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DON'T NOD states that Banishers: Ghosts of New Eden and Jusant underperformed
DragoonKain
Neighbours from Hell
Jusant had potential, but the controls were awful for me. Got very frustrated and became a chore to beat for me. Wish the climbing controls were more smoother.
Shake Your Rump
Banned
I hate that games have to "perform" now.
Jusant is a work of art. Was fun from start to finish and the emotion at the end was similar to The Last Guardian.
Jusant is a work of art. Was fun from start to finish and the emotion at the end was similar to The Last Guardian.
HogIsland
Member
Like others here, I never even heard of Banishers, and it looks really fucking good. Focus must've done a horrible job marketing this one. Jusant I played the demo and it's dope, but you can see how it's not likely to be a massive seller.
Both these games, I could see picking up a following over time with sales.
Both these games, I could see picking up a following over time with sales.
Cyberpunkd
Member
What leftist agenda? Guy trying to save his love who became a ghost? Or are you saying it’s „woke” because the lady in question is black?
Doom85
Member
What leftist agenda? Guy trying to save his love who became a ghost? Or are you saying it’s „woke” because the lady in question is black?
Just further proof everything is “woke” to some people.
So we have a white man and a black woman.
“Woke”.
Ooookay, well, the white man is dead, and the black woman has to potentially resurrect him at a cost.
“More woke! You made the white guy helpless!”
Okay, we hear you. We’ll reverse the positions, so the black woman is dead and the white man tries to resurrect her.
“Woke!”
How is this still woke?!
“Oh, I’m just yelling the word these days because being a parrot is fun!”
March Climber
Member
Most of GAF helped push this movement along. A part of me can't really bring myself to care anymore when random games and studios, that some of the anti-woke actually like, end up catching stray bullets because their audience's woke-radar has grown to an unreasonable level.
I'll just keep enjoying games and years down the line look around to see which smaller studios are left standing in the culture war aftermath.
Danteyke223
Member
Think most of the internet saw the game and screamed woookeeee game. Then got told it’s a shit game with message and told not to play it
CuckMeister
Banned
If some of you actually played Banishers you know the game is supposed to be set in the 1600s New England, yet the game is infested with feminist propaganda, gay couples and preaching about "tolerance".
The black woman also acts very manly, assertive and arrogant ,where our whitey ass little bitch of a protagonist acts like a pansy ass hipster with no backbone.
I'm sorry but this is not it, Vampyr also suffered from these issues but they were better masked and the protagonist was much better because he had a more neutral view of the world.
The black woman also acts very manly, assertive and arrogant ,where our whitey ass little bitch of a protagonist acts like a pansy ass hipster with no backbone.
I'm sorry but this is not it, Vampyr also suffered from these issues but they were better masked and the protagonist was much better because he had a more neutral view of the world.
Esppiral
Member
Remember me is their best game by far.
Peroroncino
Member
Life of strange sequels simply made this company's games a no go for me, not gonna support their crap.
Don't know anything about Jusant, but one look at Banishers playable characters was enough to assume the worst.
Don't know anything about Jusant, but one look at Banishers playable characters was enough to assume the worst.
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Putonahappyface
Member
I reckon Lost Records Bloom and Rage will be as big if not bigger than Life is Strange. From what I've seen they've a potential huge hit on there hands.
March Climber
Member
Putonahappyface
Member
Peroroncino
Member
This guy?
the other guy, who bosses this soy boy around
Haint
Member
Well I mean pretty much the only thing they ever advertised about Banishers was that it's an interracial romance, which is literally the most well known "woke" meme in Hollywood, advertising, media, and "white couple" Google images searches. The actual game may not be that bad, but for sure a lot of people's first impression was that this must be a walking caricature of liberal creative sensibilities. Game wouldn't have done gangbusters regardless, but it certainly wasn't helped by making that the key marketing focus.
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Roberts
Member
Jusant was an unexpected surprise. I was pretty sure there is nothing for me in it, but it turned out to be a gem. It is not a game for everybody so I have a feeling that the GP deal made the disappointing sales a bit more tolerable. And I really, really like Banishers even though I never finished it. It looks better than most AA games and has two main protagonists that are written by adults (a rarity in videogames).
VanCityGamer
Member
Just curious: what makes you say that? I highly doubt it will be bigger than Life is Strange.
captainnapalm
Member
Maybe if they'd made the black chick you're with in that Banishers game attractive, more guys would have bought the game. But these weirdoes couldn't even do that.
Denton
Member
I finished all Dontnod games except...Jusant and Banishers.
Jusant I tried on gamepass and found sleep-inducing, uninstalled after 90 minutes.
Banishers I saw bombing at launch with extremely low CCU and review count, so I decided to wait for deep sale/humble/gamepass.
I wonder how much to the bombing of Banishers contributes people's disinterest in playing strong powerful african american woman.
Jusant I tried on gamepass and found sleep-inducing, uninstalled after 90 minutes.
Banishers I saw bombing at launch with extremely low CCU and review count, so I decided to wait for deep sale/humble/gamepass.
I wonder how much to the bombing of Banishers contributes people's disinterest in playing strong powerful african american woman.
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Cyberpunkd
Member
The Cockatrice
Banned
Interracial relationships are woke now?
