Assassin's Creed Shadows officially has surpassed the launches of AC Origins and AC Odyssey according to UbiSoft

Humdinger

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The great thing is that with this line you could be talking about M ManaByte GHG GHG @LectureMaster me or even yourself 🤭

To an outlier normal person, all of us are on an unhinged crusade over a fucking video-game over bullshit that might not be worth fighting for. But here we are.

;p

I'm surprised by how much controversy is swirling around this game. I guess it must be the combination of culture war issues and Ubisoft's fate hanging in the balance.

I hook into some game controversies, but not this one. I really don't care whether it succeeds or fails. I think I'm getting controversy fatigue.
 
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GHG

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Off topic : Say what you want about the users in here but thank the heavens the mod team actually does a good job in weeding out all the insufferable, preachy, holier than thou and disingenuous posters in here, Manabyte gas been literally one of the most cancerous posters in here lately.

Also : lol Bumblebeetuna Bumblebeetuna repeating his "little buddy" bullshit as to rile up others after backpedalling about 10 times.
Again, like most of these people, self awareness = zero.

And this is exactly the problem in here : 5-7 users (at most) trying to bring the whole place down with their insufferable nonsense - it's dog eat dog each and every day with them with a heavy dose of preaching and pesudo-politics sprinkled in.

I really dont know how we got here lads, a jab and/or a joke here and there are OK, the bullshit some specific games bring out of people though is just horrible, it's "woke" this, "chud" that, racism accusations, constant back and forth, constant whining and general pettiness - there's about 3 topics about this fucking slop of a game and in each and every one of them it's the same exact shit, why ?

Jesus Christ, the things people do over a product made by a multi-billion company (and a preachy one at that), I'd be laughing if it wasn't for the fact that it's actually sad.

Let's just all chill the fuck out 'cause it's been pretty hard visiting and trying to read the forums these past few days.
Maybe some people don't get it but everyone is allowed his/her own opinion, let's just try not to be fucking assholes about it with the c.o n s t a n t accusations 'cause frankly, shit has ran its course.

Cheers

I absolutely love how you received that customary laughing emoji for this post.

As you said, self awareness = zero.
 

Kacho

Gold Member
;p

I'm surprised by how much controversy is swirling around this game. I guess it must be the combination of culture war issues and Ubisoft's fate hanging in the balance.

I hook into some game controversies, but not this one. I really don't care whether it succeeds or fails. I think I'm getting controversy fatigue.
This was the last big one. South of Midnight is next month, but that will be more of a point and laugh situation.
 
Gay black samurai is not woke lmao

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You made me spill my tea dammit what the fak
 
Revealing my ass, always in the end spew out the "straight white male" craps right? Sorry I am Asian and I could care less about it, all I care is the settings and narrative are self consistent. As GHG GHG pointed out there whole inclusion thing is contradictory and all you do spin and wallow on the ground.
In the creative writing world this is called 'Verisimilitude' its writing 101 and even a low tier basic ass writer needs to learn it to write a legible story. The fact that it doesn't exist in a billion dollar company's flagship title is telling of either hyper incompetence or external forces at play....
 

Sentenza

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Funny cause 8500+ reviews from people who paid $70 on Steam say it is "Very Good".
People who buy Assassin's Creed games tend to like Assassin's Creed games. SHOCKING.

Also, Steam reviews don't come with a score attached. What you mean is that in aggregation 81% of them are a thumb up (positive).
 
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DenchDeckard

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I'm enjoying the game. Feels like they have tried to go to for some kind of lady snowblood vibes. You get the 70s/80s music going.

Still. I'm already getting bored a little of the AC formula. I'm actually enjoying thw flashbacks and story stuff but there's so much riding to the next tower and the game looks dauntingly huge.

I'd say it's a 7 out of ten game so far pushed to an 8 for technical reasons on pc. I'm in awe at how ridiculously amazing it can look.

I'll play it for as long as it holds my attention. Got plenty of games to play.

Luckily I haven't really seen any woke stuff yet. It's just ass creed Japan so far.
 
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seething left

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People who buy Assassin's Creed games tend to like Assassin's Creed games. SHOCKING.
Its rather people who have spent 70$ probably have difficulties to admit to themselves that they spent it on a shitty game. Imagine having to process the thought "man, I just wasted 70$ on shit, I must be a dumbass". So you just put that thumbs up there, tell everyone it's a gorgeous game and live in peace.

