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BAD YEAR

Stop playing Starfield then

Only a bad year if you only game on Xbox, so many big titles absent this year.

For PS5 (and to a lesser extent PC) players it’s been the best year of the generation, so many great titles, especially coming out of Japan and the rest of Asia.

I’ll forgive Nintendo for a quiet 2024, they’re about to unleash in 2025.
 
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Bad year no, but one of the best? Also no. Personally I don’t give a rats ass about most of those games and will never play them, but that doesn’t change that they exist.

But who is saying bad? Is this another one of those weird twitter/YT “influencer” things GAF is trying to paint as a real thing?
 

TheDarkPhantom

Gold Member
How is this year considered bad and not one of the best year gaming?

Because many on this forum have become cynical cunts who've lost their love of gaming and spend most of their time running their mouth talking shit instead of actually buying and playing the fantastic games being released, mystery solved 👍

It has been an exceptional year, games I've bought, almost all of them day 1 except for System Shock and Dragon's Dogma 2:

Prince of Persia
Tekken 8
Helldivers 2
Tomb Raiders 1-3 Remastered
Infinite Wealth
FFVII Rebirth
Unicorn Overlord
Rise of the Ronin
Stellar Blade
Dragon's Dogma 2
Darkest Dungeon 2
Kunitsu-Gami
Wukong
Astrobot
System Shock
Space Marine 2
Silent Hill 2
Metaphor

Looking at the rest of 2024 I'm interested in Dragon Quest III, Lego Horizons, Soul Reaver remaster and Neva. If you're not satisfied with what's on offer this year then maybe you need a new hobby, clearly gaming isn't doing it for you anymore 🤷🏻‍♂️

Edit: forgot Shadow of the Erdtree which may as well be GOTY if it wasn't DLC (Astrobot is my GOTY).

Edit 2: forgot I want to pick up Sparking Zero too 👌
 
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The Cockatrice

I'm retarded?
Rise of Ronin
Black Myth: Wukong
Space Marine 2
Kunitsu Gami
Dead Rising Remaster
Helldivers 2
DB: Sparkling Zero
Indika
Stellar Blade
ER: Shadow of the Erdtree
Astro Bot
Final Fantasy VII REBIRTH
Metaphor Refantazio
TLOU PII Remastered
Tekken 8
Infinite Wealth
Dragons Dogma 2
Animal Well
Silent Hill 2 Remake
Prince of Persia: The Lost Crown
D4: Vessel of Hatred
Unicorn Overlod

And Cod BO 6, Splitterhead, Life is Strange Double Exposure and Lego Horizon are on their way.

How is this year considered bad and not one of the best year gaming? I baffled by the narrative of there is nothing to play. Like, how? Aspecially on ps5. I cant even keep up with whats coming.

There are a lot of complaints about this generation but i dont know gaf, this gen may be mine fav in the end.

What do you guys think?

PS5 exclusives wise its a shit year. As a PC gamer its mid. Out of those only good ones i played are Infinite Wealth, Metaphor, SH2 aaand thats ut. I didnt like Wukong, i hated Shadow of the Erdtree, etc.

Theres still dragon age, stalker 2 and indiana jones as big games go, so if these 3 are good then ill change the year to ok.
 

StueyDuck

Member
PS5 exclusives wise its a shit year. As a PC gamer its mid. Out of those only good ones i played are Infinite Wealth, Metaphor, SH2 aaand thats ut. I didnt like Wukong, i hated Shadow of the Erdtree, etc.

Theres still dragon age, stalker 2 and indiana jones as big games go, so if these 3 are good then ill change the year to ok.
stalker 2 is my holdout, if they can bring what they envisioned to the first game it's gonna blow away the competition, but that's also part of my reservation for getting too excited, I'm worried it's gonna be a little bit too modernised in design.

metro exodus is my least favorite in the trilogy for exactly that reason. (yes different games, but i mean the way they tried to implement these "wide-linear" areas like Gears and Uncharted were doing with their games)
 
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PS5 exclusives wise its a shit year. As a PC gamer its mid. Out of those only good ones i played are Infinite Wealth, Metaphor, SH2 aaand thats ut. I didnt like Wukong, i hated Shadow of the Erdtree, etc.

Theres still dragon age, stalker 2 and indiana jones as big games go, so if these 3 are good then ill change the year to ok.