Its not new or woke however, and do note I havent played it yet, there has been an increased trend where the black woman undermines the white guy 90% of the time instead of being by their side. This is not just in games. If she's his lover and acts like it in the game, then cool. I still have it in my wishlist and Im sure most ppl would've bought it if it had a more unique setting, but it looks extremely generic for a fantasy game. I've seen videos of it and its just caves and some fields and a forest. Eh
Cyberpunkd
Member
You might be up to something because when I think of a generic black woman it’s some bitchy add sista giving shit to everyone.
Putonahappyface
Member
From what little I know from what is already out there, it's meant to be the next evolution to the Life is Strange franchise. 90s nostalgia alone has my curiosity. Similar wining formula to the original life is strange, but for a modern audience.
I like that the characters start off as young teens and then progress into adulthood later on in the game rather than just stay as teens. From the interviews I've watched the writing is top teir DON'T NOD doing what they're best at.
I'm more excited for Lost Records Bloom and Rage than I am for Deck Nine's Life is Strange: Double Exposure, as I think it's a potential cash grab so I'm pessimistic about buying on release. I definitely won't touch the game for a while that's for sure.
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PanzerCute
Member
Greedfall 2 releases in early access today on PC actually! Big fan of the first one, and I am replaying Steelrising at the moment. I love Spiders games too. Now lets hope that Dontnod and Focus make Vampyr 2.
Team Andromeda
Member
This is what I hate about modern gaming. Far too many people bitching about how wonderful the 16-bit or 32-bit days were, rather than buying totally brilliant modern games
The Cockatrice
Banned
Theres also a trend of using ugly black women instead of the tons of beautiful black women such as
but game developers only go with
I've said this many times but game developers and these DEI pushing nutcases are far more racists than gamers.
Duchess
Member
A shame. Both those games are on my to-play list.
Vampyr was great; that game was absolutely dripping with atmosphere. Sadly for me, it crashed constantly on PS4, which made it completely unplayable. I'm talking at least once an hour.
I'm looking forward to Life is Strange : Double Exposure, though. It will be cool to play as Max once more.
Vampyr was great; that game was absolutely dripping with atmosphere. Sadly for me, it crashed constantly on PS4, which made it completely unplayable. I'm talking at least once an hour.
I'm looking forward to Life is Strange : Double Exposure, though. It will be cool to play as Max once more.
The Cockatrice
Banned
Not made by DONTNOD so my expectations are low af. I didnt like Colors, wasted my time.
Panajev2001a
GAF's Pleasant Genius
Extremely sad news man.
More info on the purple site:
DON'T NOD: Jusant & Banishers well below expectations, two projects on ice, two projects "refocused to reach a wider audience". News
DON'T NOD published a PR for their investors and it looks like a profits warning. https://www.dontnod-bourse.com/en/financial-information/press-releases?ID=ACTUS-0-87839 tl;dr: Confirmation that Jusant & Banishers didn't do as well as expected It's 2024, and Life is Strange & Vampyr are still...www.resetera.com
Shit, Jusant looked amazing and I am so glad it got made (I did double support it).
Lord Malachite
Member
As much as I adore Max, I think that Deck Nine's Before The Storm had an even stronger story than the OG. Not played 2 or True Colors but I'll get to them eventually.
FingerBang
Member
Yep. Went climbing once and now I use they/them pronouns.
Thick Thighs Save Lives
NeoGAF's Physical Games Advocate Extraordinaire
That's a shame since I really enjoyed my time with Jusant, and I'm planning to import a physical copy from Canada.
As for Banishers, I've played the first 10h or so, but dropped it to play something else. I'll probably return to it sometime next year.
As for Banishers, I've played the first 10h or so, but dropped it to play something else. I'll probably return to it sometime next year.
FalsettoVibe
Member
Why be seemingly happy about this?
BbMajor7th
Member
I'm not overly shocked. I've not played either, but marketing was super limited and Banishers in particular (aside from having a daft name) lacks a memorable hook. It's another third-person action-adventure game with a historical fantasy setting that struggles to stand out among many similar titles. From a general audience's perspective, how do I sort it from A Plague Tale, Hellblade, Flintlock, Forspoken, Atlas Fallen, Greedfall, etc? And why wouldn't I just go with something better known, like the latest Assassin's Creed?
Denton
Member
I have a feeling it will be a death knell of Spiders. Very little hype for it, first ccu numbers seem not great, although it is obviously early.
I finished the first game, found it to be "ok 7/10" and do not have a huge enthusiasm for a sequel (and much less so in early access).
Sad news, these have been two games that I have enjoyed.
It's the state of the industry today, it doesn't matter if you do a good job in development and launch and it's also a good game, if it doesn't have enough following and visibility it has everything to fail to meet commercial expectations.
It's the state of the industry today, it doesn't matter if you do a good job in development and launch and it's also a good game, if it doesn't have enough following and visibility it has everything to fail to meet commercial expectations.
Miles708
Member
I have absolutely no memory of this. The marketing department failed hard.
Banishers is also such a bad name, i agree
In my opinion not really, especially considering they had support from a big publisher for this one.
All their games are designed very differently so it's hard to make comparison, i think it's fair to say none of their game is a masterpiece when it comes to gameplay or game-design (euphemism), so it more or less boils down to which game has the best setting, writing, atmosphere, original idea behind it.
And yeah Remember Me was its own thing in a way but i think Life is Strange 1 and Vampyr were their strongest ideas and with the best execution.
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hyperbertha
Member
Cod is bought because normies have extreme tunnel vision. Once they get entrenched into a franchise, they rarely move on. It's simple. Pick up and play. And normies need games they can play with friends. None of what you said is true. Normies are brain dead. Is all.
