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Destiny 2 (PC/XB1/PS4, Sep 8) CG reveal trailer, pre-orders, gameplay debut May 18th
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wesleyshark
Banned
It is Fillion. He's been the voice of Cayde-6 since launch, and his character has only gotten better with each content drop. Really seems like Nathan has a good time with it.
We have reheated and replayed enough of D1 Y1 content, haven't we? Just have our legacy Guardian be importable from appearance standpoint, but burn all old gear with space napalm.
But trailer only had Deadpool Cayde-6?
panama chief
Member
Brick walls Wes. You're talking to brick walls. Lots of people who haven't played beyond the Beta or Vanilla but sweep through to post 'deadpool?' 'This ain't the tone of destiny'...as if Cayde has zero moments of focus and being serious.
Go play The Taken King people.
That's the thing, I am not entirely sure what your view is - That one character's portrayal is indicative of the entirety of the game's tone despite him not being the only focus?
Goofy dialogue? where?
What fourth-wall breaking? he is not Zack from Saved By The Bell
Why is it that when somebody criticizes Destiny, people assume the person hasn't "really" played Destiny? I've put over 600 hours into Destiny. Am I allowed to criticize this trailer?
HiredN00bs
Member
That's what I took away from it. Here's hoping we get peanut butter and chocolate like Halo 1-3.
Jest Chillin
Member
You passed "criticizing the trailer" a long time ago. At this point, you've expressed that you don't like the humorous nature of the trailer, multiple times throughout the thread and then used it to complain about Destiny not living up to your expectations.
And this isn't the first Destiny thread you've done this in. We all know how you feel by now. Why the determination to scream "The sky is falling!" so loudly?
Glendemonium
Member
Trailer gave me a chuckle, my coworkers joked about Cayde name dropping me when he was trying to figure out who ruined the tower.
Now, the hard part.
I'm not so sure if I want to participate in this sequel. D1 post beta still left a bad impression but I kept at it since it was a fun game if you have good friends. Then the content starting trickling down, and I mean 'trickle'.
Not the game's fault, but as my friends grew, it made running nightfalls harder as a couple of those buddies would be, how should I say, unreliable when needed. And I'd only get to go on those if no one else is available. So I'd be the low man on the totem pole which pretty much sucked and I'd prefer to play with people I know and not total strangers when you consider how toxic gamer culture is. I'm not asking for a safe space, but I still run into those kind of gamers who think making racial jokes, excessive swearing, and name calling over simple screw ups are the norm.
Back to the game, there are a few things that will get me to try it. Like nightfalls that scale up to four or more players. Raids that respect your time (Like Crota, VoG, and WotM) not the cluster fuck that's king's fall. Sorry, that's not hardcore raid that's no-life-no-job content that takes far longer than it should. Try doing that on normal with PUGs... there's five hours of your life gone.
They lied about explorable worlds, that was a stinger. "You see this? You can go there." Nah the real Destiny is about as linear as it gets. I'd like to see a far larger overworld with better patrol missions and real loot. (A return of a temporary loot cave would be real cool).
So I guess I'll wait and see what happens. And yes, I want to see gameplay footage. Bungie this is 2017, some of us aren't going to fall for CG trailers and not much else.
Now, the hard part.
I'm not so sure if I want to participate in this sequel. D1 post beta still left a bad impression but I kept at it since it was a fun game if you have good friends. Then the content starting trickling down, and I mean 'trickle'.
Not the game's fault, but as my friends grew, it made running nightfalls harder as a couple of those buddies would be, how should I say, unreliable when needed. And I'd only get to go on those if no one else is available. So I'd be the low man on the totem pole which pretty much sucked and I'd prefer to play with people I know and not total strangers when you consider how toxic gamer culture is. I'm not asking for a safe space, but I still run into those kind of gamers who think making racial jokes, excessive swearing, and name calling over simple screw ups are the norm.
Back to the game, there are a few things that will get me to try it. Like nightfalls that scale up to four or more players. Raids that respect your time (Like Crota, VoG, and WotM) not the cluster fuck that's king's fall. Sorry, that's not hardcore raid that's no-life-no-job content that takes far longer than it should. Try doing that on normal with PUGs... there's five hours of your life gone.
They lied about explorable worlds, that was a stinger. "You see this? You can go there." Nah the real Destiny is about as linear as it gets. I'd like to see a far larger overworld with better patrol missions and real loot. (A return of a temporary loot cave would be real cool).
So I guess I'll wait and see what happens. And yes, I want to see gameplay footage. Bungie this is 2017, some of us aren't going to fall for CG trailers and not much else.
wesleyshark
Banned
^ Gameplay footage in May. This trailer was most definitely for long time player hype and in a secondary fashion to draw in new blood and some old blood back into the fold.
