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Bloodborne |OT+5| Grant Us Eyes!

I mean, I completed Demon's Souls and Dark Souls without too much of an effort now I'm constantly getting my ass handed to me and can't even get past those two fucking werewolves on the wall.

I guess I have some real learning and unlearning to do :|

Hit stuff, get free health.
 

V1LÆM

Gold Member
I mean, I completed Demon's Souls and Dark Souls without too much of an effort now I'm constantly getting my ass handed to me and can't even get past those two fucking werewolves on the wall.

I guess I have some real learning and unlearning to do :|

the wolves on the bridge at the start of the game? those made me give up because i just wouldn't run past them. they are tough for new players. just run past them until you level up a bit.

in no time you'll be killing them with ease.
 

BHK3

Banned
What if werewolves keep gang ganking me? :/ No matter how sneaky I try to lure the other for killing...

E: Oh, got 'em! I'm teh uber huntah.
You have to lure much more than ever before and learn to stagger. I never tried parrying in any souls game because its a buggy mechanic but you have to really get good at it here. Shoot a bullet at the face of an enemy in the middle or the start of their attack, walk up R1 and it'll do like 600 DMG. For human characters its better to attack them once or twice then just spam your gun. The AI is the same since demons souls where they run at you, run back and circle you for a bit before walking up to you again.

Be warned humans have guns and can do the same to you if you're not careful.
 

cj_iwakura

Member
Well hot damn. Beat
Laurence
on my first try. Never did that with a boss in BB until now (on each build I've run). Bowblade too damn stronk.



Your best bet for finding your echoes is hoping an enemy picked them up. Then you can just look for ol' blue eyes (the enemy that killed you isn't always the same one that picks them up). Otherwise yeah, Forbidden Woods is massive and it's very easy to get lost. :(



Probably my proudest achievement in BB. Fight was 11 minutes long but the patience paid off. Not having a serrated/long-reach/buff-ready weapon for that dude sucks

I am all kinds of lost in the current layer. Death. Death everywhere!
 
After I'm done with my plat run (which is basically just me fighting the seven necessary bosses on NG+ to get the Yharnam Sunrise ending), I'm thinking of doing a Skill build with a Reiterpallasch (Evelyn as sidearm). Is that a good idea?
 
After I'm done with my plat run (which is basically just me fighting the seven necessary bosses on NG+ to get the Yharnam Sunrise ending), I'm thinking of doing a Skill build with a Reiterpallasch (Evelyn as sidearm). Is that a good idea?

Eh, its a good combo but the evelyn scale with bloodtinge
 

Milijango

Member
After I'm done with my plat run (which is basically just me fighting the seven necessary bosses on NG+ to get the Yharnam Sunrise ending), I'm thinking of doing a Skill build with a Reiterpallasch (Evelyn as sidearm). Is that a good idea?

The Evelyn is virtually redundant because the Reiterpallasch deals more damage at any bloodtinge level (because it has three gem slots instead of just one). It might look cool though.
 

grmlin

Member
After I'm done with my plat run (which is basically just me fighting the seven necessary bosses on NG+ to get the Yharnam Sunrise ending), I'm thinking of doing a Skill build with a Reiterpallasch (Evelyn as sidearm). Is that a good idea?

I love the Reiterpallasch. If you're comfortable with your parries, it can be very fun.

Some bosses are a fucking pain though, as your weapon has no range.

I mean, I completed Demon's Souls and Dark Souls without too much of an effort now I'm constantly getting my ass handed to me and can't even get past those two fucking werewolves on the wall.

I guess I have some real learning and unlearning to do :|

If you don't care about a little cheese:
Backtrack down the stairs through the door into the dark house. They don't fit into it.
 

BHK3

Banned
Beat the game today, hate that I'm missing a few trophies because ENDING TALK
beating gherman without dark presence has to be done on its own, dark presences being its own trophy doesn't unlock ghermans trophy...as well as simply choosing to die is a separate trophy but that I understand at least

All that's left to do is NPC quests with a walkthrough and turns out I only missed 1 badge somewhere to get my final weapon. Since I'm on NG+ now I'm dreading the difficulty of the chalice dungeons, I was already getting one shot there last playthrough ;_;

I was really liking the story but it really went off the deep end after the
forbidden forest
. I watched a few videos but as usual with souls games it's all fanfic after a certain point, I was never privy about cosmic horror.
 

Milijango

Member
Beat the game today, hate that I'm missing a few trophies because ENDING TALK
beating gherman without dark presence has to be done on its own, dark presences being its own trophy doesn't unlock ghermans trophy...as well as simply choosing to die is a separate trophy but that I understand at least

All that's left to do is NPC quests with a walkthrough and turns out I only missed 1 badge somewhere to get my final weapon. Since I'm on NG+ now I'm dreading the difficulty of the chalice dungeons, I was already getting one shot there last playthrough ;_;

I was really liking the story but it really went off the deep end after the
forbidden forest
. I watched a few videos but as usual with souls games it's all fanfic after a certain point, I was never privy about cosmic horror.

