-
Hey, guest user. Hope you're enjoying NeoGAF! Have you considered registering for an account? Come join us and add your take to the daily discourse.
Digital Foundry: Sea of Thieves Goes Multi-Plat: PS5 and Xbox Series X/S Tested!
- Thread starter adamsapple
- Start date
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
- Like Hi-Fi Rush, the shadows look different / sharper on PS5
- DF not sure whether it's difference in resolution or filtering
- PS5 has distant draw distance LoD advantage for some foliage / trees
- Both PS5 / SX run at 2160p with no AA (No TAA)
- Series S is 1080p and has more aliasing but visual features match
- Shadow maps are lower resolution with smaller distance on Series S
- One X and Series X render the same resolution
- One X can actually have slightly sharper shadows compared to SX at times
- One X is locked at 30 while SX has a 60 / 120 h mode
- SX can have one-off single frame time dips which are likely network related
- Series S and PS5 are more or less the same with minor one off blips
- PS5 ran into an instance of locked 0 FPS for a long stretch which needed a game reboot
- Also crashed during DF testing which may be because of it being in the beta period
- 120hz FPS mode is present but DF were not able to test on PS5 in time for the beta
- On SX, the resolution drops to 1080p with frequent dips from a locked 120hz
- DF not sure whether it's difference in resolution or filtering
- PS5 has distant draw distance LoD advantage for some foliage / trees
- Both PS5 / SX run at 2160p with no AA (No TAA)
- Series S is 1080p and has more aliasing but visual features match
- Shadow maps are lower resolution with smaller distance on Series S
- One X and Series X render the same resolution
- One X can actually have slightly sharper shadows compared to SX at times
- One X is locked at 30 while SX has a 60 / 120 h mode
- SX can have one-off single frame time dips which are likely network related
- Series S and PS5 are more or less the same with minor one off blips
- PS5 ran into an instance of locked 0 FPS for a long stretch which needed a game reboot
- Also crashed during DF testing which may be because of it being in the beta period
- 120hz FPS mode is present but DF were not able to test on PS5 in time for the beta
- On SX, the resolution drops to 1080p with frequent dips from a locked 120hz
Last edited:
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Not unexpected that a much later port gets a bit better after the devs have years of working on the game under their belt.
What’s expected is that MS/Rare brings these improvements to the Xbox client. Minor PR stumble otherwise.
King Dazzar
Member
Yeah PS5 crashes aren't a great endorsement of quality. Lets hope they fix it for release.I'd say this is a pretty major frame time blip
Bojji
Member
I'd say this is a pretty major frame time blip
Game just freezes, it's not "performance problem" just fucked up code in BETA.
Heisenberg007
Gold Journalism
Radical_3d
Member
Better shadows in the One X is something I didn’t see coming (the better PS5 version saw it coming XD).
lughnasadh123
Member
solidus12
Member
It is a beta after allI'd say this is a pretty major frame time blip
It's as if MS said: "Well, what matters now is that the PS5 versions sells as much as possible, we are going to give reasons for this and show that we are not boycotting as Sony and the FTC accused us"...
Jokes aside, these ports are largely being handled by contracted external studios, so it may just come down to slightly different choices in optimization or details. The problem is that the XS versions receive no interest in updating/improving those "details" vs de original release and that denotes a lack of tact on the part of MS towards its users. Once again.
Jokes aside, these ports are largely being handled by contracted external studios, so it may just come down to slightly different choices in optimization or details. The problem is that the XS versions receive no interest in updating/improving those "details" vs de original release and that denotes a lack of tact on the part of MS towards its users. Once again.
Last edited:
SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
I wonder how long before Phil gets involved and starts to make sure the ps5 ports aren’t better.
TheTony316
Member
Sony paid Microsoft to sabotage the Xbox version.
