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Druckmann: the fake shot trailer used to protect spoiling of TLOU2 got them in trouble, jokes Intergalactic would get less hate due to religion theme

LectureMaster

Gold Member


The story of The Last of Us 2 proved to be absolutely polarizing, with some players loving it, others hating it, and some subset of the latter group engaging in an ugly harassment campaign against the developers at Naughty Dog. The studio is now at work on Intergalactic: The Heretic Prophet, a sci-fi game about religion that director Neil Druckmann jokes will surely get less hate than The Last of Us 2 did.

Druckmann spoke about Intergalactic's fictional timeline with 28 Days Later writer and Civil War director Alex Garland as part of Sony's Creator to Creator podcast series. "I joke about this with the team," Druckmann said. "With The Last of Us 2, we made certain creative decisions that got us a lot of hate. A lot of people love it, but a lot of people hate that game."

"Who gives a shit," Garland quipped.

"Exactly. But the joke is like, you know what, let's do something that people won't care as much about. Let's make a game about faith and religion," Druckmann concluded.

While the statute of limitations for spoilers from a 2020 video game might be up, I'll still refrain from speaking too directly about the "creative decisions" Druckmann is alluding to, since a lot of new Last of Us fans are presumably about to experience them as part of season 2 of the TV show.

But when it comes to spoilers, Naughty Dog took some extreme measures to keep the story of The Last of Us 2 from getting ruined the first time around, too. "I've gotten in trouble, actually, because of trying to protect the story," Druckmann told Garland. "We released a trailer for The Last of Us 2 where we faked a shot, and we showed Joel somewhere where he would never make it to because of things that happened in that story as a deliberate way to throw off the scent. People that didn't like the game accused that of being false advertisement."

"Again, who gives a shit," Garland responded.

 

LectureMaster

Gold Member
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DrMano

Member
My reaction exactly.

It's one thing to stick to your creative vision and decision, it's another thing to completely disrespect any fans who have different opinions.

This is one of the reasons I hate modern industry.
They are incapable of articulating their creative vision, because they know well it won't stand up to even mild scrutiny. They don't even hide their agenda-filled malice anymore lol.
I personally don't go attacking these cunts on public social media since its a cesspool and waste of mental energy but i fully cheer on the people who do ha
 

Embearded

Member
I totally agree with Garland about the story part.
Writers should be free to write whatever they want and handle their characters whichever way they think fits their story.
The intentionally misleading trailer is not a favorite of mine. I get why they did that, but it sucks a bit.
 

saintjules

Member
The intentionally misleading trailer is not a favorite of mine. I get why they did that, but it sucks a bit.

I didn't mind the fake out personally and didn't affect my perception of the game during release.

I never expected the golf / death situation to get that crazy in terms of fan reaction. Again, something that didn't make me hate the game in any way. I wish I would have seen what the reaction would have been if it wasn't leaked prior to release.
 

ZehDon

Member
Based on the hamfisted handling of religion in his writing to date, Druckmann's probably not the person to tackle these topics. Feels like it's just another common sci-fi trope (see: Star Trek V) as opposed to an organic topic of choice.

In the end, it's his story and now it's his company, so he's free to do whatever he wants.
 

Puscifer

Member
This Garland dude sounds like a cunt
Dudes written and directed some of the best movies of all time, so yeah, no. He's just one for adhering to your creative vision regardless of what "fans" want. But video games are way different than movies in that there has to a certain sense of fan appeasement which Druckmann absolutely didn't care about.

I will say my opinions on the story of TLOU PT2 aren't as positive as they were at first but I gotta appreciate the sheer balls on him for writing it and Sony for allowing it to happen.
 
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yurinka

Member
This game will 100% piss off certain religious people (from any religion).
I'm 100% sure it will play the victim card and only attack christians. It will be 2000 years after their prophet and he's jew. He won't have balls of attacking jews or wokism.

He viewed Nate and Joel not only as white heterosexual men, but also as christians, which he mentioned considered as the standard for game protagonists (I never thought about game characters being from any religion).
 
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TVexperto

Member
I think Marvel did something similiar with Infinity War and Endgame .. and Spiderman .. showing Ironman and SPiderman swinging and flying together through new york
 

Strategize

Member
I would've done the same thing with the fake trailers tbh.
This Garland dude sounds like a cunt
Sounds based tbh. Who gives a shit what "fans" want, that's a one way ticket to soulless corporate slop. The only time you listen to fans is with technical details like patching bugs and balancing issues, but story? Fuck outta here, go write your own fanfiction.
 