Astro Bot and Final Fantasy Rebirth are 2 of the best games this year and the generation. I’ll take that
 
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StueyDuck

Member
There's exactly 3 remakes in a list of 2 dozen games, 4 if you include rebirth and you shouldn't because it's completely unlike the original. Maybe go to the bathroom once in a while, being constantly full of shit must be uncomfortable.
i don't consider it on the list because i know it's not like the original, just like i don't with SH2 either, and i did say sequels also. but lets pretend i didn't because that wouldn't suit your narrative would it.

do tell me how tekken 8 and infinite wealth are these incredible sequels that shake up the formula so much that i just have to go out and buy them today?

a game can be good, that doesn't make it a "great year in gaming". Playing tekken 8 when i already have tekken 1-7 + TT 1 and 2 doesn't make this an incredible year.

playing the last of us part 2 again doesn't make this a great year.

But if you enjoy doing the same thing over and over then more power to you, i just get bored with that.

I think for now you should worry about your own bowel movements, people who tend to consume and not think sometimes forget to make potty.
 
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midnightAI

Member
Aren’t there high profile bombs every year?
About xbox, I don’t know. I sold my series console last year so at this point i honestly can not comprehend why anyone would play on xbox exclusively


Yo, you have get in on silent hill 2, dragons Dogma 2 and Shadow of the Erdtree. Some of the finest games ever made
Not too many first party ones, no, not really

I also think for many it is the lack of first party heavy hitters (on the PlayStation side at least, but we do have Astro (that's hardly one of their major franchises though, possibly now it will be considered one due to it's success) and I expect a good few within the next 2-3 years)
 

Aion002

Member
For me it has been an amazing year games wise... But yeah.... Opinions...

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The Cockatrice

I'm retarded?
Astro Bot and Final Fantasy Rebirth are 2 of the best games this year and the generation. I’ll take that
Cute platformers aint my thing, ffrebirth will also be on pc but im waiting for the final one before playing them all and stellar blade still waiting on a sale but i reckon itll drop on pc before sony gives it a sale...
 

RoboFu

One of the green rats
Nah most of those games are not great. It's not a horrible year but not the best by far.
 

GHG

Member
He was probably talking about first parties.

In which case I'd agree, but the two games that he's said he wants to buy are PS5 exclusive and have been all year.

Any year can be a "bad year" if you just decide to not buy or play the better games that have come out.
 
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StueyDuck

Member
The number of games/dlc with score 90+ for each recent year:
2024 - 16 (and year not finished yet)
2023 - 17
2022 - 8
2021 - 2
2020 - 10
2019 - 7
2018 - 12

Lots of really good games came out this year
yeah, review scores don't really mean much to me.

and also I'm not saying there isn't good or great games this year. I am saying that in regards to "Years of Gaming" nothing this year is special, unique or interesting and just creating a list of things to consume doesn't change that.

I promise you in 3 years no one will talk about 99% of the games on that list. Maybe Rebirth because of the sequel and that's about it.

But I've said it already, I'm not just a consumer by habit. I am not going to play a game just because it exists and i need more things to consume, I don't watch Netflix on my phone in all corners of my house.

I know I'm not the common gamer/person here, I'm someone who ducked from Dota and Cod many many years ago because doing the same thing over and over was a waste of life, i'd rather work on something or expand a skillset in that scenario.
 
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It absolutely wasn't a bad year, it had a lot of good games.

Now, if you ask me how many of these will be remembered in 5-10 years?

Hmm maybe Metaphor? STALKER 2 if it ends up being good? Rebirth? but it might not be the best from the trilogy. Path of Exile 2 probably too

When you list the best games from years like 2004, 2005, 2006, 2007 whatever, you normally don't list good games, but the games that are remembered for decades, and yes 2024 lacked some of these.

But yes it was a good year, just finished SH2 and i'll probably move to Metaphor, and then into STALKER 2 and then PoE2, for me at least the best is yet to come, so it could end up being very good even
 

Danjin44

The nicest person on this forum
I said this before in other threads but if you can’t single game to enjoy this year then no offence it’s time to look for different hobby.
 

SweetTooth

Gold Member
I’ll forgive Nintendo for a quiet 2024, they’re about to unleash in 2025

Nintendo gets a pass on lots of things, they should be treated like the others honestly.

Lacking basic online functions.. its ok we have Mario.

Low powered HW...its ok we have Zelda

Games running like sh*t... its ok, look how portable!

They are among the big three in this industry and should be treated like the others with the same standards of criticism! but who am I kidding? They are media darlings and will forever be treated differently.
 

StueyDuck

Member
It absolutely wasn't a bad year, it had a lot of good games.

Now, if you ask me how many of these will be remembered in 5-10 years?

Hmm maybe Metaphor? STALKER 2 if it ends up being good? Rebirth? but it might not be the best from the trilogy. Path of Exile 2 probably too

When you list the best games from years like 2004, 2005, 2006, 2007 whatever, you normally don't list good games, but the games that are remembered for decades, and yes 2024 lacked some of these.