We'll get to the meat of the game closer to the beta. I am glad we got these trailers now instead of getting nothing until May. 🙃
We'll get to the meat of the game closer to the beta. I am glad we got these trailers now instead of getting nothing until May. 🙃
Two, you're totally allowed to dislike/critique the trailer. Some people like a serious tone, some don't. I think you're just the one staying put and actually discussing, amidst those that typically do drive-by threadcraps. Those of us that have routinely populated the OT's for gosh, years now, (well, then Discord happened) occasionally feel the need to call GAF out on its threadcrappery, and there aren't many who are left to take the brunt of it.
That said, I hope you find the final product more to your liking. Or you can find parts of it that you enjoy.
Peace
Don't caricature me like how Cayde was.
HiredN00bs
Member
The thing is that Destiny has changed quite a bit over the last two and a half years. I put 600 hours in before The Dark Below released. There was almost no characterization for Cayde-6 then (if you weren't a Hunter class, you were exposed to very few random Tower quips, and his exposition on the Archon Priest and Dust Palace strikes was almost completely absent of humour). The character definitely evolved most in the The Taken King, wisecracking in cinematic and game dialogue to which all players of all classes were exposed.
HawksWinStanley
Member
I don't think I can do the grind this time around. Unless they change up the formula drastically I'll probably have to pass on this. Such great times, even though I skipped Rise of Iron. Just couldn't keep up.
I understand your hesitance towards the way the character is going. We did see however, that in TTK he can be this serious guy giving you instructions and then adding in comedic quips - he's almost like a Spider-Man of the Destiny Universe. Peter Parker (especially when he grows up) is a lot like this, he has serious, deep conversations and then goes out there and laughs at villains and crooks throughout New York. I don't think this trailer is indicative of how Cayde will be throughout all of Destiny 2 at all, he may be comic relief but not all of the time. I do wish that Zavala was made a little bit lighter though, his overly serious tone doesn't help the trailer at all - although to be honest it never bothered me in Destiny 1 so it's probably just because he is juxtaposed with Cayde so strongly in the trailer. It'd be like putting a comedian and a socially awkward historian in a room together and asking them to do rousing speeches.
wesleyshark
Banned
The grind was significantly lessened in Rise of Iron, and lessened even further this week.
panama chief
Member
Feel free to. You've got the time under your belt so I'll assume some of those hours were spent on TTK. My comment was in regards to someone who jumps in, says "I only played the beta" then thinks "man, this failed comedy is the tone of destiny?" When it's not.
The trailer is character contrast. Cayde wants to fight. He's hype. The other two commanders are leading cause that's their position. They're stern, rule following, guardians of legend. It's always been that way. How would someone who hasn't played even know that? How could their criticism of overall tonal focus be valid? Cause he's "acting like deadpool" the game is suddenly a comedy and not going to firmly invest in the ideology that we're on a revenge mission to fuck shit up? That's why I urge the people who skipped D1 to give it a go
Jest Chillin
Member
I'm going to be honest with you. I'm not entirely certain what you mean here. You have voiced your displeasure with Destiny in multiple threads, yes? And you have left and come back to this thread a few times to make statements about disliking Cayde's humor and worrying that the entire game is shifting to that tone, yes?
Drop rates and LL's have been more generous since Age of Triumph. That could be just as a last hurrah before D2 though. Pop into the OT after D2 releases if you'd like and we'll let you know if the grind is better.
Easiest way to avoid actual criticism of the content and allows them to disregard the poster. It'll be a constant theme the rest of this year. A lot of people feel that criticism diminishes their hype and lessens their enjoyment of the game. It's part of why people in OTs get so fucking salty when people are critical of the relevant game. Say something critical about D2 in August and you're going to get "well, looks like someone didn't play the beta."
To be frank, many/most of those in the OTs leveled quite a bit of criticism at the game. Balance, story, promises vs. reality, microtransactions, etc.
The problem in short is the "this game sucks" or similar points that don't seem indicative of anything other than a desire to threadcrap. Constructive criticism is completely fine.
Sitting here, I started thinking of how many things we've taken Bungie to task about over in the OT's.
The story (or lack thereof) in Vanilla
The way BNG communicates (mostly Deej-related complaints- sorry Deej)
Weapon balance (nerfs/buffs)
Class balance.
Progression and loot drops and grinding
End-game and post end-game activities
RNG and its place in the game
Micro transactions and the idea of pay to win
Difficulty of certain encounters (Initial HM Crota)
Game mechanics
Game world economy
We've nagged them for changes. Urk and Luke lurk in the OTs and post every now and again. They have made many changes, we like to think in part due to our contributions. (Albeit occasionally heated or long winded - like this post)
So when someone just says "this game sucks" or "they'll never change" or "I got screwed" without any real explanation or context, we assume the Internet is showing its threadcrap colors and react, often not in a measured way.
MorshuTheTrader
Neo Member
Not really a fan of the trailer either. It's not bad, but as a reveal for Destiny 2, I think it should definitely have some more weight and feel like we're going into the next big thing.