If it sells more on PS5 than on the Xbox One/Series X, Microsoft would be over the moon. Because it’s sold well on every platform it’s been on
Last edited:
Radical_3d
Member
IDK, I feel like the majority of their user base have both consoles like me. Their sales suggest that they didn’t break through the hardcore niche, and that kind of guys have many entertainment devices.It's as if MS said: "Well, what matters now is that the PS5 version sells as much as possible, we are going to give reasons for this and show that we are not boycotting as Sony and the FTC accused us"
Through this, the XS versions receive no interest in updating/improving those "details".
Whatever it is, it is clear that MS understands that these situations do not affect the image of the brand and the morale of its users of its own console.
BTW they should add TAA to both Xbox and PS. I prefer 1800p with AA to 4K with no AA.
Last edited:
Killer8
Member
On one hand it is commendable that MS aren't gimping these releases on PS5 and are actually improving them over the Series X version.
On the other hand it is totally baffling that MS are not only allowing these games to go to a rival console, but to also be better on the rival console. It's a PR nightmare brewing ("why buy an Xbox when I can just wait to get the better version on my PS5?") that is only paving the way for them going fully third party.
On the other hand it is totally baffling that MS are not only allowing these games to go to a rival console, but to also be better on the rival console. It's a PR nightmare brewing ("why buy an Xbox when I can just wait to get the better version on my PS5?") that is only paving the way for them going fully third party.
Last edited:
Eh. Nobody’s waiting years to play a game because of virtually imperceptible visual differences.
If anyone’s waiting, it would be the existence of the port itself that drives that.
willothedog
Member
Yep if you consider the PS5 hitting 0 FPS a win
nosoynadie22
Member
Although it has been shown that Microsoft's own games work practically the same on both consoles, there are still those who say that the Series X is 50-100% more powerful than the PS5
sigrad
Member
Only reason these games have slightly better anything is because they know how to handle these systems better now. It's just lazy devs and idiotic QC that let these games release in a SLIGHTLY better state on a console that it is clearly less powerful console. Whoever is running the QC side of Xbox is either really really dumb and can't see a difference or just doesn't give a shit about quality.
Last edited:
solidus12
Member
Even Timdog has accepted the truthYep if you consider the PS5 hitting 0 FPS a win
willothedog
Member
Bernoulli
M2 slut
Pallas
Member
jm89
Member
Anchovie123
Member
Lucky Tom didnt do the coverage for this game, might of had another fit.
SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
fixed
Horseganador
Member
Another best on PS5 (better shadows and draw distance), it is ironic that the best console version of Xbox games is PS5.
digoutyoursoul
Member
Praising Phil Spencer is doing wonders for PlayStation, two generations now.
The Story Continues
If Microsoft don't use just the TFLOPS to compare Xbox Series X GPU to the Xbox One & Xbox One X why is everyone else using it to compare it to PS5 ?
They only claim a 4-6X raw GPU advantage over Xbox One while having 9X TFLOPS advantage , The triangles rate advantage is the part that bring it down to 4 -6X the raw GPU output & PS5 actually has the advantage in triangle & pixel fill rate so why do people keep using the Xbox Series X GPU...
bender
What time is it?
The Story Continues
If Microsoft don't use just the TFLOPS to compare Xbox Series X GPU to the Xbox One & Xbox One X why is everyone else using it to compare it to PS5 ?
They only claim a 4-6X raw GPU advantage over Xbox One while having 9X TFLOPS advantage , The triangles rate advantage is the part that bring it down to 4 -6X the raw GPU output & PS5 actually has the advantage in triangle & pixel fill rate so why do people keep using the Xbox Series X GPU...www.neogaf.com
rickybooby87
Member
It’s possible. DF is literally bringing the receipts, all Xbox gotta do is check em. Heck, I wouldn’t be surprised if Microsoft has the inside scoop on these reviews, even before the Patreon early access subscribers.
By all means release your games years later on other systems, but at least gimp them to fuck! It is an embarrassing look for Xbox.
Mr.Phoenix
Member
Nope... this excuse doesn't cut it. It's a port to a different platform to begin with, so there is a learning curve there. But more importantly, we have seen much later ports in the opposite direction, from PS5 to XSX which had the XSX version be worse.