Assassin's Creed Shadows officially has surpassed the launches of AC Origins and AC Odyssey according to UbiSoft
LectureMaster
Has Man Musk
What you mean it doesn't affect the game? The event options are way more than just romance options, there are loads of event whether you can choose to spare someone or kill them, or pretend not knowing Japanese, etc. The canon mode lock them all out.
I mean come on now, my man. Mass Effect you play a player-created completely fictional character. I have no problem Ubi shoehorns some half assed gay romances in previous AC games, or even for Naoe as they are all fictional characters. But they claim Yasuke is real historical figure, There is absolutely no record Yasuke being gay on history, adding such thing to a historical figure is clear to pander the woketards who mostly never buy games anyway. Yet you are here to defend Ubi's dumb practice on GAF.Mass Effect 3 has a similar option where the game can choose canon options for you and you don't need to.
But to Mana's point, you have to actively seek out the gay dialogue options to get to that conclusion, it's in your hands. All the dumb posts about "Oh no they got a black aaaand gayyyyy guy" are basically lying out of their teeth for clout
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TheChadOfGaming
Member
rare giga chud w slipping away
its over
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DenchDeckard
Moderated wildly
My only issue was why have a black guy in Japan when it could be a legit samurai. BUT after playing it I get the power fantasy in the intro. Not sure how it is once he's unlocked because I'm just Naoe for life lol
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
There is no historical record of Nobunaga being a busty anime waifu either but there are licensed IP's that have portrayed him as such. You wanna start a change.org petition for those too?
It's an RPG with a certain amount of player agency, it's up to the player to evoke that agency to their liking. In the 'canon' route that Ubisoft has laid out, there are no same sex romances, so as far as we're concerned, that's what Ubisoft considers canon.
It's like what Mark Hamil said about Luke Skywalker when someone asked him if Luke could be gay. He said 'sure he is, if you want him to be', i-e it's up to the viewers interpretation.
Make of that information what you will.
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Lokaum D+
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stop calling ppl racists over nothing, its the second time you do this in AC threads, grown the fuck up.
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semiconscious
Member
as fewer & fewer major titles are released, & there's less & less to get excited about? yes, this'll become the new normal...
I’m not the one trying to erase a black guy from history.
The Chairman
Member
To be fair there are a lot of fabrication and lies about his story.
Was the life of Yasuke from Assassin's Creed Shadows invented by a scientist? The university is investigating, the Japanese parliament is interested
The dubious historical accuracy and alleged disrespect for Japanese culture in Assassin's Creed Shadows has led to a scandal that continues to flare u
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LectureMaster
Has Man Musk
You are spinning the subject with altered context. People know what they are expecting for the forementioned anime, while the AC IP has the pillar of following history event.There is no historical record of Nobunaga being a busty anime waifu either but there are licensed IP's that have portrayed him as such. You wanna start a change.org petition for those too?
It's an RPG with a certain amount of player agency, it's up to the player to evoke that agency to their liking. In the 'canon' route that Ubisoft has laid out, there are no same sex romances, so as far as we're concerned, that's what Ubisoft considers canon.
Make of that information what you will.
And I absolutely said nothing about whether you should or not engage in those romance option in Shadows, what I said is it is woke as fuck, regardless Ubi has a canon mode or not. Don't use RPG as the shield for this crap, by this standard, you Avowed isn't a good RPG as it doesn't offer such "player agency".
Lokaum D+
Member
no one is, Yasuke is not a world-famous figure, no one has the obligation to know whether he existed or not, we know because it is a subject that interests us and thats it.
I’m not talking about Thomas Lockley. Why is that the only thing people turn to try to erase Yasuke? There are sources that predate Lockley.To be fair there are a lot of fabrication and lies about his story.
Was the life of Yasuke from Assassin's Creed Shadows invented by a scientist? The university is investigating, the Japanese parliament is interested
The dubious historical accuracy and alleged disrespect for Japanese culture in Assassin's Creed Shadows has led to a scandal that continues to flare u
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Blitzkrieg!
Member
To Ubisoft’s credit (or not, depending on your POV) it looks like they took steps to wring some of the wokeness out of this game as we got closer to launch. The canon mode would be an example of that. My working assumption is that some of the brass saw the way the winds were blowing with the ideological nonsense in the last couple years and put the hammer down to course correct.
LectureMaster
Has Man Musk
Wow, just like the twitter mob. You understand when you are calling people racist you already lose the argument? Are you not even capable of reading context? Was my quote truly about whether Yasuke is real or not? This is ridiculous.
And where did I say AC did not or should not feature optional romance? I was telling you canon mode is not your excuse for Ubi, as it no only removes romance, it removes all the options in the game.
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Zathalus
Member
It's already been proved that article is bullshit. "The university fired Lockley", no it didn't.To be fair there are a lot of fabrication and lies about his story.
Was the life of Yasuke from Assassin's Creed Shadows invented by a scientist? The university is investigating, the Japanese parliament is interested
The dubious historical accuracy and alleged disrespect for Japanese culture in Assassin's Creed Shadows has led to a scandal that continues to flare u
You said that Ubi claims he was real meaning you don’t believe that.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
To be fair there are a lot of fabrication and lies about his story.
