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[Gaiff]

I think it's the first time I'm posting a video this early. Just got out of bed.

- 'Triumphant return for Machine Games'
- Latest fork of ID Tech 7 called 'Motor'
- RTGI targeting 60fps on consoles

- All cut-scenes are rendered in real time
- Largely excellent character models, captures look of the actors wonderfully but has a bit of uncanny valley for the opening recreation of Raiders.

- Some drops on camera cuts and some animations run at 30fps when the world around is 60fps
- Water tech praised, uses geometric mesh like last few Wolf games but in better quality

- Game offers 2 aspect ratio options.
- However there are no Performance or Quality options, only a single 60fps mode
- Traditional 16 : 9 and Ultra Wide. Ultra Wide is John's preferred method
- Options to toggle motion blur, chromatic aberration, grain. sharpness etc

-Troy Baker's Indy voice likeness praised in direct comparison to original movie
- General digital acting praised across the board

- Hair rendering also praised in a 'realistic, clean, manner'
- Does not use strand hair, uses traditional cards but can often be mistaken for strands

- RTGI is used very effectively with no light bleeding and noise.
- Compared to Epic's Lumen, it's very clean without needing ray reconstruction
- RT is only for GI, reflections are SSR only.

- Series X uses dynamic scaling to 1800p with 'very clean' image quality
- Series S uses RTGI as well with dynamic resolution to 1080p scaling
- Both consoles use Variable Rate Shading which looks fine on SX but Series S's lower resolution makes it stand out
- Series S has a smaller install size, it omits the 45~GB texture pack found on SX
- RT is present but reduced in quality along with shadow quality and cascades
- Texture quality is also often muddy in comparison
- Series X has low shadow cascades as well but Series S stands out more

- Vast maps compared to large Hitman zones, not an open world game.
- Game play is locked 60FPS in DF's testing with RTGI
- Cut-scenes dropping single frames on camera cuts aside, the performance is 'perfect'.
- Zero loading during game, everything is seamless from start to end

- Pacing praised, Riddick comparisons made
- Environmental enemy and combat animations also praised
- Stealth AI is 'good' but very video-gamey, with large grey zones in their vision
- Multiple options on how to tackle areas

- Some minor visual glitches and animations like enemies hanging off edges noted

- DF praise audio quality, reverb and SFX.


Wrap-Up
- 'Manages to perfectly capture the essence of Indiana Jones'
- 'One of the best licensed games I've played' - John
- The Great Circle outdoes every Indy game (since Fate of Atlantis)
- PC video coming soon, some differences already noted like SX RTGI being lower than lowest on PC

 

[Desprado123]

Games does not support FSR or Intel alternate just like Doom Eternal. So you expect upcoming Doom game to be DLSS exclusive.

 

[cyberheater]

Looks really good. That engine looks amazing. It’s so nice to see devs really working hard to bring the movie world into gaming. They did a fantastic job.

 

[ManaByte]

Looks really good. That engine looks amazing. It’s so nice to see devs really working hard to bring the movie world into gaming. They did a fantastic job.

Played a bit on the Series S last night and it ran good on that too.

 

[DanielG165]

1800p with RTGI, and locked at 60 fps on Series X. That’s really, really impressive. Locked 60 fps on Series S as well! Load times are practically nonexistent.

IDTech is kind of nuts lol.

 

[Luipadre]

1800p with RTGI, and locked at 60 fps on Series X. That’s really, really impressive. Locked 60 fps on Series S as well! Load times are practically nonexistent.

IDTech is kind of nuts lol.

and some people crying about this games graphics... gimme a break. Id rather take this than a UE5 mess with low ass resolution and dogshit performance

 

[kikkis]

-stable gi unlike ue5
- 30 fps drops in cutscenes
- 1800p resolution
- ssr unlike doom eternal
- great water rendering
- series s 1080p, vrs issues, lower res textures, less accurate gi
- both consoles with shadow cascade issues
- 60 fps on gameplay consistently on both consoles

 

[DanielG165]

Cutscenes dropping frames seem to be a problem on both PC and console, and is proposed to not be because of the hardware. Hopefully a quick patch will clean them up.

