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Destiny 2 Reveal Info Summary Thread: Trailers, Videos, Details, Screens, More
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MattGalvatron
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Has anyone preordered on 2 systems? Can you redeem 2 beta codes on one account?
Considering how badly the Warlock Solar Revive broke Destiny 1 its a very good thing its gone.
As far as Destiny 2 reworking all of its classes. It seems to have more defined rules for what each of its classes do/Abilities do and then it overlaps them for interesting results. Where as in D1 it was closer to 6 unique ideas split over 9 classes.
Sure it feels wierd that the Dawnbringer is a Glass Cannon version of Destiny 1's Solar Titan. And in general a D2 Warlock will likely feel closer to a D1 titan thanks to the passive Buffs/debuffs that players previously got from their defender titans. Yet overall the balance should be much better given how the Warlock Class was best used as a Melee class in Destiny 1 despite being the defult Glass Cannon. This is especially true within the Titan class where most players spent 90% of their time in D1 as a defender titan due to the Bubble Shield class ability. By sharing that between all titans that allows players to actually explore the differences between playing as a Solar/Arc/Void Titan.
As far as Destiny 2 reworking all of its classes. It seems to have more defined rules for what each of its classes do/Abilities do and then it overlaps them for interesting results. Where as in D1 it was closer to 6 unique ideas split over 9 classes.
Sure it feels wierd that the Dawnbringer is a Glass Cannon version of Destiny 1's Solar Titan. And in general a D2 Warlock will likely feel closer to a D1 titan thanks to the passive Buffs/debuffs that players previously got from their defender titans. Yet overall the balance should be much better given how the Warlock Class was best used as a Melee class in Destiny 1 despite being the defult Glass Cannon. This is especially true within the Titan class where most players spent 90% of their time in D1 as a defender titan due to the Bubble Shield class ability. By sharing that between all titans that allows players to actually explore the differences between playing as a Solar/Arc/Void Titan.
Shifty Capone1
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I also pre ordered on two systems. Is would assume you can as it looks like it separates systems, but would love a confirmation!
No, Titan is supposed to be the "melee" class throughout Destiny according to Bungie.
Personally, I don't even need cross-save. Just let me link each account to Bungie.net so that I have access to the same loot on all three platforms. If I have to hit level 20 again, that's fine. But when I hit 20 on Xbox One, it would be great to go to my kiosk and grab the exotics I unlocked on PS4.
That's why I advocate a deeper separation of PVP and PVE - two inherently different modes with different needs.
I think this is the first time I've ever agreed with you about something lmao
I've been making a lot of comparisons between Destiny and Guild Wars since day one and this is definitely an area where Bungie could learn a few things from ArenaNet.
ethomaz
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They have the worst melee in Destiny thought...
Warlocks has a fucking range with options for 100% hit shield after cooldown, damage over time, 1 hit KO after self resurrection, double melee, etc.
Hunters has options to long range knife, headshot infinite knife, 100% one hit invisibility after cooldown, double knife, etc.
Titans has... well a fist.
I was thinking they give Titan real melee option in Destiny 2.
So this is not confirmed then ? Still the same shared stats between the 2 modes ?
Hahaha...
Our next hope is Destiny 3, unless they make some big announcements later.
As it stands, yes. That said, we don't know a lot.
anothertech
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Honestly, Warlock res and Titan bubble had to go. They were required for every fireteam and made it so no one could play the class in a group setting without picking those.
I say good riddance, hopefully all the classes get some love and don't have 'required' builds like that this time around.
The dawnblade isn't much different than Titan or Hunter 'fire kill' versions.
The Titan shield is more of an attack mode that makes it more on par with the Warlock and Hunter void versions.
The Hunter staff is a better slightly better range version of the blade dancer.
The bubble and res were the only outliers that made the supers game changers that you really couldn't pick anything else for.
It's better this way.
Tell that to Bungie ^_____^
Twilight Gap
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As far as subclass makeup for groups and encounter design goes, I agree they weren't healthy for the game
Yea that's why I think it's bad considering the Sunbreaker is rumored to still be in the game. If the Sunbreaker is removed or radically redesigned then it wont really be an issue aside from the Healing Rift giving Dawnblade (and all Warlocks) overshields on command.
We don't know enough to say anything about these but I don't really mind.
In the endless list of potential supers I just don't see why they took out a unique super for a reskin of an existing one, especially if it ends up returning.
The new Striker "Juggernaut" Attunement provides some nice buffs to the Striker melee in Destiny 2.
Health regen in every single melee kill is going to be wonderful in PvE or PvP if you like punching (though melee damage has been weakened in Destiny 2), but Juggernaut Strikers have the "Knockout" perk that provides 5 seconds of increased melee range when the Titan breaks the shields of an enemy. Since PvP everyone has a shield that means anytime you engage someone and break their shields, if you're close enough the Striker would have the melee advantage. Warlock melee range by default has been pulled in too.
