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[perfectchaos007]

Must. Have. Hardware. Numbers.

 

[lockload]

The real test for sony is next month and the ones running up to christmas not the month when they lob $100 off the price

 

[Odysseus]

The real test for sony is next month and the ones running up to christmas not the month when they lob $100 off the price

what if they drop the price $100 every month?

ps3: free by january.

i admit it, i'd buy one.

 

[Fuzzy]

what if they drop the price $100 every month?

ps3: free by january.

i admit it, i'd buy one.

If I were you I'd wait in hopes that they paid me.

 

[KINGMOKU]

Okay, with the % given, can anyone figure out how much each piece of hardware sold, using last months numbers for reference?


Man this is getting annoying without the #'s.

 

[Odysseus]

If I were you I'd wait in hopes that they paid me.

never look a gift horse in the mouth.

unless you're a dentist.

 

[tanod]

It seems like a lot of people on GAF have become two console owners the last month or so. Madden and the price cuts is gonna be a nice kick in the pants for 360/PS3 sales overall.

 

[indie85]

Anyone else getting f**ked off with how long its taking them to bring out numbers? I wouldnt be surprised if we start getting numbers over a month later at this rate.

 

[bud]

ot, but my predictions for us sales in august.

ps3 - 133k
360 - 180k
wii - 399k
ds - rip
ps2 - 210k
gba - 134k

everything will be back to normal by september, but yeah, rip ds.

 

[sonycowboy]

Wait, you wrote this release? Did they forbid you giving hardware numbers (and exact software numbers)? Is this what we can expect on Thursday?

Yes, I did. NPD Canada runs differently than NPD USA. Different restrictions. How one handles releases is different than the other. That being said, I think you get quite a bit of data out of this one. Outside of getting hard numbers, what else would you want to see?

It's going to be interesting to see how the PS3 performance is compared to the 113% increase Sony reported, how the top five retailers fare compared to the NPD figure.

It destroyed the 113% increase when you consider the 1 less week of sales.

 

[Hcoregamer00]

Anyone else getting f**ked off with how long its taking them to bring out numbers? I wouldnt be surprised if we start getting numbers over a month later at this rate.

Money, and lots of it.

Does GAF have a NPD fund????

 

[BenjaminBirdie]

I'm starting to think MS will have to drop a bomb at Leipzig to over shadow over NPD news. I mean, Pachter said PS3 sold better, and he's like a Jesus of the video game world.

They won't have to do any such thing. 360 is home to the most beloved game in the world this week, seriously, and PS3 doesn't have anything remotely comparable on their racks. Some article positied that BioShock is poised to sell 3.2 mil on the 360 when it's all said and done. PS3 can take every month as long as the 360 userbase that MS has cultivated can carry such unique and spectacular titles to such success.

 

[Pureauthor]

If I were you I'd wait in hopes that they paid me.

I'm not that greedy.

Spoiler

Also their money is probably stained with the blood of all the orphans they murdered. Because Sony is evil like that.

 

[Jokeropia]

it's worth noting that the 360 has been outselling the PS3 by a much wider margin in Canada than in the US

That's not quite true is it?

APRIL Canada:
360 - 12,800
PS3 - 7,200
Ratio: 1.78:1

APRIL USA:
360: 174k
PS3: 82k
Ratio: 2.12:1

MAY Canada:
360 - 12,300
PS3 - 6,500
Ratio: 1.89:1

MAY USA:
360 155,932
PS3 81,604
Ratio: 1.91:1

JUNE Canada:
360 - 13,500
PS3 - 6,500
Ratio: 2.08:1

June USA:
360 - 198,000
PS3 - 98,000
Ratio: 2.02:1

 

[duderon]

Whooops. It was, I was using the rounded down figures. When I take into account the whole numbers, its only > 7-1 for the DS vs the PSP.

PSP has really, really slowed down after decent HW performance in Canada in prior months.

Why are you holding out on us SC? :|

 

[KINGMOKU]

Anyone else getting f**ked off with how long its taking them to bring out numbers? I wouldnt be surprised if we start getting numbers over a month later at this rate.

It really is sad. I understand bringing in new online sources, and whatnot, but this is just, well, whatever.

I mean we are getting more regular, and better numbers from across Europe for pete's sake.

Thats how bad NPD as a whole is.

It will only be so long before we start to get reliable, and better numbers from other sources. Such is the way of progress.