 

[SmokSmog]

UE5 in shambles

 

[SmokSmog]

Cutscenes dropping frames seem to be a problem on both PC and console

Game is dropping the character animations not the whole frame-rate of the game. I tried it on my 3080, 60FPS but animations randomly drop to something that look 30FPS ish while everything else is at 60FPS.

 

[Zathalus]

That's some pretty good optimization for the Xbox. Bodes well for the PC release, assuming you don't use path tracing.

 

[DanielG165]

Game is dropping the character animations not the whole frame-rate of the game. I tried it on my 3080, 60FPS but animations randomly drop to something that look 30FPS ish while everything else is at 60FPS.

Ahh I see, interesting.

 

[Senua]

Id tech 7 is a beast

 

[mansoor1980]

extremely polished game but those shadow cascades are ugly
lack of quality/performance modes is a plus.

 

[DenchDeckard]

God damn this looks fucking great!

And the sound. Troy Baker absolutely smashed it out the park!

RTGI at 60fps on console....no where near the quality Sony users are used to with titles like spider man 2 eh Killjoy-NL ?

 

[Lysandros]

There are sure some nice aspects to the technical presentation but texture side seemed particularly weak in some scenes to me. As to water rendering it is rather decent than great, splash effects appeared pretty primitive.

 

[adamsapple]

Looks fucking amazing with minor caveats.

PC version with path tracing will be an easy couple of tiers up but very nice what they've managed to pull off on consoles as well.

 

[Mr Moose]

There's some Star Wars Outlaws cinematic attacks in there, but overall looks pretty good.

Audio positioning is good.

 

[Gaiff]

Looks fucking amazing with minor caveats.

It looks decent overall, but impressive for targeting 60fps and holding it.

 

[Dibils2k]

wow, this is a great example of how every game using Unreal engine is gonna hold alot of games back

the stability of GI is so good

 

[Skifi28]

They should be giving hints to other devs how to do this, other games would have to reconstruct from 720p with FSR in order to include RTGI.

 

[Killjoy-NL]

God damn this looks fucking great!

And the sound. Troy Baker absolutely smashed it out the park!

RTGI at 60fps on console....no where near the quality Sony users are used to with titles like spider man 2 eh Killjoy-NL ?

If you read what I said, you would've noticed that I said that it's a mediocre game with good lighting.

I've always acknowledged it's lighting.

 

[Markio128]

Looks decent, and bodes well for the PS5 version next year.

Oh great, Dench has brought the war to another thread.

 

[Darsxx82]

1800p, RTGI, perfect 60fps gameplay..... MachineGames made and excelent work.

My surprise is that there is no 30fps mode with graphics values closer to higher ones on PC. For example, RTGI. It's strange because in some interviews they talked in various ways, in the end there is only one.The results in Indiana Jones bode well for the upcoming DOOM. PS. Facial animations are so great.

 

[Portugeezer]

Id tech looks plastic, but overall this is a solid package.

 

[Bojji]

Quite impressive work from MG on consoles. Metro showed in 2020 that RTGI and 60fps can be done, we had to wait long time to see this again.

What I don't like, ugly CA (hope it can be turned off on PC) and dogshit VRS - it strikes again! Worst tech ever (it's there with CA and piss filter).

 

[GHG]

UE5 in shambles

Always was. But a ton of people fell for their marketing, both developers and gamers alike. It's such a shame that CDPR have thrown away the redengine after getting things to such an advanced stage.

Really looking forward to seeing what difference path tracing will make here.

 

[Bojji]

Always was. But a ton of people fell for their marketing, both developers and gamers alike. It's such a shame that CDPR have thrown away the redengine after getting things to such an advanced stage.

Really looking forward to seeing what difference path tracing will make here.

CDPR will spend like half of development fixing shit performance of this engine...

What a fucked up decision, they had one of the best open world engines on the planet (no stutters, ultra fast loadings, full path tracing integration).

 

[twilo99]

IDTech is kind of nuts lol.

John Carmack is a real magician. It’s nice to see his legacy still delivering gamers the goods

 

[Desprado123]

wow MS did not use DX12 in this game is sign that they are ready to accept other methods for windows API as this game uses Vulkan and it does not require any kind of Shader compilation and zero stutter. DX12 really needs to be updated and see what magic does it have.