We don't know what melee abilities the Sentinel and Sunbreaker will have either, but it looks like Bungie is trying to push for Striker's to at least be the premiere melee brawlers in Destiny 2 since there will be much less power weapons at any one time and the game is slower.
Good writeup, TG. Are you honestly surprised, though? Bungie created the original Vex Mythoclast, one of the most hilariously OP weapons I have ever seen in PvP, and thought "This is fine."
Aside from that, as a Titan, I was alarmed when I saw the Dawnblade. I had assumed it meant the death of the sunbreaker.
If the sunbreaker is largely intact....that is honestly worse iin a way and doesn't really help the Destiny 1.5 references when the Sunbreaker uniqueness is hijacked by the Dawnblade.
Bungie wanted Destiny PVP to be the Smash Bro of shooters - everyone has a good time doing crazy shit.
Modern Warefare 2 perfected that formula and it was one of the best multiplayer experiences ever. Of course, once the complainers came, we ended up with the Year 3 meta and Destiny 2 being Halo-light.
SliChillax
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Sorry if its been asked many times but will there be a PC beta?
You were once adamant / convinced they'd never nerf anything, despite that not making any sense at all, so this reaction doesn't surprise me.
Vex Mythoclast was WAY past anything in Smash Bro, E92. Ridiculously overpowered to the point that it wasn't fun for anyone on the other team.
I thoroughly enjoyed the Vex before it was (over)nerfed. The Vex was an anomaly, but everything else about Year 1 was golden.
And I'm not sure what you mean by the first statement. As far as I'm concerned, their abundant nerfs left us with the worst meta yet and every good player yearning for year 1.
Exactly what I said. Every time someone brought up how the original Mythoclast was ridiculously overpowered or how the Gjallahorn was overpowered and made it a you had it or you sucked situation, you'd say everything was fine, this was fine, Bungie would never nerf it, stop asking for it to be as it didn't need to be.
So you disagreeing with Twilight makes sense from you since he / she is concerned about something being OP and you think that's fine. You're consistent
. I agree w/you by the way, that the Mythoclast was overnerfed...but you were always against any nerfing at all ever.
Exactly what I said. Every time someone brought up how the original Mythoclast was ridiculously overpowered or how the Gjallahorn was overpowered and made it a you had it or you sucked situation, you'd say everything was fine, this was fine, Bungie would never nerf it, stop asking for it to be as it didn't need to be.
So you disagreeing with Twilight makes sense from you since he / she is concerned about something being OP and you think that's fine. You're consistent
I agree w/you by the way, that the Mythoclast was overnerfed...but you were always against any nerfing at all ever.
Ah, thanks for elaborating. I am VERY anti-nerf. Rarely does a nerf make the experience better and Bungie has the tendency to just nerf random things. For instance, bladedancers and gunslingers were hit with the nerfbat rather harshly.
Twilight Gap
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I'm just glad the 2shot Hand Cannon bullshit will be gone.
Bring back The Last Word in all its former glory.
DreadfulOmen
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I agree 100%.
everyday math
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At least hand cannons in this build look decent
GalacticToast
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Is aiming that difficult for you?
Nah I just miss scout-cannon, shit was fun.
Looking back at the Lore comments, and some of the concerns raised by Lore focused Youtubers, I do hope that we still can find longer written pieces within the world or audio logs and such. There's a lot of stories, characters, and history in the Grimoire that I can't see fitting organically into a side quest.
No. No. Never again...
Herp Derpington
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I can't use higher rof hand cannons. The Lingering Song is the only hand cannon aside from TLW I've been competent with. For whatever reason I'm just not good with most hand cannons.
The Suros hand cannon looks excellent. Good damage and a fast reload.
everyday math
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We all just talk about the warlocks use of the healing buff, but remember it can also be a damage buff. So a damage buff every 60 sec? Tho you do have to be in the buff zone to keep active.... Has anyone confirmed that two rifts can overlap? Healing and damage at the same time.
All of the demos that they offered had a Titan, hunter, and Warlock, so I don't think there was any way to test it, but I assume they could stack, like the bubbles in D1.
Warlocks stay winning
yanipheonu
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Lol oh shit really? Any links to video or pic showing it?
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Uh I may be remembering wrong but I thought when I watched the reveal there was a hunter class like blade dancer but it was a staff or something that they were using?
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My post above. In the trailer it explodes.
This strike is on Nessus. Is that even in the Solar System?
EDIT: Apparently it is around Neptune
duhmetree
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It looks like they're draining it and hauling a molten ball away for a purpose... it seems to go boom eventually
Jest Chillin
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Arcstrider.
duhmetree
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Booom rip Mercury
Twilight Gap
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The Cabal are doing some heinous shit in this game, that's for sure.
But the fact that they look like giant ninja turtles kinda undermines the threat factor.
But the fact that they look like giant ninja turtles kinda undermines the threat factor.
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Gary will have his revenge in the raid for that comment. 100ft shield to yo face.
Twilight Gap
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10 bucks says you'll die first.