But yes it was a good year, just finished SH2 and i'll probably move to Metaphor, and then into STALKER 2 and then PoE2, for me at least the best is yet to come, so it could end up being very good even
^this is essentially where I am too.
 

plip.plop

Member
PS5 exclusives wise its a shit year. As a PC gamer its mid. Out of those only good ones i played are Infinite Wealth, Metaphor, SH2 aaand thats ut. I didnt like Wukong, i hated Shadow of the Erdtree, etc.

Theres still dragon age, stalker 2 and indiana jones as big games go, so if these 3 are good then ill change the year to ok.
This was where that absurd statement came from. People were referring to Sony's 1st party output in terms of no games. This is why that same statement was always made against MS. In Sony's defense looking at MS 1st party output this year in terms, was and still is shit. They have yet to get on track as well. 3rd party companies are the reason this year is pretty damn good.
 

Variahunter

Member
Third party exclusives are the reason I buy every Sony platform.

I couldn’t be bothered to buy most of their first party crap. Ghost of Tsushima was OK, and of course there’s Team Ico games.

Games I bought this year :
Rise of Ronin
Visions of Mana
Silent Hill 2 (PC but with the stutter I think it would have been better on PS5, even if it’s still ok and the game itself is stellar)
Dragons Dogma 2
Crow Country


Games I will buy later on PC :
Black Myth: Wukong
Space Marine 2
Stellar Blade (when it’s announced at a discount)
ER: Shadow of the Erdtree
Final Fantasy VII REBIRTH (when the full compilation will be released)

Maybe :
Tekken 8
Unicorn Overlord
Granblue Fantasy (OP missing this console exclusive)
Stalker 2

I already have my hands full.

Those saying it’s a bad year either have poor taste in gaming or are playing on Xbox (even then there’s plenty of third party on it), or a combination of both.
 

Felessan

Member
yeah, review scores don't really mean much to me.

I promise you in 3 years no one will talk about 99% of the games on that list. Maybe Rebirth because of the sequel and that's about it.
You don't like a year doesn't make it bad. As I said - Xbox fans do have a reason to be salty as for them year was mostly unimpressive, though they still get some good games.

As for what games will be remembered in several years - Astrobot, FF7R2, Metaphor, Stellar Blade, Wukong - all will be remembered as their impact are not small
 

StueyDuck

Member
You don't like a year doesn't make it bad. As I said - Xbox fans do have a reason to be salty as for them year was mostly unimpressive, though they still get some good games.

As for what games will be remembered in several years - Astrobot, FF7R2, Metaphor, Stellar Blade, Wukong - all will be remembered as their impact are not small
where did i say it was bad

i don't think stellar blade impact is gonna have the same lasting effect as a portal 2 or a GTA 3 but if that's what you believe then we'll see.

to me it was just fan-service Nier. (again, more of stuff we've already had)
 
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The Cockatrice

I'm retarded?
You previously said its been a shit year for PS5 exclusives. So why are you looking to buy them?

What them? I only want Stellar Blade and by want I mean just so my PS doesnt die from dust. If I really wanted it I wouldve bought it day one. So 2 exclusives, how is that anything but shit?
 

GHG

Member
What them? I only want Stellar Blade and by want I mean just so my PS doesnt die from dust. If I really wanted it I wouldve bought it day one. So 2 exclusives, how is that anything but shit?

You're not making any sense.

You either want to buy a game to play it, or you don't. Nobody buys a game just so hardware "doesn't die from dust". If you don't want or need hardware based on the games that are on the system you're better off just selling it.

Joey Bosa Video GIF
 

The Cockatrice

I'm retarded?
You're not making any sense.

You either want to buy a game to play it, or you don't. Nobody buys a game just so hardware "doesn't die from dust". If you don't want or need hardware based on the games that are on the system you're better off just selling it.

Joey Bosa Video GIF

Since when is life only about wanting and not wanting. Yes, that is exactly how it is and as I said. It's not a game im dying to buy or play but I am still somewhat interested. How is that so complicated? The selling part is petty of you and you know it.
 
Rise of Ronin
Black Myth: Wukong
Space Marine 2
Kunitsu Gami
Dead Rising Remaster
Helldivers 2
DB: Sparkling Zero
Indika
Stellar Blade
ER: Shadow of the Erdtree
Astro Bot
Final Fantasy VII REBIRTH
Metaphor Refantazio
TLOU PII Remastered
Tekken 8
Infinite Wealth
Dragons Dogma 2
Animal Well
Silent Hill 2 Remake
Prince of Persia: The Lost Crown
D4: Vessel of Hatred
Unicorn Overlod

And Cod BO 6, Splitterhead, Life is Strange Double Exposure and Lego Horizon are on their way.