 

[GHG]

CDPR will spend like half of development fixing shit performance of this engine...

What a fucked up decision, they had one of the best open world engines on the planet (no stutters, ultra fast loadings, full path tracing integration).

And also from a community aspect, it was highly moddable.

Epic Games' business development team have cleaned up this generation, and it's such a shame.

What's crazy to me is that Microsoft now have iD tech but they are deciding to go the UE5 route for the next Halo, it makes no sense.

 

[DenchDeckard]

Looks decent, and bodes well for the PS5 version next year.

Oh great, Dench has brought the war to another thread.

It was actually Killjoy-NL im just having a friendly jibe.

 

[twilo99]

Played a bit on the Series S last night and it ran good on that too.

Blasphemy.

 

[Killjoy-NL]

It was actually Killjoy-NL im just having a friendly jibe.

Lol whut?

You literally mentioned me out of nowhere.

 

[twilo99]

What's crazy to me is that Microsoft now have iD tech but they are deciding to go the UE5 route for the next Halo, it makes no sense.

Zero sense.

Some egos are at play on that one…

 

[GHG]

Looks decent, and bodes well for the PS5 version next year.

Oh great, Dench has brought the war to another thread.

It's all he knows.

 

[adamsapple]

Blasphemy.

(will try to do summary in a bit, still in the process of coffee-ing)

 

[DenchDeckard]

It's all he knows.

Like i said it was Killjoy-NL that started all that. I'm just having a friendly bit of fun.

 

[Bojji]

Lower than low on PC (RTGI) and still looks decent on Xbox:

 

[DanielG165]

Zero sense.

Some egos are at play on that one…

IDTech may not have given Halo studios the feel or atmosphere that they wanted/needed for the franchise. Who knows. Why doesn’t Insomniac use the Decima engine for Spider-Man, as an example?

We’ll just have to see how it ultimately turns out. Plus, MS have The Coalition, the masters of UE. Hopefully the next Halo will be fine.

 

[FireFly]

CDPR will spend like half of development fixing shit performance of this engine...

What a fucked up decision, they had one of the best open world engines on the planet (no stutters, ultra fast loadings, full path tracing integration).

UE5.5 should already have substantially better RT performance and megalights should help a lot with the direct lighting. The potential of UE5 is Nanite + hardware RT GI and reflections, on consoles.

 

[Desprado123]

 

[DenchDeckard]

Hopefully the pro can deliver ray traced reflections and a higher level of rtgi drs ceiling.

 

[twilo99]

IDTech may not have given Halo studios the feel or atmosphere that they wanted/needed for the franchise. Who knows. Why doesn’t Insomniac use the Decima engine for Spider-Man, as an example?

We’ll just have to see how it ultimately turns out. Plus, MS have The Coalition, the masters of UE. Hopefully the next Halo will be fine.

Maybe that’s the case, but having access to a top tier engine developed specifically for first person shooters, and not using it because of a specific art direction is not really wise, especially considering that their consoles are both equipped with a CPU that can’t handle UE5 properly, and id tech seems to be working well for it.

We are talking about a fast paced shooter here so 120fps is essential

 

[Gaiff]

Lower than low on PC (RTGI) and still looks decent on Xbox:

They should have had a 30fps mode.

 

[Buggy Loop]

If you read what I said, you would've noticed that I said that it's a mediocre game with good lighting.

You also have an Xbox. Everyone has an Xbox, The war is over. You can drop your silly squirt guns.

 

[DanielG165]

but having access to a top tier engine developed specifically for first person shooters, and not using it because of a specific art direction is not really wise

Well remember as well, physics are a wholly important thing in Halo, so maybe UE5 was better suited to handle such than IDtech? I have no idea, but we’ll see if the choice Halo studios went with was the right one, or if it ultimately will be a mistake.

 

[Gaiff]

Averages 1757p, but the first few minutes had it much closer to 1800p. That guy's tool works well.

 

[Vick]

A release with a lot of care behind, target resolution and framerate respecting the current gen user, while offering a very nice presentation and even RT GI. Bravo.

Really excited to play this, and I can't wait to see the full PT PC version as it's probably going to look truly spectacular.

 

[DenchDeckard]

No matter what anyone says. Seems we have a solid well developed game on our hands. Roll on next week.