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nemiroff

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Its rather people who have spent 70$ probably have difficulties to admit to themselves that they spent it on a shitty game. Imagine having to process the thought "man, I just wasted 70$ on shit, I must be a dumbass". So you just put that thumbs up there, tell everyone it's a gorgeous game and live in peace.

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Is calling people idiots for enjoying a videogame really necessary, the fuck is this patronizing dogshit.
 

DavidGzz

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Its rather people who have spent 70$ probably have difficulties to admit to themselves that they spent it on a shitty game. Imagine having to process the thought "man, I just wasted 70$ on shit, I must be a dumbass". So you just put that thumbs up there, tell everyone it's a gorgeous game and live in peace.

Same can be said of any game. Until you play it, you're just parroting the hate that you all want to feel toward it because of Yasuke. I'll believe gamers who've actually played it over conspiracy theorists who haven't. That image you posted could also be accurate with "We lub Asmongold and want to laugh with the roach king so we hate it when we have zero experience with it." That is being more of a mindless drone than what you came up with.
 

DenchDeckard

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Its rather people who have spent 70$ probably have difficulties to admit to themselves that they spent it on a shitty game. Imagine having to process the thought "man, I just wasted 70$ on shit, I must be a dumbass". So you just put that thumbs up there, tell everyone it's a gorgeous game and live in peace.

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I am genuinely enjoying it, I bought it for the technical aspect anyway so just enjoying running around with Bae.

Its a good assassins creed game and thats all i expected.
 

seething left

Neo Member
I am genuinely enjoying it, I bought it for the technical aspect anyway so just enjoying running around with Bae.

Its a good assassins creed game and thats all i expected.
I'm glad to hear that. I'm not arguing that people can't genuinely enjoy their purchases, only that after spending resources on something they'd rather put something in a positive light, even if only to protect themselves from the inner critic.
 

DenchDeckard

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I'm glad to hear that. I'm not arguing that people can't genuinely enjoy their purchases, only that after spending resources on something they'd rather put something in a positive light, even if only to protect themselves from the inner critic.

I get it. I purchased with wanting a big AAA tech demo and its delivering on that so Im all good. Plus I dont buy half as many games as I used to so I dont mind laying down £50 quid on a key every now and again.
 
Does anyone know the reason why ManaByte got perm? A 2004 account perm, it must be quite serious?
I didn't see the incident but sucking the oxygen out of every thread defending billion dollar companies was getting tiresome to me.

Ignoring the culture war, I'm open to my mind being changed that this game is actually good. From everything I've seen it's just another Ubisoft game in a different coat of paint, complete with braindead ai, hammy writing and a predatory store where you can pay to save time grinding.
 

lifa-cobex

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I didn't see the incident but sucking the oxygen out of every thread defending billion dollar companies was getting tiresome to me.

Ignoring the culture war, I'm open to my mind being changed that this game is actually good. From everything I've seen it's just another Ubisoft game in a different coat of paint, complete with braindead ai, hammy writing and a predatory store where you can pay to save time grinding.
I think it was Assassin's creed odyssey where you hit a certain point in the game and (edited) incentivized you to pay for an XP boost.

You leveld up throught the story until you could no longer continue with the story until you reached a higher level.
No other missions were avalible to you so you literally had to grind up (taking however long it took) or pay to get an XP boost.

Culture war BS aside. These are the reasons I hate Ubisoft. Fuck um.


In my playthrough, playing on Normal difficulty, it took me probably around 50 hours to reach the max level of 50 in Odyssey. Unlike other games, Odyssey does not “begin” once you hit max level, but rather it’s very clearly winding down at that point, with not much to do on the map after that besides hunt down rogue question marks. But hitting 50 is pretty much necessary to fully complete the story, which is unusual for a game to demand this much time to beat the main plotline. Often times you will see sprawling open world games take maybe 15-20 hours to beat the main story and then maybe 50-80 if you want to clear all other sidequests and activities.

But Odyssey requires you to hit at least around level 45 to complete the Athens/Sparta war and family reunion storylines, the dismantling the central cult of the game pretty much does require you to be max level, as most of the final cult members are all level 50 themselves.


So is the pacing bad in Odyssey? It’s complicated.

To hit 50, you will have to not only do all the main story missions, but also probably 90% of the side missions on the map, in addition to clearing a solid chunk of landmarks. The good news is that this usually does not feel like “busywork,” given that Odyssey’s sidequests are usually very good, and many of them are just as involved, if not more so, than many main storyline quests, a-la-The Witcher. The bad news is that even if that is the case, it still takes you a massive amount of time to hit 50 and beat the story, which some players may dislike.


