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[yogaflame]

I'm not sure how some folks are taking in the news but Trump's tariff policy right now has been incredibly successful with darn near everyone renegotiating their terms. We'll see if it continues on that way but I'm optimistic.

That is why it's more of media fear mongering and sensationalizing the news especially from leftist. Everything will be fine especially for gaming industry. Pres Trump and his team knows what they are doing, and other countries knows how to negotiate and they are aware that USA is a big market that they don't want to lose. And companies have strategies and they know how to negotiate tax incentives and putting more investments,
business and factories in USA. It is a win win situation for everyone.

 

[ShadowNinja]

I'm not sure how some folks are taking in the news but Trump's tariff policy right now has been incredibly successful with darn near everyone renegotiating their terms. We'll see if it continues on that way but I'm optimistic.

Some people live in bubbles i guess

Base 10% still in place in addition to 25% on steel and aluminum and 25% on autos and auto parts if not compliant under NAFTA.

Further 25% are being looked on for pharma and potentially computer chips.

Yeah and I've seen countless posts of other countries wanting to negotiate to 0. Canada, Vietnam, EU, etc

 

[StereoVsn]

Some people live in bubbles i guess

Yeah and I've seen countless posts of other countries wanting to negotiate to 0. Canada, Vietnam, EU, etc

I think some level of tariffs will stay. Trump and Republicans need some additional revenue to help pay for the tax cuts and they gutted the IRS which will lower money coming in.

 

[AJUMP23]

Hopefully your uncle doesn't beat you to it. Or your siblings have kids.

My uncles are too old. I would be a senior level Engineer on the floor. Learning all the secrets. And I would install bigger batteries in the one I take home.

 

[StereoVsn]

That is why it's more of media fear mongering and sensationalizing the news especially from leftist. Everything will be fine especially for gaming industry. Pres Trump and his team knows what they are doing, and other countries knows how to negotiate and they are aware that USA is a big market that they don't want to lose. And companies have strategies and they know how to negotiate tax incentives and putting more investments,
business and factories in USA. It is a win win situation for everyone.

The issue is chaos and loss of faith in US as a safe place for investment. Hence the fall in bonds and $. Foreign investment capital is outflowing and some of that is likely to be permanent.

US Securities also have a premium to other developed countries and that premium may be permanently affected.

 

[mckmas8808]

For now until the Orange Manchild has another fit

But at least DEI is gone, right?....

 

[Heisenberg007]

LMAO, way to spin this into a positive headline.

 

[Mr Reasonable]

Heaven forfend the sacred economy gets damaged. You know the one the US makes nothing and prints infinite money, and where no one under 40 can buy a house.

The world's wealth distribution is a real problem, but I don't think these tariffs are going to make that better.

 

[yogaflame]

The issue is chaos and loss of faith in US as a safe place for investment. Hence the fall in bonds and $. Foreign investment capital is outflowing and some of that is likely to be permanent.

US Securities also have a premium to other developed countries and that premium may be permanently affected.

I understand, but Pres Trump is just in his 4th month in his presidency and he and his team has more time to fix this issues you mentioned. It already feels like 2 years even just his 4th month. This strategy and economic policy right now are carefully studied for many years even before the campaign and they know what they are doing but it is a calculated risk and a bit of a gamble for change to happen especially bringing back jobs to USA. There are so many states that needs jobs right now in USA like Michigan, Pennsylvania, Arizona, San Francisco, etc.

Staying with the status quo and following the policies of WTO and GATT was bad for USA throughout the years and even for other countries. Because of the bad trade policies in the past, the USA lost allot of jobs, rising deficit, trade imbalance, and lost of income for USA, and worse China had taken advantage of the world trade policies and found away to skirt the rules.

Going back, I'm sure that gaming industry will be fine, and we might even see even bigger growth and better quality in the gaming industry.

 

[ValiantInstance]

The world's wealth distribution is a real problem, but I don't think these tariffs are going to make that better.

We're not all in this together. Countries will always be territorial and want what is best for themselves first.

 

[Kacho]

But at least DEI is gone, right?....

100%

 

[mckmas8808]

Me, nothing will happen.

Remind me 1 month. Remind me 1 year.