How is this year considered bad and not one of the best year gaming? I baffled by the narrative of there is nothing to play. Like, how? Aspecially on ps5. I cant even keep up with whats coming.

There are a lot of complaints about this generation but i dont know gaf, this gen may be mine fav in the end.

What do you guys think?
Honestly I agree. I've played plenty of fucking great games on PS5 this year and last.
 
A lot of good to very good games, but zero generational games. There is no Baldurs Gate, GOW, Elden Ring, Zelda ect. Its pretty much all smaller AAA games

2025 has 6-7 games that are bigger than anything that came out this year, other than COD and sports games

GTA 6
Resident Evil 9
Death Stranding 2
Fable
Doom
Kingdom Come 2
Monster Hunter Wilds
Mafia 4
Borderlands 4
Assassins Creed
Marathon

And that is just what we know

2024 is extremely light on big budget AAA games
Should we really be expecting a "generational game" every year when we know how long these take to develop and how much effort has to go into them? Not trying to be a dick, genuine question here.
 

GHG

Member
Since when is life only about wanting and not wanting. Yes, that is exactly how it is and as I said. It's not a game im dying to buy or play but I am still somewhat interested. How is that so complicated? The selling part is petty of you and you know it.

When it comes to something as simple as playing a videogame, it is down to wanting or not wanting. It's your hobby so you get to decide how to spend your time doing it.

Regarding selling it, it's not petty if it's dying from dust.
 

The Cockatrice

I'm retarded?
When it comes to something as simple as playing a videogame, it is down to wanting or not wanting.

Unless youre EverydayBeast EverydayBeast a human robot, then yes. However if you are a normal human, things are a lot of times undecided/undecisive. Im glad your life is so simple that you can afford to say only yes or no, but my life aint so and I dont know why ure attacking me for it. You treated my feelings regarding 1st party exclusives which you also agreed with as a universal truth, which isnt. If some people thought its a good year for 1st party or not, cool for them. For me, even if we take Stellar Blade into consideration, its a shit year for PS5 blockbuster only.
 

GHG

Member
Unless youre EverydayBeast EverydayBeast a human robot, then yes. However if you are a normal human, things are a lot of times undecided/undecisive. Im glad your life is so simple that you can afford to say only yes or no, but my life aint so and I dont know why ure attacking me for it. You treated my feelings regarding 1st party exclusives which you also agreed with as a universal truth, which isnt. If some people thought its a good year for 1st party or not, cool for them. For me, even if we take Stellar Blade into consideration, its a shit year for PS5 blockbuster only.

Yes I did agree with you in that 1st party from playstation has been lacking, however looking at all the other games that have landed on the console which are not available on any other console (some of which coincidentally), it makes no sense to say that overall it's been a bad year for the PS5.

Saying "I enjoyed these games which are also on PS5 on PC, therefore PS5 had a bad year" also means people who don't have a PC but have a PS5 have been well serviced.

If we add PC (satisfactory and hades 2 say hello) and Nintendo's offerings in to the mix it makes even less sense to say it's been a bad year overall for gaming.

Playstations 1st party alone doesn't define a year, neither for the platform or for the industry as a whole.
 

The Cockatrice

I'm retarded?
it makes no sense to say that overall it's been a bad year for the PS5.

What do you mean it makes no sense? Its a bad year for me as a PC/PS5 user. Thats it. It makes sense for me. It makes no sense to disagree with my life lmao. I also never said it was a bad year for people who only game on PS5. Where the hell did u come up with that? Even if I take PC only into consideration, the year has been mid for me as I previously stated. Youre just attacking my opinion for no sense.
 

GHG

Member
What do you mean it makes no sense? Its a bad year for me as a PC/PS5 user. Thats it. It makes sense for me. It makes no sense to disagree with my life lmao. I also never said it was a bad year for people who only game on PS5. Where the hell did u come up with that? Even if I take PC only into consideration, the year has been mid for me as I previously stated. Youre just attacking my opinion for no sense.

I made it pretty clear I disagreed with the framing of your argument that this year has been bad, you also didn't originally specify that you meant playstation first party only when originally making your argument.

But fingers crossed dragon age veilguard saves the year for you.

Family Feud Lol GIF by Steve Harvey
 

The Cockatrice

I'm retarded?
you also didn't originally specify that you meant playstation first party only when originally making your argument.
PS5 exclusives wise its a shit year
Cat What GIF by truth


It seems pretty clear what I meant and ure just pissing in the wind. Did I shit in your coffee or what the hell is wrong with you?

But fingers crossed dragon age veilguard saves the year for you.

Ah I see, so ure just being an idiot for no reason. No idea why but carry on I guess.
 
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