in a while.

 

[ZVWQP-9B8TM-VH9CT]

I just got banned on there. I merely agreed with the points he made, had people swearing, calling me an idiot and yet I got banned…. Wow.

people? You mean nutjobs.

 

[Schmendrick]

I just got banned on there. I merely agreed with the points he made, had people swearing, calling me an idiot and yet I got banned…. Wow.

Getting banned on era is literally as easy as asking yourself "What would a mentally stable, well educated, adult person without any kind of fanatical agenda say in this situation?" and then writing that down.

 

[Wildebeest]

Using social media to talk about subjects like this is big dumb because people who use microblogs regularly don't have any rational sense of proportion or context.

 

[RCX]

None of this is a revelation. It's common fucking sense.

Improvements in graphics power came with a specific drawback: too many game devs thought that shiny visuals meant their product was now "art" and needed to have hard-hitting narratives to match. They forgot they were in the business of interactive fun

You make "games". Just do that.

 

[Woopah]

DEI should be used to treat employees better, it's not something that should be "added" to a product because you're chasing some modern audience.

 

[ComboBongo]

Using social media to talk about subjects like this is big dumb because people who use microblogs regularly don't have any rational sense of proportion or context.

“So what you’re saying is….” “So your angle is….” Rather than reading and absorbing what I literally said. Me pointing out that people want to play games to escape reality meant that I’m an idiot.

 

[Nintendo's Witch]

I just got banned on there. I merely agreed with the points he made, had people swearing, calling me an idiot and yet I got banned…. Wow.

Don't think too much about it, these people are absolutely deranged. They made you a favor.

 

[Trilobit]

I just got banned on there. I merely agreed with the points he made, had people swearing, calling me an idiot and yet I got banned…. Wow.

I'm honestly surprised that there are any non-extremists left there.

 

[FStubbs]

The opposite of DEI is basically Jim Crow. Is that what we're aiming for now?

 

[diffusionx]

This is just self evidently true, you cannot serve two masters. There is a reason why Marvel turned to shit as soon as they decided to “focus on representation” with the M-She-U. Once something other than the quality of your product becomes the focus, then the quality of your product becomes secondary.

 

[PeteBull]

What’s funny about this is that if a bunch of woke gamers tried to review bomb Helldivers 2, it wouldn’t even move the needle.

Thats how tiny woke buble is, close to noone beside paid reviewers and majority of western devs

 

[PeteBull]

I just got banned on there. I merely agreed with the points he made, had people swearing, calling me an idiot and yet I got banned…. Wow.

U talking about modern day nazi forum with a rainbow flag, bro?
I wanna have empathy, but on the other hand, u made an account there, its obvious if u are on the side of reality, clownworld zealots gonna get annoyed with u and ur sane takes, and zealots with modpowers on era, well...

 

[PeteBull]

The opposite of DEI is basically Jim Crow. Is that what we're aiming for now?

Nope, opposite of DEI is Meritocracy:
No bonus points coz of ur skin colour or what u got between ur legs

That is why extremly competetive gaming industry can thrive and correct itselfs despite what some devs/pubs were trying to push, we can punish bad games by not buying them and reward good ones by buying them, simple and effective system that always works

 

[FStubbs]

Nope, opposite of DEI is Meritocracy:
No bonus points coz of ur skin colour or what u got between ur legs

That is why extremly competetive gaming industry can thrive and correct itselfs despite what some devs/pubs were trying to push, we can punish bad games by not buying them and reward good ones by buying them, simple and effective system that always works

How does meritocracy have anything to do with the characters in the game itself? I thought the topic was about the game experience.

 

[ComboBongo]

I'm honestly surprised that there are any non-extremists left there.

To be fair I don’t really post there which is why I was still unbanned. Just lurk here and there.

 

[PeteBull]

How does meritocracy have anything to do with the characters in the game itself? I thought the topic was about the game experience.

It does for the very simple reason DEI character design will make sure game either gonna get substantially lowered sales or will straight up bomb, despite brownie points from sellout reviewers xD