Was the life of Yasuke from Assassin's Creed Shadows invented by a scientist? The university is investigating, the Japanese parliament is interested
The dubious historical accuracy and alleged disrespect for Japanese culture in Assassin's Creed Shadows has led to a scandal that continues to flare u
There are articles, records and pages on the official Diet Library website of Japan irrespective of Lockley.
I think we are well past the point of doubting Yasuke's entire existence now. That's a 12 month old rehashed 'controversy'.
The game, like all previous entries, begins with a disclaimer about it being a fictional tale. If you think people should know what to expect when they go into an anime, they should also expect that the AC games are not meant to be accurate historical retelling. All the disclaimers at the start of each of these games say that, the official website says that.
This is elementary level stuff. We are making outrage over nothing here.
Let it go.
LectureMaster
Has Man Musk
Who the said "claim" automatically means disbelief? Read the full sentence in fact I was criticizing Ubi because of Yasuke is a REAL figure. Come on now. You Ubi apologizers really need do better.
Lokaum D+
Member
There is, but nothing conclusive, as a Portuguese speaker i read the letters i could find online and the only conclusive thing about Yasuke is that Oda liked him, he was given a sword, the samurai thing is not conclusive, he stayed at Oda side for 1 Year and once Oda died, Akechi took his sword back spared his life and then he returned to the Jesuits and that is, he did absolutely nothing of recognition in Japan other the be Oda retainer.
the whole black samurai fantasy was Thomas Locklei.
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Which in the 1500s in Japan makes you a Samurai if someone like Oda gives you a sword.
Lokaum D+
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if you say so, i just told you what some documents from the Jesuits say, if you want to believe that a sword makes him a samurai, go forth, i m not gonna say you are wrong, it dosnt make any difference for me if he was or wasn't.
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Topher
Identifies as young
Clearly you read him wrong. Either way, you are way to eager to throw out "racist". There was nothing "racist" about what he said.
LectureMaster
Has Man Musk
It's the franchise's reputation and people's perception. It's a long running franchise, not a single disclaim is gonna magically reverse all the fundamentals.
I am not raging over nothing, what I have been saying is that this is a typical Ubi game, gorgeous graphics, serviceable gameplay, and way too bloated contents. If people are having fun, let them have fun.
What I started was saying the canon mode is not the solution for you to defend all the woke shits forced in the game.
Heisenberg007
Gold Journalism
LectureMaster
Has Man Musk
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
But the disclaimers have been there since the first game in the franchise.
Did you think an assassin fist fighting the pope in the vatican over an alien artifact is also based on historical accuracy?
Is George Washington turning into an evil dictator part of the US historical books?
Why is there so much selective picking and choosing which aspects of history to champion in this game's case?
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People have been saying that it's a player choice, just like with Odyssey and Valhalla since before the knowledge that the game has a Canon mode option in it.
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You obviously haven’t seen the AI George Floyd Samurai images people have been trolling the game with, even in the OT:
Topher
Identifies as young
That's got jack shit to do with what he said and you know it.
LectureMaster
Has Man Musk
Because alienfact or Tranny Washington serve as fundamental settings/themes/narratives.
Yasuke being gay adds absolutely zero benefits to the game's theme or narratives. And moreover, the gay romances are so fucking cringly written it's unbearable. You know why people don't have problem (or for me even I like) the gay romance in ME or old DA? Because they were well written.
Come on now my man , if anyone, it is you ignoring all the context, dare I say "nuances".
I was not against, player choice, you can choose whether to engage or not the optional contents. My point was if you use canon mode to get rid of the gay romance, you also lose all the other optional events.
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Bumblebeetuna
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Bumblebeetuna
Member
A more apt analogy would be “I know dog shit is an option here but only if I want it. I selected everything leading to dog shit and now I am going to throw a fit that they served me dog shit”.
Irishonion
Member
It's annoying because while it may be in your face for the first 20 minutes of the game, it's incredibly easy to ignore for the rest of the game.
If it's anything like Odyssey(Same dev) you get more resources as you level up. I literally just finished platinum run of Odyssey last week. I looked at the shop on my second day of playing, then a week later I had more resources than I knew what to do with.
But you will never convince people that are looking for things like that and create a narrative that it detracts from the game.
Is it bad to have a shop to have a shop in a full price single player game? Probably, honestly no defense, but is it also not a big deal at the same time, and super easy to ignore? Absolutely.
It’s what people use in comments to X posts. I’ll let you figure out who they’re replying to.woketards
Please tell me your ten year old son came up with that
semiconscious
Member
is you is or is you not a playa?...
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Good news, you don't have to make Yasuke gay if you don't want to. Nor is the game's setting / theme or narrative dependent on it.
Problem solved.
You don't lose all other optional events, whoever told you that is not completely accurate.
Bumblebeetuna
Member
LectureMaster
Has Man Musk
You are spinning the argument yet again. You were arguing if we had eden apple or Washington, why can't we have gay Yasuke.
My point was Yasuke being gay adds no benefit to the game, or even just make sense; it is clearly there to pander the modern audience, which almost won't help the game's sales figure at all.