Hopefully this thread stays open and I can bump it unlike the one where I predicted the tariff bullshit was a nothingburger and nothing would change.

Can I just say an explanation here. This is not meant to be political. Half the US hates Trump and will do anything to make him look bad. So the news you see out of the US spelling doom and gloom, that is going to be happening regardless of what Trump does. Second thing is a little surprising to me, that people outside of the US don't really know how he operates. In the US we've seen this game situation play out amongst dozens of different topics over the last decade. Each time, people get driven into a panic over it and each time, nothing has happened of relevance. Politics are not actually meant to change things, but rather be a method of control What you are seeing is the people who voted for trump, they are getting a show of force/power so they feel good and know that their vote changed things. However, time will pass and each cycle will swing back and forth making sure that all sides in the US have occasional satisfaction with their grand plans. These swings will get more wild and frightening for people outside the US because we have become very polarized and the more polarized we get the further the swing that will take place. Just remember that what you are seeing is our society's method of making each person believe they have a say in society and the day to day that we experience now will not even be remembered in 10 years. You will not remember this in 10 years. It just makes us feel relevant today and controls us keeping us peaceful and satisfied. We want to believe we have a purpose here but politically we are actually all just waves racing to the shore in an endless ocean of time, trying to believe that we are making progress along the way. Nothing will happen, and also don't believe the doomers. Read their unspecific dire predictions and then reread this and which one sounds true to you?

Or you can worry about "next Monday" or whatever, I'm sure it will be super important day for the whole century and everything we do matters greatly. /s Nothing's happening my bros, short of a meteor strike. Everything else is very short term. Think of how cringe old politics SNL skits about Reagan are.

Bro..........Man......I feel sad for some of you all. Have you heard or read about the Great Depression of the 1930s in America? Or the Great Recession in 2008 in America? Those things didn't happen on accident. And YES....we still remember those times today (100 and 17 years later). So, it's not correct to say that nothing will change.

That is why it's more of media fear mongering and sensationalizing the news especially from leftist. Everything will be fine especially for gaming industry. Pres Trump and his team knows what they are doing, and other countries knows how to negotiate and they are aware that USA is a big market that they don't want to lose. And companies have strategies and they know how to negotiate tax incentives and putting more investments,
business and factories in USA. It is a win win situation for everyone.

Please understand that this isn't fear-mongering from the leftist. We don't have to make this into "your team" vs "my team". That's not how the global stock market and Bond markets work. Have you taken a look at the U.S. markets today?

There are REAL issues happening and it's not just politics.

I understand, but Pres Trump is just in his 4th month in his presidency and he and his team has more time to fix this issues you mentioned. It already feels like 2 years even just his 4th month. This strategy and economic policy right now are carefully studied for many years even before the campaign and they know what they are doing but it is a calculated risk and a bit of a gamble for change to happen especially bringing back jobs to USA. There are so many states that needs jobs right now in USA like Michigan, Pennsylvania, Arizona, San Francisco, etc.

Staying with the status quo and following the policies of WTO and GATT was bad for USA throughout the years and even for other countries. Because of the bad trade policies in the past, the USA lost allot of jobs, rising deficit, trade imbalance, and lost of income for USA, and worse China had taken advantage of the world trade policies and found away to skirt the rules.

Going back, I'm sure that gaming industry will be fine, and we might even see even bigger growth and better quality in the gaming industry.

Why do some of you all think jobs like making Nike sneakers and iPhone are going to come to Michigan and Pennsylvania? They aren't. The economy can't afford it. There's a reason businesses moved alot of their manufacturing overseas. It worked out for most Americans.

 

[StereoVsn]

Bro..........Man......I feel sad for some of you all. Have you heard or read about the Great Depression of the 1930s in America? Or the Great Recession in 2008 in America? Those things didn't happen on accident. And YES....we still remember those times today (100 and 17 years later). So, it's not correct to say that nothing will change.



Please understand that this isn't fear-mongering from the leftist. We don't have to make this into "your team" vs "my team". That's not how the global stock market and Bond markets work. Have you taken a look at the U.S. markets today?

There are REAL issues happening and it's not just politics.