 

[Odysseus]

Yes, I did. NPD Canada runs differently than NPD USA. Different restrictions. How one handles releases is different than the other. That being said, I think you get quite a bit of data out of this one. Outside of getting hard numbers, what else would you want to see?

outside of hard numbers, we want to see hard numbers.

 

[schuelma]

Rough rough hardware guesses:


Wii 33-35K
PS3- 14-16K
360- 11-13K


Does that sound generally in the ballpark?

 

[sonycowboy]

That's not quite true is it?

I guess not. :O

I haven't followed the NPD Canada threads that closely, but I read people throwing out different percentages of how Sony was particularly weak in Canada vs US. I've got actual numbers, so I should have looked at past months more closely.

Thanks for catching that. Article fixed.

 

[Luckyman]

It destroyed the 113% increase when you consider the 1 less week of sales.

Isn't June and July NPD both 4 weeks?

Destroyed? What what?

 

[Odysseus]

Isn't June and July NPD both 4 weeks?

Destroyed? What what?

june covers a 5 week period, july covers 4.

 

[plagiarize]

june covers a 5 week period, july covers 4.

that would infer that 360 sales are up week on week too then right?

 

[tanod]

that would infer that 360 sales are up week on week too then right?

Not necessarily. For all we know, 360 could be exactly the same or less and PS3 could outsell it by 15%. Though, the total HW sales $$$ does indicate that there was a general increase for everybody.

 

[Slavik81]

wait, what?

nds 9x psp
gba > psp

what's up, canada?

that's got to be a typo.

9-1 is about the ratio of DS to PSPs that I've seen. Maybe 20 DSs and 2 PSPs since they launched.

 

[theguy]

I'm working with Sonycowboy on a regular basis and will work to have "hard" numbers to you all very soon. U.S. numbers will be "hard" and I'll try to get those to you all early Thursday eve.

A special thanks to Sonycowboy for being patient and working with me on this.

 

[trilobyte]

I don't understand why everyone is so eager to see the PS3 beat the Xbox360 for one month, while Wii continues to dominate by more than doubling both of their numbers combined.

Isn't the PS3/Xbox360 fight a bit...moot?

 

[schuelma]

I don't understand why everyone is so eager to see the PS3 beat the Xbox360 for one month, while Wii continues to dominate by more than doubling both of their numbers combined.

Isn't the PS3/Xbox360 fight a bit...moot?

It's the only drama left at the moment.

 

[PistolGrip]

Addendum should be added to title - PS3 BEATS 360 OMG!!!

I don't understand why everyone is so eager to see the PS3 beat the Xbox360 for one month, while Wii continues to dominate by more than doubling both of their numbers combined.

Isn't the PS3/Xbox360 fight a bit...moot?

You mean a console with less software and $100-200 selling more than the nearest competitor is not worth discussion :O

 

[sonycowboy]

outside of hard numbers, we want to see hard numbers.

Your wish is my command. Original post edited.

Hardware Jul'07 Jun-07 Adjusted for extra week
Nintendo DS 45,755 45,700 25.15%
Wii 36,419 53,000 -14.11%
PS2 20,278 21,000 20.70%
PS3 15,037 6,500 189.17%
Xbox 360 13,119 13,500 21.47%
GBA 9,750 8,800 38.49%
PSP 5,825 18,500 -60.64%

 

[Fuzzy]

Your wish is my command. Original post edited.

Hardware Jul'07 Jun-07 Adjusted for extra week
Nintendo DS 45,755 45,700 25.15%
Wii 36,419 53,000 -14.11%
PS2 20,278 21,000 20.70%
PS3 15,037 6,500 189.17%
Xbox 360 13,119 13,500 21.47%
GBA 9,750 8,800 38.49%
PSP 5,825 18,500 -60.64%

I love you.

PSP drop HAS to be the lack of stock.

 

[schuelma]

Your wish is my command. Original post edited.

Hardware Jul'07 Jun-07 Adjusted for extra week
Nintendo DS 45,755 45,700 25.15%
Wii 36,419 53,000 -14.11%
PS2 20,278 21,000 20.70%
PS3 15,037 6,500 189.17%
Xbox 360 13,119 13,500 21.47%
GBA 9,750 8,800 38.49%
PSP 5,825 18,500 -60.64%

Thanks...I was pretty close with my estimates.

 

[Psychotext]

Addendum should be added to title - PS3 BEATS 360 OMG!!!

I don't know if you didn't get the memo... but the shock would have been the PS3 not outselling the 360 after the chunky price cut. Just like next month will be a shock if the 360 doesn't outsell the PS3.

