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The Christians of the time believed the Kingdom imminent, that is what historians say, iirc. That is the idea they got. Of course you can get creative with your interpretation.You read that wrong. Jesus was talking to the last generation:
I do not believe even in native speakers, my grasp of language surpasses that, I'd have to personally learn hebrew to see.Hyperbole from someone operating off second hand knowledge. The Jewish translators of the Septuagint knew ancient Hebrew, and their Greek jives. Ezekiel made it clear though, and God does not contradict Himself.
without the sacrifice of Jesus, who died for our sins, all would be doomed to eternal death, through Jesus we transcend death, only he is the exit, only he is the gateway to eternal life. This is the central dogma of Christianity, only through faith in him can we transcend our fate with the angel of Death, overcome our destinity of eternal oblivion.Not true, the Bible is clear that salvation has always been through faith alone (just as it is today in Jesus)
Death of Christ only way to atone for humanity's sin and departure from God, Christ is the only way.
Christ is the EXIT
Sorry, Christ's sacrifice is the only way.It is faith and obedience God desires, not sacrifice. Jesus said the same, and that was also clear in the Old Testament:
It is death of god, death of man, he is both. It is not only human sacrifice but, deicide. Humans must kill God because God desired death.But the consequences of sin is beyond our comprehension, and it required the blood of God to take away the punishment of sin for the world (those who choose to receive the gift). You are ignoring that Jesus is fully God and fully man, there was no human sacrifice.
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as so did I
Humanity bared its fangs against God incarnate, and it is foretold that he will do so once again. For God will meet with the angel of Death, and overcome Death at the hands of man. His victory is foretold.
The victory of the people against the angel of darkness is foretold
The eternal dragon will be slain
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The devil is not dead though, and he may be a person too.If the worst person repented earnestly, why shouldn't they be forgiven? That's human immorality, a lack of mercy.
Either way, Jesus is more than human:
And it was not a test for Jesus:
The gospels contain an account of the time the disciples and Jesus spent in the Garden of Gethsemane, just before Jesus was arrested. In the garden Jesus prayed to his Father three times, saying, “My Father, if it is possible, may this cup be taken from me. Yet not as I will, but as you will”—the KJV says, “Let this cup pass from me” (Matthew 26:39). A little later, Jesus prays, “My Father, if it is not possible for this cup to be taken away unless I drink it, may your will be done” (Matthew 26:42). These prayers reveal Jesus’ mindset just before the crucifixion and His total submission to the will of God.
The “cup” to which Jesus refers is the suffering He was about to endure. It’s as if Jesus were being handed a cup full of bitterness with the expectation that He drink all of it. Jesus had used the same metaphor in Matthew 20:22 when prophesying of the future suffering of James and John. When Jesus petitions the Father, “Let this cup pass from me,” He expresses the natural human desire to avoid pain and suffering
Why did Jesus ask God to “let this cup pass from me”? | GotQuestions.org
Why did Jesus ask God to “let this cup pass from me”? What was the cup that Jesus wanted God to take away?
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Since you're big on the original languages, please explain sheol/hades in the Bible, and why you say Jesus went to Hell (because He didn't).
There is a great deal of confusion in regards to this question. The concept that Jesus went to hell after His death on the cross comes primarily from the Apostles’ Creed, which states, “He descended into hell.” There are also a few Scriptures which, depending on how they are translated, describe Jesus going to “hell.” In studying this issue, it is important to first understand what the Bible teaches about the realm of the dead.
Did Jesus go to hell between His death and resurrection? | GotQuestions.org
Did Jesus go to hell between His death and resurrection? What was Jesus doing for the three days between His death and resurrection?
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This is what happens with translationsHis soul/spirit went to be with the blessed in sheol/hades. Unfortunately, in many versions of the Bible, translators are not consistent, or correct, in how they translate the Hebrew and Greek words for “sheol,” “hades,” and “hell.”
Some have the viewpoint that Jesus went to “hell” or the suffering side of sheol/hades in order to further be punished for our sins. This idea is completely unbiblical. It was the death of Jesus on the cross that sufficiently provided for our redemption. It was His shed blood that effected our own cleansing from sin (1 John 1:7–9). As He hung there on the cross, He took the sin burden of the whole human race upon Himself. He became sin for us: “God made him who had no sin to be sin for us, so that in him we might become the righteousness of God” (2 Corinthians 5:21). This imputation of sin helps us understand Christ’s struggle in the garden of Gethsemane with the cup of sin which would be poured out upon Him on the cross.
But you will see that I believe that paradise is both eternal torment and eternal bliss, there are not two places for the dead but one, depending on the nature of the person it is either paradise or hell. Heaven and Hell and both one and the same.
There is only physical resurrection, this world.
I have also gotten quite curious responses from those versed in the Catholic faith too, not just that of England, my view of God is in accordance with what I was told from someone with full theological studies of a Catholic priest.
People often speak of God doing this or that but it is often his angels doing the actions of God.God said that. I'm sure your confusion was accidental.
I aim to unify all beliefs, but I need not the people but the ideas that govern the world, the fundamental lines of information, for I aim to heal not one but all, since my early childhood it has been my aim to heal the world, or at least to help in its healing. Whether I will be given the honor of reciting the divine words, or merely be one more hinting at their presence, whether I'll be able to write the lines that heal the world is still beyond my knowing.Don't get your hopes up on human potential in the future.
So you're some sort of proselytizing gnostic universalist. Interesting, considering Christianity is the only proselytizing 'religion' that is necessitated by a final judgement at the end of life, and that judgment hinges on a saving faith in Jesus alone. Why do you do it?
Gnosticism has been a parasite to Christianity since the beginning, there is nothing new under the sun.
For to us a child is born, to us a son is given; and the government is upon his shoulder; and his name shall be called “wonderful counselor of the mighty God, of the everlasting Father, of the Prince of peace.”
–Isaiah 9:5
It is said the Messiah is son of man not of virgin birth, nor will he be slainR. Alexandri said, R. Joshua contrasted two verses: It is written, “And behold, one like the son of man came with the clouds of heaven” (Daniel 7:13), and another verse says, “[behold, your king comes to you…] humble and riding on an ass” (Zechariah 9:7). If Israel merits it, [he will come] “with the clouds of heaven”; if not, [he will be] “humble and riding on an ass.”
–Babylonian Talmud, Sanhedrin 98a
If a king from the House of David studies Torah, busies himself with the commandments like David did, observes the laws of the written and the oral law, convinces Israel to walk in the way of the Torah and to repair its breaches, and fights the battles of the Lord, it may be assumed that he is the Messiah. If he succeeds at these things, rebuilds the Temple on its site, and gathers the dispersed of Israel, he is beyond all doubt the Messiah…But if he does not succeed fully, or is slain, it is obvious that he is not the Messiah promised in the Torah.
–Maimonides, Laws of Kings 11:3-4 (uncensored version)
Who is the Messiah? | My Jewish Learning
Traditional Jewish Texts describe the Jewish messiah explicitly.
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I love truth so much that I can even entertain the lying nature of truth. What it means to be in the presence of God.
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