Why do some of you all think jobs like making Nike sneakers and iPhone are going to come to Michigan and Pennsylvania? They aren't. The economy can't afford it. There's a reason businesses moved alot of their manufacturing overseas. It worked out for most Americans.

Yep, a lot of these theoretical jobs Americans don't want. And for others we don't have the supply chains. Correcting those will take years and potentially decades.

What we are losing are some of the white collar jobs that folks do want.

And tariffs don't take services into account which is an issue as other countries can target them by targeting US companies (Google, MS, Meta, US Banks/Finance, etc).

Anyways, yes, I think certain amount of adjustments whether through tariffs or trade agreements are needed, the way White House went about it is not something that's good for the economy. You can't expect companies to open US factories in weeks.

 

[Gambit2483]

100%

I'd rather not have lost my 401k savings. Or have complete global economic instability.

 

[00_Zer0]

Panic buying due to future potential tariffs, and scalping incoming. What a nasty combination. This launch is a mess. One ace up my sleeve was that I did add my name to the NSO list so hopefully I receive an email from Nintendo giving me my timeframe to preorder. Hopefully I get that email before the June release if I'm lucky.

 

[HeisenbergFX4]

Best Buy must be playing with their preorder queue because I can put one in my cart but go to check out and its not there

 

[StereoVsn]

Best Buy must be playing with their preorder queue because I can put one in my cart but go to check out and its not there

Looks greyed out to me unless BestBuy actually had pre-orders live and sold out.

 

[HeisenbergFX4]

Looks greyed out to me unless BestBuy actually had pre-orders live and sold out.

Its only showing up to me under the saved tab.

It actually put it in my cart a few times but removed it now it wont even do that

 

[StereoVsn]

Its only showing up to me under the saved tab.

It actually put it in my cart a few times but removed it now it wont even do that

Wonder if they are about to just silent drop it, lol.

 

[Rush2112]

Whatever happens, I know that no one on this board will change their mind. So why are you arguing?

 

[Power Pro]

Your move Nintendo

 

[Tams]

It is likely that Nintendo priced that in already. I mean why wouldn't they assume some tariff since the clown keeps touting these taxes and price that risk in from the get go? They only stopped when the moron brought out that 3rd grade idiot calculation nonsense.

Look, they added a couple of ancient greek characters into the equation that come to timesing by 1.

It's big brained. The biggest brained. Comprendé?

 

[DeafTourette]

Isn't a trade deficit where, between two countries, where country A is taking in more from country B than country B is taking from Country A? I'm pretty sure that's it.

A trade deficit is not like debt Country B owes to Country A... Correct?

So I'm not understanding how folks are getting all riled up because the UK doesn't buy pick-up trucks from the US when the UK has smaller roads and such. Our way is not universal in the US. The only countries that are remotely similar are Australia and Canada.

 

[Hollywood Hitman]

I'd rather not have lost my 401k savings. Or have complete global economic instability.

Man they must've had to shovel you up off the floor during covid

 

[saintjules]

 

[nial]

The good thing is that Mexico has good relations with China, Japan, Vietnam, with 98% of the countries... Except Ecuador, Perú, Argentina And we're exempt from tariffs... From what I see, it's better if I do the Nintendo Switch 2 section.

Don't worry, you're still my friend.

 

[Heimdall_Xtreme]

Don't worry, you're still my friend.

You too friend

 

[Sakura]

Isn't a trade deficit where, between two countries, where country A is taking in more from country B than country B is taking from Country A? I'm pretty sure that's it.

A trade deficit is not like debt Country B owes to Country A... Correct?

So I'm not understanding how folks are getting all riled up because the UK doesn't buy pick-up trucks from the US when the UK has smaller roads and such. Our way is not universal in the US. The only countries that are remotely similar are Australia and Canada.

There is nothing inherently wrong with trade deficits. A first world country can afford to buy lots of cheap goods from a poor country, but the poor country can't afford to buy the goods from the first world country. It's like when the yen gets weaker and people say it's a great time to go on vacation to Japan, or import stuff from Japan.
It's all largely irrelevant any way, because the trade deficits have very little to do with the tariffs, regardless of what the president might say. There are many countries that don't have trade deficits with the US, but they still got tariffed. ie Singapore buys more stuff from America than America buys from Singapore, so America has a trade surplus. But they are still getting hit with a 10% tariff.