 

[Psychotext]

PSP drop HAS to be the lack of stock.

Could be people waiting for the new model. I certainly wouldn't buy one now when I knew the new one was just around the corner.

 

[Hcoregamer00]

I'm not that greedy.

Spoiler

Also their money is probably stained with the blood of all the orphans they murdered. Because Sony is evil like that.

LOL

Did I say that you are one of my favorite posters?

Your wish is my command. Original post edited.

Hardware Jul'07 Jun-07 Adjusted for extra week
Nintendo DS 45,755 45,700 25.15%
Wii 36,419 53,000 -14.11%
PS2 20,278 21,000 20.70%
PS3 15,037 6,500 189.17%
Xbox 360 13,119 13,500 21.47%
GBA 9,750 8,800 38.49%
PSP 5,825 18,500 -60.64%

What??

The PSP is a great console and should rightfully be at the second place position instead of the Wii.

 

[donny2112]

The first and hopefully not the last month that PS3 outsells 360 world-wide.

March with the PAL launch. PS3 demolished 360 for that month.

Your wish is my command. Original post edited.

Hardware Jul'07 Jun-07 Adjusted for extra week
Nintendo DS 45,755 45,700 25.15%
Wii 36,419 53,000 -14.11%
PS2 20,278 21,000 20.70%
PS3 15,037 6,500 189.17%
Xbox 360 13,119 13,500 21.47%
GBA 9,750 8,800 38.49%
PSP 5,825 18,500 -60.64%

You rocketh.

Should we know who "driley" is? Does he work with NPD?

Edit:
:O

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=5061598

David Riley, senior marketing manager for the market research firm NPD.

 

[Fuzzy]

sonycowboy do you have the March HW numbers? I know the Wii sold about 26,500 but that's all I got.

 

[bud]

sc's thread titles always crack me up.

 

[frankthurk]

PS3 189.17%

Woah, that's not bad at all. Question now, will the US numbers see a similar increase or will it be the 113% number tossed around... or less?

 

[sonycowboy]

Should we know who "driley" is? Does he work with NPD?

You should. He's "the guy" and yes he works at NPD.

 

[Lord Error]

Wow, I remember PS3 was selling like shit here in Canada, for a while even unproportionally worse than PS3 in the US.

 

[BenjaminBirdie]

You should. He's "the guy" and yes he works at NPD.

And he has a fantastic avatar.

 

[Evlar]

A complete disastrous collapse in PSP sales. That looks like a shortage. If it isn't, then Sony better not delay the PSP revision...

 

[Jon_Danger]

Wii sales down in canada?

 

[donny2112]

You should. He's "the guy" and yes he works at NPD.

He's the guy who was ragging on VG you-know-what! :lol I guess that gives him instant street-cred here.

Edit:
Welcome, Mr. Riley.

 

[Hcoregamer00]

A complete disastrous collapse in PSP sales. That looks like a shortage. If it isn't, then Sony better not delay the PSP revision...

Exactly, these sales are unacceptable.

1. It is reasonably priced
2. The game lineup is impressive

It is bad enough that it would sell at a solid number 3 all over the world with crappy software sales, but it is bad if this trend of bad hardware sales is due to the PSP itself instead of shortages.

 

[Fuzzy]

He's the guy who was ragging on VG you-know-what! :lol I guess that gives him instant street-cred here.

:lol


BTW can we get the definitive word on how NPD Canada handles tracking periods? It's been said before that it's done by calendar month instead of NPD USA's 4-4-5 months but I want to make sure.

 

[lochnesssnowman]

You should. He's "the guy" and yes he works at NPD.

I like him already. Nice that he seems to have gone out of his way to get these hardware numbers. Cheers to driley.

 

[SRG01]

Holy crap. PSP sales just imploded.

Could it be due to the PSP-lite announcement? I doubt it...

 

[titiklabingapat]

Exactly, these sales are unacceptable.

1. It is reasonably priced
2. The game lineup is impressive

It is bad enough that it would sell at a solid number 3 all over the world with crappy software sales, but it is bad if this trend of bad hardware sales is due to the PSP itself instead of shortages.

Number 2 never really mattered much. Software sales are dismal, bordering on non-existant, almost worldwide.


It's probably supply though.

 

[Link]

:lol


BTW can we get the definitive word on how NPD Canada handles tracking periods? It's been said before that it's done by calendar month instead of NPD USA's 4-4-5 months but I want to make sure.

Going by sonycowboy's month-to-month percentage changes, it uses the same 4-4-5 method the US NPD uses.