Goalus
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Maybe he paid close attention to what happens in Xbox threads and wanted to try it out for himself?
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Concord |OT| As we Firewalk through the valley of Live Service...
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FalsettoVibe
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Serious question.....is there a such thing as trolling and thread derailment in this forum? ( I know I'm derailing too...lol) Seems like anything goes at times.
I mean it's fair if a person hates a game with every fiber of their being, but there should still be a place to talk about the game itself without all the other "stuff"
Timberwolf25
Member
There is, but the mods are fairly linient which is a good thing compared to that other forum who shall not be named. You got to be really blatant and obvious.
Imo, this place has it mostly right actually being a discussion forum
sainraja
Member
Concord isn't that bad of a game, especially not as bad as it is being made out to be by certain folks, and the attention it is attracting because of its design (visual, characters, etc.) is certainly not bringing the right type of attention; the game studio also didn't help themselves by trying to enter a market saturated with "hero" shooters without adding something that makes it unique. Some are also labeling it "woke," which probably isn't helping.
If they stick with it, despite the negativity, the game should do fine. It likely won't be another COD or anything like that, but it plays well, so they can still right the ship [probably].
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Anyway, it is funny to see people pointing fingers at others in this thread when they have themselves acted similarly over a game that just happened to be branded with a different "mark.". And the people trying to call out "James" here won't do the same to the others who are behaving in a contradictory way (prob because their underlying feelings align
), and so the cycle continues.
If they stick with it, despite the negativity, the game should do fine. It likely won't be another COD or anything like that, but it plays well, so they can still right the ship [probably].
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Anyway, it is funny to see people pointing fingers at others in this thread when they have themselves acted similarly over a game that just happened to be branded with a different "mark.". And the people trying to call out "James" here won't do the same to the others who are behaving in a contradictory way (prob because their underlying feelings align
), and so the cycle continues.
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apocaliptic
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What's to talk about the game, maybe only 2 or 3 people from here bought it. They can DM each other and freely discuss the good things about the game. The rest of us is here for the laughs and the trolling obviously
Senua
Gold Member
Where?
Killjoy-NL
Gold Member
True, but I don't enter in those OTs, so no idea.I mean you could say about Sony fans when Xbox games gets released doesn’t get favourable reception.
Killjoy-NL
Gold Member
Besides the point. But I suppose it's the result of some having waited for years to have an actual stick to beat Sony and the PS fanbase with.
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vaibhavpisal
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Cyberpunkd
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It doesn’t matter - unless you have an incredible hook there is absolutely no reason for people to abandon their thousand of hours of Fortnite or Destiny accounts to start with a new GAAS, this is what nobody greenlighting these games is not getting.
This game does have incredible hook. It’s colorful, yet bland, Guardians of the Galaxy vibes whereas superhero and Marvel fatigue are in full swing, with pronouns that will trigger a lot of people.
Killjoy-NL
Gold Member
It just needs to get into people's rotation.
Embearded
Member
The 40$ price also doesn't help when there are free to play hero shooters out there and Valorant was just released for PS5.
DenchDeckard
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DenchDeckard can correct me if im wrong but i read his post as:
" i can be a fanboy at times and rightfully get pulled up about it, but you're worse"
Then you reponded with redfall vs concord which kinda renforced his point lol.
*not saying i agree thats just how i read his post.
You've nailed it. I was a little bit tipsy as I'd been to a gig and I was checking the thread for feedback on the game and player numbers as I have played the beta. I thought the gameplay was serviceable but ultimately not an ounce of creativity. Just a carbon copy of other games with some awful disney esque quips. It's an awful game. Void of any creativity.
I then look through the thread and see numerous posts of
James Sawyer Ford
consistently demonstrating xbox living in his head rent free that my tipsy mind couldn't even work out if I was in the concord OT.The whataboutism displayed was purely something else. It seems like he has been getting worse over the last few weeks/months.
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James Sawyer Ford
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You've nailed it. I was a little bit tipsy as I'd been to a gig and I was checking the thread for feedback on the game and player numbers as I have played the beta. I thought the gameplay was serviceable but ultimately not an ounce of creativity. Just a carbon copy of other games with some awful disney esque quips. It's an awful game. Void of any creativity.
I then look through the thread and see numerous posts of
The whataboutism displayed was purely something else. It seems like he has been getting worse over the last few weeks/months.