 

[ShadowNinja]

I think some level of tariffs will stay. Trump and Republicans need some additional revenue to help pay for the tax cuts and they gutted the IRS which will lower money coming in.

Dang how did I miss that

 

[existensmaximum]

I didn't vote for him, why do I have to pay the price?

Democracy 101

 

[James Sawyer Ford]

I don't see any point in delaying pre orders much further.

There's not going to be a lot of certainty in the meantime other than the 90 day window (within launch period) and 10% maximum tariff. Maybe the only point in waiting is to determine what their supply situation will look like for the US now, if they have to significantly change course.

I would hope that Nintendo would just eat whatever cost is incurred, since I suspect there's already healthy margin built in.

 

[Gambit2483]

Man they must've had to shovel you up off the floor during covid

People died during covid. Show some fucking basic human decency for Christ sake.

 

[blacktout]

Me, every time I open this thread hoping for an update on North American preorders, only to find everyone is still fighting about politics:

 

[Hollywood Hitman]

People died during covid. Show some fucking basic human decency for Christ sake

People die every second, guess we can't joke or do anything? Just sit at a fucking wall and stare at it?

 

[BacklashWave534]

For now until the Orange Manchild has another fit

Leave your politics at the door. If you want to whine like a little baby about Trump than go RetardEra.

 

[BacklashWave534]

Wonder how many of his friends made millions if not billions on the stock dip with the tariff threats only to "pause" them

Could have sworn their were rules about talking straight politics on gaf. Not sure what alligation of insider trading have to do with gaming. You guys really do see the orange man in every aspect of your life which is very sad.

 

[Hero_Select]

Leave your politics at the door. If you want to whine like a little baby about Trump than go RetardEra.

No.

Tariffs are literally a political topic, if you dont like it then feel free to ignore people who are insulting the orange dumbass. Or just go hang out on "Truth" social.

 

[Woopah]

Could have sworn their were rules about talking straight politics on gaf. Not sure what alligation of insider trading have to do with gaming. You guys really do see the orange man in every aspect of your life which is very sad.

People see the President "in every aspect of their lives" just because they link him with the stock market? The stock dip and then rise are a direct result of Trump's actions.

 

[DaleinCalgary]

Could have sworn their were rules about talking straight politics on gaf. Not sure what alligation of insider trading have to do with gaming. You guys really do see the orange man in every aspect of your life which is very sad.

Just a wee bit of leeway on this.

At the time when they made that rule there were different things going on. I don't believe tariffs effecting pricing is out of bounds in this situation.

 

[BacklashWave534]

People see the President "in every aspect of their lives" just because they link him with the stock market? The stock dip and then rise are a direct result of Trump's actions.

I'm not a political person but i can't seem to have a conversation with a liberal without Trump being brought up. It's beyond annoying.

 

[BacklashWave534]

Just a wee bit of leeway on this.

At the time when they made that rule there were different things going on. I don't believe tariffs effecting pricing is out of bounds in this situation.

I agree but he was making allegations about insider trading. No one really knows what the tarrifs will do. Could be a great negotiating tactic or an awful disaster. It's just annoying to have to listen to people with stage 4 TDS. Trump lives in their heads rent free and they see him in every aspect of their lives. I may be insane but i would love to focus on discussing videogames here.

 

[Woopah]

I'm not a political person but i can't seem to have a conversation with a liberal without Trump being brought up. It's beyond annoying.

If it was an unrelated topic I would understand. But this thread is specifically about Trump's tarrifs. Of course he's going to be mentioned.

 

[DaleinCalgary]

I agree but he was making allegations about insider trading. No one really knows what the tarrifs will do. Could be a great negotiating tactic or an awful disaster. It's just annoying to have to listen to people with stage 4 TDS. Trump lives in their heads rent free and they see him in every aspect of their lives. I may be insane but i would love to focus on discussing videogames here.

Didn't read the above comment but holy crap yes, insider trading is happening. The guy that drops off the KFC to trump at 2 am and see's him angry. Call it in.

Oh yes we do know what 145% tariffs on China will do my sweet summer child.