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we all know it will attack Christians.
Yep. It's going to be about "religion" but will speak about the dangers of those fanaticals Christians (they'll disguise christians by something else obviously) who constantly commit atrocities in the name of their faith around the world.

Very realistic like TLOU2 story about a group of buffed women becoming the rulers in a post-apocalyptical world infested by zombies.

Those people coming up with those fantasies are the true religious nuts.
 
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DrMano

Member
I would've done the same thing with the fake trailers tbh.

Sounds based tbh. Who gives a shit what "fans" want, that's a one way ticket to soulless corporate slop. The only time you listen to fans is with technical details like patching bugs and balancing issues, but story? Fuck outta here, go write your own fanfiction.
Lol can't tell if your trolling or delulu
 
What a miserably boring and overdone idea.
"DAE what if religion not good and bad actually?" There is zero chance it'll go any deeper than that and is the second time Cuckmann is writing about it.

I know none of the people who pretend to love TLOU2 ever talk about what happens in it, but as someone who actually paid attention to the terribly written story, a large chunk of the story and game is dedicated to a cartoonishly evil religious cult. It'll be that but stretched to the entire game. And for a hint of how much it will resonate with people, when did you last hear TLOU2 Stans talk anything about the cult? Yeah, exactly.
 

mdkirby

Gold Member
Sounds good. Questioning and critiquing religion was the biggest recurring theme of my artistic expression as an artist growing up in a very religious catholic school. So I can definitely relate. Should be interesting.
 

Shtof

Member
But when it comes to spoilers, Naughty Dog took some extreme measures to keep the story of The Last of Us 2 from getting ruined the first time around, too. "I've gotten in trouble, actually, because of trying to protect the story," Druckmann told Garland. "We released a trailer for The Last of Us 2 where we faked a shot, and we showed Joel somewhere where he would never make it to because of things that happened in that story as a deliberate way to throw off the scent. People that didn't like the game accused that of being false advertisement."

"Again, who gives a shit," Garland responded.

Awesome. Imagine how much of a loser you gotta be to complain about what a storyteller does to his own story.

Gigachad Neil.
 

Clear

CliffyB's Cock Holster
Yeah, get captured by the audience and only give them what they want and expect and next thing you know they'll be bored and demand something new!

There's a fine line between pandering to and antagonizing the audience that ultimately only the creatives can draw.
 

Camreezie

Member
Druckmann: i subverted my audiences expectations knowing they'd be mad and took it as a challenge

Also Druckmann: they got so mad when i mislead them

Death threats are obviously bullshit but this dude knew that he was getting himself in for a truckload of hate and was being provocative af pre TLOU 2 if you remember what he was ssying before the game hit
 
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realcool

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The story of The Last of Us 2 proved to be absolutely polarizing, with some players loving it, others hating it, and some subset of the latter group engaging in an ugly harassment campaign against the developers at Naughty Dog. The studio is now at work on Intergalactic: The Heretic Prophet, a sci-fi game about religion that director Neil Druckmann jokes will surely get less hate than The Last of Us 2 did.

Druckmann spoke about Intergalactic's fictional timeline with 28 Days Later writer and Civil War director Alex Garland as part of Sony's Creator to Creator podcast series. "I joke about this with the team," Druckmann said. "With The Last of Us 2, we made certain creative decisions that got us a lot of hate. A lot of people love it, but a lot of people hate that game."

"Who gives a shit," Garland quipped.

"Exactly. But the joke is like, you know what, let's do something that people won't care as much about. Let's make a game about faith and religion," Druckmann concluded.

While the statute of limitations for spoilers from a 2020 video game might be up, I'll still refrain from speaking too directly about the "creative decisions" Druckmann is alluding to, since a lot of new Last of Us fans are presumably about to experience them as part of season 2 of the TV show.

But when it comes to spoilers, Naughty Dog took some extreme measures to keep the story of The Last of Us 2 from getting ruined the first time around, too. "I've gotten in trouble, actually, because of trying to protect the story," Druckmann told Garland. "We released a trailer for The Last of Us 2 where we faked a shot, and we showed Joel somewhere where he would never make it to because of things that happened in that story as a deliberate way to throw off the scent. People that didn't like the game accused that of being false advertisement."

"Again, who gives a shit," Garland responded.

Neil's greatest achievement was when he shattered people's rose-tinted glasses and revealed that the emperor has no clothes.
 
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