Chalice dungeons don't change in difficulty with NG+
 
The Evelyn is virtually redundant because the Reiterpallasch deals more damage at any bloodtinge level (because it has three gem slots instead of just one). It might look cool though.

I was mostly using for the cool factor, since a real skill build is a proper gentleman with a top hat, monocle, and any of the student sets, Hunter set A, the knight set, the constable set, or Maria's set.
 

Hesemonni

Banned
Question: does it matter in a grand scheme of things if I don't kill the Gatling Guy in the tower due to...reasons.

You gotta love this gam: you are getting a grasp of thing and start feeling confident about your abilities. Suddenly they throw the Blood-starved Beast at you :/ Managed to get him down to ~25% health and died due to running out of antidotes.
 

Jombie

Member
Question: does it matter in a grand scheme of things if I don't kill the Gatling Guy in the tower due to...reasons.

You gotta love this gam: you are getting a grasp of thing and start feeling confident about your abilities. Suddenly they throw the Blood-starved Beast at you :/ Managed to get him down to ~25% health and died due to running out of antidotes.

You don't have to kill him.

As far as bsb, dodge to his left (you can literally walk) and he won't touch you. He has very few different attacks.
 
Question: does it matter in a grand scheme of things if I don't kill the Gatling Guy in the tower due to...reasons.
It doesn't matter at all story-wise. He gives you an item that unlocks a few things in the shop but you can get it off him by being friendly to him or killing him. I guess you'll miss out on his weapon and armour set too by not killing him.
 
Question: does it matter in a grand scheme of things if I don't kill the Gatling Guy in the tower due to...reasons.

You gotta love this gam: you are getting a grasp of thing and start feeling confident about your abilities. Suddenly they throw the Blood-starved Beast at you :/ Managed to get him down to ~25% health and died due to running out of antidotes.

No, you get extra dialogue from him if you befriend him rather than kill him.

BSB cant poison you until last phase or if you get hit by him, Dont use the antidote right away let the meter fill and use it when you are starting to lose a good bunch of health.

You cant be poisoned if you are already poisoned
 

BHK3

Banned
Question: does it matter in a grand scheme of things if I don't kill the Gatling Guy in the tower due to...reasons.

You gotta love this gam: you are getting a grasp of thing and start feeling confident about your abilities. Suddenly they throw the Blood-starved Beast at you :/ Managed to get him down to ~25% health and died due to running out of antidotes.

That's an actual character? How do you get to him without him whipping out the arm cannon? Do you just kill the BSB and come back to him and he won't shoot you?
 
That's an actual character? How do you get to him without him whipping out the arm cannon? Do you just kill the BSB and come back to him and he won't shoot you?

Beat Paarl after
you get abducted by the sack guys
, you unlock a shortcut to Old Yharman and climb the ladder
 
Grrr two weeks later Defiled poochy still making me his bitch

I could dig my own post from here from 2 months ago but I killed him attacking ONLY after one of the following attacks:

- lava puke
- charge

Never attacked after anything else. Dodged backwards to the left all the time waiting for these two attacks. It was a long fight, yes...
 

h0tp0ck3t

Member
I could dig my own post from here from 2 months ago but I killed him attacking ONLY after one of the following attacks:

- lava puke
- charge

Never attacked after anything else. Dodged backwards to the left all the time waiting for these two attacks. It was a long fight, yes...

LMAO ok from now on when I have trouble with a boss I'm gonna cry about it here. Twice now it's worked. Now onto Amygdala

more luck than skill for me since I kept trading agro with an NPC hunter

Edit: Also learning when he telegraphed the charge and the big aoe fire burst was huge
 
Watchdog is safe to attack after all of his swipes. Take a split second longer than you think to attack so that the animation finished and he only does one regular headswipe, if you go in too soon he will do another the other way. The forward head poke/wriggle is also a good one to get a couple of hits in as is the walk forward with flame bites/breath safe to attack just as it ends just walk backwards as he walks forwards.

Really the only thing you have to watch out for is not reading his charge in time, everything else is pretty methodically. I like these kind of Souls fights. Ebriatas is similar.
 

V1LÆM

Gold Member
Question: does it matter in a grand scheme of things if I don't kill the Gatling Guy in the tower due to...reasons.

You gotta love this gam: you are getting a grasp of thing and start feeling confident about your abilities. Suddenly they throw the Blood-starved Beast at you :/ Managed to get him down to ~25% health and died due to running out of antidotes.

nope. you can either kill him when you first meet him or befriend him at a later point. personally i just kill him because i hate him and that damn gun.

BSB for me was the most challenging boss in the game including DLC. Every other boss I beat 1st 2nd or 3rd try but BSB took me about 10 tries. I too ran out of antidotes/vials and other items so I ended up just buying the item that let me progress into Cathedral Ward and came back later to defeat it.
 