I'm not against comedy bits, but it needs to be balanced. The modern Marvel and Star Wars movies pull this off, and maybe that's what they were going for, but it just doesn't land for me.
I'm not against comedy bits, but it needs to be balanced. The modern Marvel and Star Wars movies pull this off, and maybe that's what they were going for, but it just doesn't land for me.
Okami Haundo
Member
Personally, I really liked the reveal trailer because I'm a big fan of Nathan Fillion. Besides that, I thought it delivered a clear message that Destiny 2 is a fresh start in many ways.
I wish there was a bit more information, but I'm thinking that Bungie has a smart PR schedule here. April's Game Informer cover should be revealed next week, and I'll be amazed if it doesn't feature Destiny 2. That would partially explain the LE being Gamestop exclusive in the states as well.
After that, we have reports that media outlets will have some hands-on time in mid-April. Between those two things, we should have a healthy dose of information before the livestream in May.
I wish there was a bit more information, but I'm thinking that Bungie has a smart PR schedule here. April's Game Informer cover should be revealed next week, and I'll be amazed if it doesn't feature Destiny 2. That would partially explain the LE being Gamestop exclusive in the states as well.
After that, we have reports that media outlets will have some hands-on time in mid-April. Between those two things, we should have a healthy dose of information before the livestream in May.
Yeah, presume much? I've played vanilla to death, then up to and including The Taken King; run the raid, got the spindle, did all the hidden missions. Now am I allowed to dislike the tone?
blue_phazon
Member
This is my takeaway as well. We already know our existing gear and all that will be reset, but there's also some theories going around that our powers and light are sapped as well.
This could mean that the adventure will take us around planets to gather light and new abilities. Which hopefully means brand new subclasses
And where are you getting this notion from?
There are plenty of reasons to be down on Destiny - those of us who have put in hundreds (some thousands) of hours will attest to this.
But in this thread so far, its been a Human centipede of regurgitated misinformation, and ignorant assumptions disguised as critique.
Do you have any proof it's cut content?
No they don't. Not at all.
Anyone who doesn't expect expansions or a roadmap of content for a game like this. Is sorely mistaken.
blue_phazon
Member
For the millionth time, in a game like Destiny you're not supposed to just play the game and shelve it. Its not like the Witcher 3 where the DLC are optional sidestories. The DLC in Destiny is a continuation of the game.
Because Destiny is a "game as a service" you invest in the game, and the community. A clear roadmap of content is good. The worst part of Destiny was that weird limbo in year 2 where there was no clear roadmap for new content, and people were losing interest.
VincentMatts
Member
Thats fine, when the base game has enough content to begin with. Which D1 did not.
Take, for example, this comment.
When the initial content drops, it will likely involve a raid, by itself a huge undertaking, as well as pvp modes and maps.
Each subsequent content drop, likely to involve yet another raid, each probably still in development or in the idea phase. Or, PvP events that may spawn out of user ideas or brainstorm sessions.
Knowing how long raids take to create, my first assumption is this poster hasn't raided, or doesn't have a raid group, and because of that feels cheated out of that content. Also potentially likely to strongly suggest raid matchmaking.
But because no context is provided, all we can do is assume and react strongly, or not at all.
Trickster
Member
We aren't talking about D1 though.
Source?
VincentMatts
Member
You should. Why should i expect any different when they clearly didnt do it right the first time? Just cause? Until i see it confirmed and out in the wild, ill expect more of the same.
darkistheway
Member
It will never be enough for some people. But then I was satisfied with vanilla Destiny.
franklyshankly
Member
I actually agree. Even if D2 was exactly like D1 many of us would still buy it and enjoy it a lot.
If you wouldn't enjoy that, I'd recommend just not getting your hopes up about D2 at all. Probably better off if you just plan to skip it, and maybe you'll be pleasantly surprised later. In the meantime, no need to shit on it for 6 months straight. Just move on to other games you enjoy.
josecitoxnyo
Member
Do you actually believe that an expansion/DLC gets made after a main game releases? like, for real?
onemanasylum
Banned
Man the negativity/shit posting on gaf and especially destiny threads is out of control. What is it with Destiny that brings out so much hyperbole?
People are for now done with ripping MEA apart with hyperbole, need fresh meat. They will return to MEA on 4th.
wesleyshark
Banned
Do you have inside information?
LoNe_eXiLe
Banned
Oh man, you work for Bungo? What else can we expect? /s
We obviously can't assume Destiny 2's base game will lack in content. After the start of Destiny 1, I'm going to wait and see how this fleshed out. I want Destiny 2 to be a great game, because I really liked the parts of Destiny that were good. But they've lost my confidence on how his game will start. I see good reason in being skeptical about how the game will release at this point.
EL CUCO
Member
It's almost like Year 1 of Destiny again 😂
Do tell how you have insider information about how they are cutting away content just because they have a roadmap for post launch support in a game that thrives on retaining its community via post launch support.