To me, this 50 hour “grind” feels more like Ubisoft trying to make sure that players experience all the content they spent time making, all those involved sidequests and such, rather than herding players into the story to buy an XP boost to shave off 15-20 hours of leveling time. First of all, is it really “herding” people to a store when I played for 60 hours and didn’t visit the store once? I didn’t even know how to find it (you have to hit a D-pad button in the menu to even get to it, which I never realized), and I had to look up all these different microtransactions to even write this article, so I don’t think Ubisoft is being particularly pushy here, despite the fact that these boosts exist.
 
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MMaRsu

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I think it was Assassin's creed odyssey where you hit a certain point in the game and basically had to pay to proceed.

You leveld up throught the story until you could no longer continue with the story until you reached a higher level.
No other missions were avalible to you so you literally had to grind up (taking however long it took) or pay to get an XP boost.
This is simply untrue. No games do this, and neither do Ubisoft games.
 

Topher

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I think it was Assassin's creed odyssey where you hit a certain point in the game and basically had to pay to proceed.

You leveld up throught the story until you could no longer continue with the story until you reached a higher level.
No other missions were avalible to you so you literally had to grind up (taking however long it took) or pay to get an XP boost.

Culture war BS aside. These are the reasons I hate Ubisoft. Fuck um.


I platinumed Odyssey when they released the 60fps patch and I did not have to pay a dime to "proceed".
 
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damidu

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Its rather people who have spent 70$ probably have difficulties to admit to themselves that they spent it on a shitty game. Imagine having to process the thought "man, I just wasted 70$ on shit, I must be a dumbass". So you just put that thumbs up there, tell everyone it's a gorgeous game and live in peace.
lol every game on steam should have "very good" reviews by this retarded logic.
 

Humdinger

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Yeah, people don't have much difficulty posting negative reviews of a game they don't like. In fact, it's well established that people who are upset with a product are more likely to post a negative review, not less.

That poster overestimated the cognitive dissonance. It's not like they're sitting there thinking, "Oh no, I paid $70, and I don't like the game. I must be an idiot! I've got to somehow convince myself that I like the game, in order to preserve my self-esteem." Most people aren't that insecure. If they're unhappy about a game, they're likely to blame the game, not themselves.
 
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Bond007

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All the controversy over what? LOL Crazy to see.
I play what i like- i don't get butthurt over disliking companies or this or that. EA yesterday today its Ubisoft.

Shadow is pretty good- better than i thought actually considering i haven't really enjoyed one in a long time. Not because people tell me- but because i've grown tired of the same formula. I wager most people complaining havent played it.
 

StereoVsn

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I platinumed Odyssey when they released the 60fps patch and I did not have to pay a dime to "proceed".
I think Ubi tweaked that experience curve to the point you either had to play vast majority of side quests to clear the game at higher difficulties. Or you could buy various upgrades in their shop.

Since you Platinumed the game you probably played sufficient amount to not having to grind.

I didn’t feel like doing that so I elected to use a cheat table instead. Normally Open World game have a central storyline where you can blast through in like 1/2 to 1/3 of 100% time, Odyssey wasn’t one of these games unless you cheat on PC or use Ubi currency.
 
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Rivdoric

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Imagine people playing games on the biggest digital storefront for videos games on the planet.

I'm not taking any side but just my personal example with more than 2500 games owned on Steam.
I buy all my ubisoft games on ubisoft connect because Steam requires connect to launch anyway which forces ppl to have 2 launchers each time they want to play a ubicrap game.
Same goes for EA Play.

For these 2, i check if the game requires background use of their launcher and if yes, then i get it on their platform (for cheap on sale ofc).
 
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Kazdane

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I'm not taking any side but just my personal example with more than 2500 games owned on Steam.
I buy all my ubisoft games on ubisoft connect because Steam requires connect to launch anyway which forces ppl to have 2 launchers each time they want to play a ubicrap game.
Same goes for EA Play.

For these 2, i check if the game requires background use of their launcher and if yes, then i get it on their platform (for cheap on sale ofc).
This is literally my case too, and I also have a large library on Steam (over 1000 games and counting). If the game I want to play needs another launcher, I'll get it there regardless. And if it's available through a subscription service, I'll do so, buying it at a later date on that same platform (which is what I did with Valhalla, Mirage was the exception as it was cheaper and I simply bought it).
 
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