BHK3

Banned
I was really enjoying the chalice dungeons after you finish those terrible Phumterian ones. Then I got to an area where red spiders aggro to you through walls and they literally don't stop spawning. Turns out two bell witches were on the other side and there is no spawn limit to them, I had like 10 on screen at once and they still all gave souls. Great place to farm if they didn't kill you in 2 hits while having extreme reach. I really like the burial blade but god this reach is awful and I miss the slightly more speed my ludwig had. Lost 990k souls trying to beat that area...crushed my record of 300k souls. That was like 20 level ups too...got so sad I started doing story again but one little bitch ass monster gives me +400 souls compared to the 4k I get from the bitch ass monsters in the dungeon. Now I'm doing super BSB and wow this is impossible actually, I feel like back when I first tried the game a year ago and every boss was an exercise in frustration.
 

Dave_6

Member
I need to take a break from Horizon and get back to this for a couple nights. I last attempted to take on Rom and was quite unsuccessful. Any tips for that fight?
 

grmlin

Member
Basically you have two options.

1) Rush Rom with beast pallets and Lightning infusion to deal massive damage and kill him fast
2) take it slow, kill all the minions, circle Rom in the last phase to avoid the magic rain of death
 

cj_iwakura

Member
I'm a bit confused... how do I get to the Hypolean Gaol for the Old Yharnam shortcut without killing the BSB? Making the Snatchers appear requires killing the BSB, so this seems like a chicken-and-egg paradox...
 

BHK3

Banned
I'm a bit confused... how do I get to the Hypolean Gaol for the Old Yharnam shortcut without killing the BSB? Making the Snatchers appear requires killing the BSB, so this seems like a chicken-and-egg paradox...

You don't? Don't really understand, just go kill the BSB and die to a Snatcher, shortcut unlocked.
 
Started my new game character going for a SKL/BT build. Getting used to the whip was something different but its mostly working out.

This time I'm trying to help people a bit more but man ripping through Cleric and Gascgoine with 3 people is so satisfying. Having Gascy get almost perma stun locked from a flurry of attacks from the hammer, saw, and whip feels so right haha.
 

h0tp0ck3t

Member
DLC Spoilers: If I didn't talk to
Simon
in the Research Lab before
killing Maria
am I screwed out of the bowblade? Need it to cheese defiled Amygdala
 

cj_iwakura

Member
DLC Spoilers: If I didn't talk to
Simon
in the Research Lab before
killing Maria
am I screwed out of the bowblade? Need it to cheese defiled Amygdala

What happens to him, anyway? He's just gone after that, far as I know.

I just found out that I can actually get that one snarky guy to show up at the Cathedral Ward.
 
News to me. A bit of lore from something?

Simon entered the Hunters Nightmare to uncover the secrets of the Healing Church, Simon mentions it when you met him he is a fellow hunter but found the Nightmare being against the hunters ideal to protect the people of yharman and became suspicious of the church actions.

Ahh, yes, I see...
You sense a secret within the Nightmare,
And cannot bear to leave it be.
As if the spirit of Byrgenwerth lives on within you!
Such inquisitive hunters will relish the Nightmare.
But beware, secrets are secrets for a reason.
And some do not wish to see them uncovered.
Especially when the secrets are particularly unseemly...

When the player progress throught the DLC , Simons keeps mentioning you are close to unveils the secrets of the nightmare but after defeating Ludwig, the player meets Brador whose job is to hunt anyone who keep close to the astral tower.

"Bear in mind.

Some places are better left untouched, and some secrets are better left alone.

...only fools do brazenly roam..."

Anyone who hears his bell means Brador is hunting you. due the player actions Simon managed to pass throught the astral tower and the village but in the last moment Simon moves ahead of you being an easy prey of Brador and
Brador kills him
.

...Oh, you, I'm afraid, I've made a botch of things...
...I can hear the bell, now...
...The beast-hide assassin, he's after me...
...Again and again...
...It never ends...
...Please, I need you to do something...
...This village is the true secret.
Testament to the old sins...
...It feeds this Hunter's Nightmare...
...Please, bring to an end to the horror...
...So our forefathers sinned?
...We hunters cannot bear their weight forever...
...It isn't fair, it just isn't fair...

The player met Simon
for the last time before dying on his injures due brador invasion or already dead depending of how you reach the last zone
.

Simon
died before knowing the secret of the Nightmare and the main reason his fellow Old Hunters gave their lives and their sanity to protect the Church's great secret
 

Melchiah

Member
The player met Simon
for the last time before dying on his injures due brador invasion or already dead depending of how you reach the last zone
.

Never got the last dialogue in the two DLC runs. What are the conditions for it, and entering the area?
 
Never got the last dialogue in the two DLC runs. What are the conditions for it, and entering the area?

I never met Brador summons in the Village and just stumbled upon Simon there and got the dialogue.

I can't understand how one can miss Simon in the Village other that attacking him in the River of Blood.
 

Melchiah

Member
I never met Brador summons in the Village and just stumbled upon Simon there and got the dialogue.

I can't understand how one can miss Simon in the Village other that attacking him in the River of Blood.

To my recollection, the last time Simon appeared alive for me, was at the the entrance of Research Hall. I killed Brador in his cell on both runs, before he could invade elsewhere.
 
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