Canon and Immersive Mode Explained - Assassin's Creed Shadows Guide - IGN
When starting a new game in Assassin's Creed Shadows, you'll be prompted with several game setup options ranging from your difficulty setting to
Funny how Mass Effect 1-3, AC Odyssey, AC Valhalla, and KCD2 weren’t pandering when they had the same optional romance options.
LectureMaster
Has Man Musk
You are just a joker, I have answered you this question you attacked me with racist accusation. And now you come back with the same lame argument.
All the games you mentioned are fictional characters.
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LectureMaster
Has Man Musk
Am I doing this right? Be careful reaching, don’t hurt yourself
Represent.
Represent(ative) of bad opinions
sounds kinda like jesus
BlitzerRadic
Member
Plenty of things in video games dont make sense and its only purpose is to pander. You only complaining because you're not being pandered to in this particular instance.
Blitzkrieg!
Member
Isn’t the fact that it’s being outsold by game that sells 2-3 million copies per year cause for concern? What am I missing?#1 selling Pro Enhanced game, #2 overall game on US PSN.
It’s MLB opening week in the US. This is the only time the Show get this sort of attention.
Blitzkrieg!
Member
How is that different from any other game launch?
Jigsaah
Gold Member
Ok...just real quick...i played the tutorial but had to get back to work. Some thoughts
- Combat is pretty simplistic and strangely stiff...I hope the enemies get tougher in ways that just require more skill.
- Naoe feels way better to play, Just personal preference
- The stories are actually pretty good so far.
- I felt similarly about Avowed in the early hours regarding the story.
I'll edit this as I get into the game more this weekend.
Edit:
So after a weekend of playing on and off...I'm apparently having some issues with my PC. Or it might be the game itself. Every 20 minutes or so, the game just crashes. No error message, no blue screen of death. It just stops. I tried lowering the resolution thinking maybe the game is somehow overheating my gpu or something but I wasn't able to really get into it due to this. Researching this issue, it seems this could be a problem unique to the Ubisoft+ version of the game....strange. Suggested solution was to sync your clock, which I did, but didn't really help in my case. Others reported that it did help.
- I really like playing as Naoe.
- Upgrade tree looks interesting, but reminds me a lot of Ghost of Tsushima...not a bad thing.
- I like that you can be outleveled and still win if you have the skill to fight off multiple enemies. Experienced the first "boss" fight. Just a bigger enemy with more health and armor. But hey, it's the first boss, didn't expect much, didn't get much. The hideaway seems cool. Only got to build a couple of buildings but I like that they give perks to help out in the world.
- Being that the last AC I played was Odyssey, the character models in Shadows look way worse. I'm pretty sure Unity's models looked better. What happened?
- I do like how the ninjas seem to be historically accurate in their nature. Not some mystical being using ninpo (a la Ninja Gaiden), but were villagers and farmers who used hit and run and ambush tactics to take down samurai.
- Overall, it's a decent game so far. I'm not blown away or anything like I was with Odyssey. Still a lot to discover, so I'll keep playing.
- Combat is pretty simplistic and strangely stiff...I hope the enemies get tougher in ways that just require more skill.
- Naoe feels way better to play, Just personal preference
- The stories are actually pretty good so far.
- I felt similarly about Avowed in the early hours regarding the story.
I'll edit this as I get into the game more this weekend.
Edit:
So after a weekend of playing on and off...I'm apparently having some issues with my PC. Or it might be the game itself. Every 20 minutes or so, the game just crashes. No error message, no blue screen of death. It just stops. I tried lowering the resolution thinking maybe the game is somehow overheating my gpu or something but I wasn't able to really get into it due to this. Researching this issue, it seems this could be a problem unique to the Ubisoft+ version of the game....strange. Suggested solution was to sync your clock, which I did, but didn't really help in my case. Others reported that it did help.
- I really like playing as Naoe.
- Upgrade tree looks interesting, but reminds me a lot of Ghost of Tsushima...not a bad thing.
- I like that you can be outleveled and still win if you have the skill to fight off multiple enemies. Experienced the first "boss" fight. Just a bigger enemy with more health and armor. But hey, it's the first boss, didn't expect much, didn't get much. The hideaway seems cool. Only got to build a couple of buildings but I like that they give perks to help out in the world.
- Being that the last AC I played was Odyssey, the character models in Shadows look way worse. I'm pretty sure Unity's models looked better. What happened?
- I do like how the ninjas seem to be historically accurate in their nature. Not some mystical being using ninpo (a la Ninja Gaiden), but were villagers and farmers who used hit and run and ambush tactics to take down samurai.
- Overall, it's a decent game so far. I'm not blown away or anything like I was with Odyssey. Still a lot to discover, so I'll keep playing.
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Gaiff
SBI’s Resident Gaslighter
It's a baseball game in the US store. It's the only place where it sells so much. People in Europe don't give a fuck about baseball.
The Show has been out for a week (two weeks for the deluxe), and was outsold by the Deluxe Shadows pre-order. Baseball starting in the US gives it a boost. Madden does the same thing as does 2K.