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Digital Foundry: Grounded Tech Review - Problems on PS5 and Switch - All Consoles Tested
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
- All consoles include cross-play
Resolution:
- PS5 DRS 1080p to 1215p
- Series X DRS 1512p to 2160p
- Series S ; DRS to 1080p with minor drops
- Visual features are a match across the three
Effects:
- PS5 has a slightly higher geometry draw distance, followed by SX then SS
- SX has shadows equivalent to PC's high, PS5 is between High and Epic and can look sharper
- However PS5 shadows are more aliased with SX looking more diffused in areas
- In some cases PS5's approach is better, in others SX's
- PS5 has more aliasing on depth of field effects
- PS5 / SX have 4K UI, Series S has 1080p UI
Performance:
- SX has locked 60 FPS with one-off camera judder related drops
- SS is similarly locked and has less one-off camera judder drops
- PS5 is often between 45 to 55 FPS, non-VRR displays will notice big lurches
Switch:
- Docked: 360p to 720p DRS
- Effects and texture resolution are lowered to accommodate
- DoF, volumetric shaft, player self-shadowing is disabled
- Visual presentation takes a drastic hit compared to other consoles
- However it retains all physics, SSR etc.
- Portable: Visuals matched with Docked
- Same DRS window but runs closer to lower more often
- 30 FPS target with frame-pacing issues
- Auto-save stutters are longer compared to other consoles
- Can drop to 20s in stress combat areas
- Between PS5 and SX, DF recommends playing the Xbox version
- On Switch, playing on portable is preferred over Docked
Resolution:
- PS5 DRS 1080p to 1215p
- Series X DRS 1512p to 2160p
- Series S ; DRS to 1080p with minor drops
- Visual features are a match across the three
Effects:
- PS5 has a slightly higher geometry draw distance, followed by SX then SS
- SX has shadows equivalent to PC's high, PS5 is between High and Epic and can look sharper
- However PS5 shadows are more aliased with SX looking more diffused in areas
- In some cases PS5's approach is better, in others SX's
- PS5 has more aliasing on depth of field effects
- PS5 / SX have 4K UI, Series S has 1080p UI
Performance:
- SX has locked 60 FPS with one-off camera judder related drops
- SS is similarly locked and has less one-off camera judder drops
- PS5 is often between 45 to 55 FPS, non-VRR displays will notice big lurches
Switch:
- Docked: 360p to 720p DRS
- Effects and texture resolution are lowered to accommodate
- DoF, volumetric shaft, player self-shadowing is disabled
- Visual presentation takes a drastic hit compared to other consoles
- However it retains all physics, SSR etc.
- Portable: Visuals matched with Docked
- Same DRS window but runs closer to lower more often
- 30 FPS target with frame-pacing issues
- Auto-save stutters are longer compared to other consoles
- Can drop to 20s in stress combat areas
- Between PS5 and SX, DF recommends playing the Xbox version
- On Switch, playing on portable is preferred over Docked
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solidus12
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fastest finger
Member
What a mess. All systems are poor, but all in different ways.
SEGAvangelist
Member
Glad to see PS5's resolution is so low. Series S|X players feeling first class now.
SlimySnake
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Tom Morgan off suicide watch.
nosoynadie22
Member
confirmed the PS5 is a Series S console with overclock and more ram!!
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adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Negotiator101
Member
The performance delta is in tact.
Ricky might return for this one
You will pay for your sins
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Bojji
Member
This doesn't make any sense actually, series s have not much lower resolution than PS5 and yet performs better.
We are talking about 4tf and 10tf machines so logical conclusion is that PS5 version is a shit port.
nosoynadie22
Member
Is it even justified that this game can't run at native 4k and 60fps on the Series X? I don't see anything spectacular here.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
They'll patch the performance, it's a live service-ish game, probably gets patched every other week.
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Negotiator101
Member
TF don't matter, haven't you heard?
Radical_3d
Member
One out of four. Not bad.
The Depth ROPs explain the higher shadows I'm not sure why you would even begin to think that anything in this video contradicts that.They'll patch the performance, it's a live service-ish game, probably gets patched every other week.
Mobilemofo
Member
Massive win for the boxes of X and S. 
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
I'm just disappointed you haven't self-quoted yourself from a 2020 thread so far.
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Horseganador
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Some port was going to come out regularly, thank goodness it's this Grounded that interests me 0.
rickybooby87
Member
Lord Philip K. Spencer II to Obsidian while porting grounded to the PS5:
intbal
Member
This game got a lot of patches during Early Access.
In almost every one of them, they mention CPU and memory optimizations. The game is likely highly tuned to the performance characteristics of Xbox consoles (it's a stable 1080p/60fps now on One X, even with garbage Jaguar cores).
They called 1.4 the "Final Update". I assume that means final for Xbox machines and they will now turn their attention to Playstation and Nintendo.
Obsidian has been really good about improving the game over time. No doubt that will continue on the new platforms.
In almost every one of them, they mention CPU and memory optimizations. The game is likely highly tuned to the performance characteristics of Xbox consoles (it's a stable 1080p/60fps now on One X, even with garbage Jaguar cores).
They called 1.4 the "Final Update". I assume that means final for Xbox machines and they will now turn their attention to Playstation and Nintendo.
Obsidian has been really good about improving the game over time. No doubt that will continue on the new platforms.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
It's a $40 game, not a full priced one.
Topher
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JackMcGunns
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Can you explain what's going on here OnQ123?
Topher
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mckmas8808
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Why is the Switch version so bad?
Bojji
Member
Teraflops are just part of equation, SS vs PS5 vs SX:
Almost 3x pixel fillrate, almost 3x texture rate, 2.5x more TFLOPS and 2x memory bandwidth. Yet Grounded has barely better resolution and WORSE performance.
JackMcGunns
Member
I agree completely. So to sum things up, it would be disigenuous to use an old port to measure system performance, where the difference, for better or worse, could be due to code optimization rather than the hardware itself being at fault.
Seems logical enough, we have modern games with simultanous releases like AW2 for that. I just wanted to hear what OnQ123 had to say on the matter after his conclusion on the Sea of Thieves port.I thing I noticed is that usually these UE4 games have the same difference across PS5 and Xbox, not just the XGS games but even others like Dead Island 2. Is this a preset thing?
I doubt Obsidian looked at the PS5 version and fine tuned it, since the performance isn't really stable here.
I doubt Obsidian looked at the PS5 version and fine tuned it, since the performance isn't really stable here.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
The game has been out for almost 10 days now.
It released one day after Sea of Thieves' beta date.
DF's video on this is late, if anything.
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Mr Moose
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Intern worked on it over the weekend, the rest are busy making that other game.
NuclearDiarrhea
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Because it's the Switch version.
Topher
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I agree completely. So to sum things up, it would be disigenuous to use an old port to measure system performance, where the difference, for better or worse, could be due to code optimization rather than the hardware itself being at fault.
diffusionx
Gold Member
Ps5-bros we got too cocky