Whataboutism is an overused term the blue haired nazi’s use when you actually have a point
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DenchDeckard
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Whataboutism is an overused term the blue haired nazi’s use when you actually have a point
AgatonSax
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The other forum might be a plague pit but they do actually discuss the game. This ‘OT’ is empty calories thus far.
vaibhavpisal
Member
People will have to buy and play game to discuss it.
N30RYU
Member
I don't need to play a game to hate it... the only thing I need to know is that this has been greenlighted when Factions, Horizon and Spiderman multiplayer games have been put to sleep and I would rather buy any of those than this one.
And if that isn't enough on top of that they put all the woke in the world in this game and pretend that we should be ok with it and buy the game and make it a mega hit... no thanks.
I really hope it bomba hard and all the ppl that spend money on it found the lobbies empty and drop it in less than a month.
There is a reason why games like Stellar Blade, Wukong and Helldivers 2 sell... and the reason is that they aren't anything more than just games made to entertain not trying to please a vocal minority that in the end don't give a fuck about videogames nor buy them.
And if that isn't enough on top of that they put all the woke in the world in this game and pretend that we should be ok with it and buy the game and make it a mega hit... no thanks.
I really hope it bomba hard and all the ppl that spend money on it found the lobbies empty and drop it in less than a month.
There is a reason why games like Stellar Blade, Wukong and Helldivers 2 sell... and the reason is that they aren't anything more than just games made to entertain not trying to please a vocal minority that in the end don't give a fuck about videogames nor buy them.
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STARSBarry
Gold Member
I mean the game is being discussed, just not the parts you want to be discussed I'm guessing.
You know, because it's shit.
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Shake Your Rump
Member
I think that you posted at 3am on release day…
I also think that if I have to choose between Visions of Mana or this…
Actually, I just realized that this has a physical release. I may pick it up as well!
Edit: forgot that this game would require me to pay the PlayStation plus $12 bribe just to play the damn game for a month. Never mind.
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FunkMiller
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On the Steam global top sellers list, Concord - on launch day - is below Star Trek Online, Left For Dead 2, two places above For Honor and four above Grocery Store Simulator.
That's not good, is it?
That doesn't sound good.
That's not good, is it?
That doesn't sound good.
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I am a PS fanboy.On the Steam global top sellers list, Concord - on launch day - is below Star Trek Online, Left For Dead 2, two places above For Honor and four above Grocery Store Simulator.
That's not good, is it?
That doesn't sound good.
I hope this game bombs. I hope it bombs hard.
Killjoy-NL
Gold Member
Ehhh looking at the positive side, this surely will send a clear message to Sony.On the Steam global top sellers list, Concord - on launch day - is below Star Trek Online, Left For Dead 2, two places above For Honor and four above Grocery Store Simulator.
That's not good, is it?
That doesn't sound good.
FunkMiller
Gold Member
Is this game out now? Steam doesnt even show player numbers so its below 300
Launches in six hours.
Luipadre
Gold Member
oh thats why then
FunkMiller
Gold Member
The free beta topped out at just over 2000, so I figure this probably would do too much more at launch.
PeteBull
Member
Maybe on rainbow forum or those kotaku or wired sites ;D
Tiago Rodrigues
Member
It only releases in a few hours.Is this game out now? Steam doesnt even show player numbers so its below 300
Take a break, stop pressing F5 for a bit
STARSBarry
Gold Member
It only releases in a few hours.
Take a break, stop pressing F5 for a bit
Na dude everyone's super excited to see the player count is.
Robb
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Felessan
Member
Tell it to score 56 game 1st descendent
The only thing that really matters in gaas is how interesting and addictive to play a game. All other stuff pretty irrelevant.
And those who greenlight these games understand how they work and that market for them is huge now.
Gaas games actually becoming less demanding over player time, making it easier to combine them.
For example you can play Genshin, HSR and ZZZ simultaneously and it will take you about 2 hours a day. Or you can play Fortnite when you want to play a shooter and play ZZZ when you want to play action-rpg and there are will be no real conflict between them.
Landscape of gaas rapidly evolving, they no longer likes an MMO that required huge amount of time to be locked in-game to stay relevant.
I know people who play 5-6 gaas at time, some of them more laid back, some of them more serious. And it's not something strenuous.
SidViscous
Member
Just a few hours, so hyped
to see the graphs
to see the graphs
CityHunter1981
Member
The game might be okay, good for some people even, but to have a chance as a live service game, good is just not good enough.
There are already enough alternatives, which are just better, so who would like to play a lesser game if there are better alternatives.
There are already enough alternatives, which are just better, so who would like to play a lesser game if there are better alternatives.
Roman Empire
Member
You motherf... I was about to post this
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clarky
Gold Member
I don't think there has ever been a game as eagerly awaited on gaf as this........for player counts
Im half expecting a que to access steamdb at this point lol.
I hope i does like 20k just to really confuse everyone.
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P:axMagellanic
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600 players, just because I feel like being an arsehole.
vaibhavpisal
Member
It has already sold close to 3k copies. So it will be higher than 600 for sure.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
The Concord beta peaked at 2,388 players on Steam.
How often does a release game out-do a free open beta?
How often does a release game out-do a free open beta?
Roman Empire
Member
Only if it was outstanding and then gained popularity as it exploded into the mainstream, and certainly this is not an adjective we could use to describe concord. At most we call say it is competent shooter (a few tweaks like movement speed and TTK, not to CoD levels or anything, could make this game way better) but unremarkable in every other sense, mainly character design... which is the most attractive remark of a hero shooter.
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wipeout364
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I wonder if the art team from first descendent had done the character design for Concord if things would be different. I am kind of joking but also kind of serious. Personally Concord is so ugly I would need gameplay to be next level to spend my time on it unless it was FTP.
However first descendent is pretty average, maybe below average and it seems to be getting lots of traction and I think a lot of that is due to the amazing characters/skins design but it is FTP so it is tough to know.
However first descendent is pretty average, maybe below average and it seems to be getting lots of traction and I think a lot of that is due to the amazing characters/skins design but it is FTP so it is tough to know.
P:axMagellanic
Member
Concurrents are never as high as the actual sales though are they? But seriously though, only 3k copies? holy shit.
STARSBarry
Gold Member
Yeah excuse the name the closed beta client was used for an open beta later on where it hit its high.
So yeah it happens when betas make a good Impression... shame Darktide flopped soon after.
Man I can't wait to see concord numbers...
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Im not interested in this type of game, other than the discourse around it, but the problem imo from everything ive seen is very much the characters.Concord isn't that bad of a game, especially not as bad as it is being made out to be by certain folks, and the attention it is attracting because of its design (visual, characters, etc.) is certainly not bringing the right type of attention; the game studio also didn't help themselves by trying to enter a market saturated with "hero" shooters without adding something that makes it unique. Some are also labeling it "woke," which probably isn't helping.
If they stick with it, despite the negativity, the game should do fine. It likely won't be another COD or anything like that, but it plays well, so they can still right the ship [probably].
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Anyway, it is funny to see people pointing fingers at others in this thread when they have themselves acted similarly over a game that just happened to be branded with a different "mark.". And the people trying to call out "James" here won't do the same to the others who are behaving in a contradictory way (prob because their underlying feelings align
It a 'hero shooter', the critical thing here is the heroes are the centre piece and main draw (in addition to having good gameplay). Players need to look at each one and go:
"damn they are cool/badass/unique/memorable/desirable".
The demographic for competitive shooters is overwhelming teenage males fulfilling power fantasies, and like it or not (few exceptions aside) the community response for their heroes and subsequently their game to succeed, needs to be either;
'I want to be them and kick some ass',
or
'I want to fuck them' (and from a marketing side, people should be excited to cosplay as them).
They have done one hell of a job at failing at that task with pretty much every single character. It would matter far less for pretty much any other type of game. Perhaps they were going for a different audience (and that audience does deserve games made for them), but that's simply not the audience that plays competitive first person shooters, and those edge cases that do just aren't of sufficient numbers to sustain a multi hundred million dollar budget game. If you're appealing to a niche audience the game budget needs to be set accordingly (Road 96, for instance, a game I loved, appeals to this audience, and was a success, but it was comparatively super cheap to make, and its genre was aligned with their intended audience). This should have been obvious to all involved....But it is what it is.
We'll see the numbers in a few hours, but the early data points are pointing to this being the bomb of the year.
BigBeauford
Gold Member
I can still remember being 13 and my dream was to play a FPS as a grandma or bee keeper.
clarky
Gold Member
3000 copies of early access would suggest a CCU of around 500 going off other titles.
I'm thinking 5k later on, which coupled with a much higher base on PS5 and the devs might have something to work with. If they can hold onto those players, which i think is very unlikely with the progression and game in its current form.
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FoxMcChief
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