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Didn't see anyone mention it in the thread but for people who don't listen to Frame Trap, Kyle/Ben confirmed that Huber and Kyle will be doing a Evil Within 2 Full Playthrough Stream next week.
This Sunday actually.
Didn't see anyone mention it in the thread but for people who don't listen to Frame Trap, Kyle/Ben confirmed that Huber and Kyle will be doing a Evil Within 2 Full Playthrough Stream next week.
Don't really get why Ben was fuming like that in the beginning of Frame Trap. Most of it seemed to be self inflicted -- getting worked up over rumours rather than the game itself, him saying he had only put an hour into the game made that whole rant sound extra dumb. If I'd want to play the game I'd just grab whichever version was most convenient to get, ignore the lootboxes, play the game and judge the game based on that.
I get that it's a video games podcast but maybe take a step back and get some perspective...and maybe take a break from those places where you heard those rumours from too.
Don't really get why Ben was fuming like that in the beginning of Frame Trap. Most of it seemed to be self inflicted -- getting worked up over rumours rather than the game itself, him saying he had only put an hour into the game made that whole rant sound extra dumb. If I'd want to play the game I'd just grab whichever version was most convenient to get, ignore the lootboxes, play the game and judge the game based on that.
I get that it's a video games podcast but maybe take a step back and get some perspective...and maybe take a break from those places where you heard those rumours from too.
It seemed like a more general rant about LootBoxes, with SoW being just a jump off point.
Totally disagreeDon't really get why Ben was fuming like that in the beginning of Frame Trap. Most of it seemed to be self inflicted -- getting worked up over rumours rather than the game itself, him saying he had only put an hour into the game made that whole rant sound extra dumb. If I'd want to play the game I'd just grab whichever version was most convenient to get, ignore the lootboxes, play the game and judge the game based on that.
I get that it's a video games podcast but maybe take a step back and get some perspective...and maybe take a break from those places where you heard those rumours from too.
Don't really get why Ben was fuming like that in the beginning of Frame Trap. Most of it seemed to be self inflicted -- getting worked up over rumours rather than the game itself, him saying he had only put an hour into the game made that whole rant sound extra dumb. If I'd want to play the game I'd just grab whichever version was most convenient to get, ignore the lootboxes, play the game and judge the game based on that.
I get that it's a video games podcast but maybe take a step back and get some perspective...and maybe take a break from those places where you heard those rumours from too.
Even if we never buy into any microtransaction and always get the base version... these things are now part of our thoughts and considerations.
This Sunday actually.
The horror.
Great discussion.The horror.
The horror.
The horror.This Sunday is "next week", Sunday = Start of the week in multiple countries.
The horror.
This Sunday is "next week", Sunday = Start of the week in multiple countries.
I learned this only recently. Blew my mind, I didnt want to believe. I still dont, really.Not in my world dammit.
it's not ok that now, when buying a game, consumers have to check whether such or such game activity will cost them more money, and does this game still play well if they don't shell out more. It doesn't sound crazy to me that you'd get annoyed at this.
It came off more like him having just read an extra spicy twitter chain or neogaf thread about that topic and having gotten in the mood to grab some pitchforks and go "won't someone think of the children!"
Providing a review copy or having an event that doesn't cover IAPs much would also sort of reaffirm that the game is standing on its own and that the IAPs are purely optional.
I feel like I often push your buttons a lot Visceir, for whatever reason, and I'm not trying to. But to say that discussion wasn't genuine is untrue.
The larger point is that video game companies are using every manipulative psychological trick in the book to take money from you at every turn. Even if you ignore the loot boxes, they plant those seeds so you feel like you're missing out (which is the whole reason they do it). Blaming the player for feeling what game companies want you to feel instead of the game companies themselves seems messed up. It's like arguing that those Flintstones cigarette ads should still be shown on TV because kids could just ignore it if they wanted to.Don't really get why Ben was fuming like that in the beginning of Frame Trap. Most of it seemed to be self inflicted -- getting worked up over rumours rather than the game itself, him saying he had only put an hour into the game made that whole rant sound extra dumb. If I'd want to play the game I'd just grab whichever version was most convenient to get, ignore the lootboxes, play the game and judge the game based on that.
I get that it's a video games podcast but maybe take a step back and get some perspective...and maybe take a break from those places where you heard those rumours from too.
You're making all sorts of bold claims, lol. In the end it's still just a flavor of the month outrage topic for games media that will be forgotten about come Odyssey, Ben is just catching the tail end of it...which makes it all the more uninteresting. Bosman and Brad seemed rather indifferent about it too, I imagine it's not very important to the majority of people who buy and play games as it's not invasive to the point that it warrants the kind of reaction Ben had....a reaction based on rumours that turned out to be not true.
Hey man, if you didn't like the rant that's fine, but I think you're really selling the talk short. It was not just a "hey let's be outraged". I tried to talk about a topic that I actually feel is a genuine problem bringing up personal perspectives, a history of how transactions changed over time, and how it's ludicrous the byzantine things people have to try to understand when purchasing a game.
I feel like I often push your buttons a lot Visceir, for whatever reason, and I'm not trying to. But to say that discussion wasn't genuine is untrue.
Don't you think that it sounds unfair and exceptionally cynical to roll your eyes and go "you're just capitalizing on flavor of the month" or "just reading NeoGAF". That's really, really easy to do. To make that kind of argument. I think it's much, much harder to actually take the argument at face value and consider what it's saying.
Shadow of War wasn't really the point, either? I feel like we talked about Battlefront II much more and to me is the more dramatic issue.
You're making all sorts of bold claims, lol. In the end it's still just a flavor of the month outrage topic for games media that will be forgotten about come Odyssey, Ben is just catching the tail end of it...which makes it all the more uninteresting. Bosman and Brad seemed rather indifferent about it too, I imagine it's not very important to the majority of people who buy and play games as it's not invasive to the point that it warrants the kind of reaction Ben had....a reaction based on rumours that turned out to be not true.
Thanks for taking the time to say the right things. Don't let the negativity get to you, in the previous pages there is a lot of positive reactions to that discussion.
Absolutely and that's a good point. There have been many positive reactions. And I don't want people to feel like they can't voice their concerns. I just personally think that responding is good. I hope to further the conversation.
Yeah, that got me good. Fun episode in general.Todays TTE was amazing.
Kylewas unexpected & hilarious.tying Uncle Vapors letter into Laws/the main campaigns backstory
You're making all sorts of bold claims, lol. In the end it's still just a flavor of the month outrage topic for games media
You're making all sorts of bold claims, lol. In the end it's still just a flavor of the month outrage topic for games media that will be forgotten about come Odyssey, Ben is just catching the tail end of it...which makes it all the more uninteresting. Bosman and Brad seemed rather indifferent about it too, I imagine it's not very important to the majority of people who buy and play games as it's not invasive to the point that it warrants the kind of reaction Ben had....a reaction based on rumours that turned out to be not true.
Is there anywhere i can find out more information about the new show Kyle is working on (as discussed at start of Frame Trap?). Wanna know what it's going to be about.
Is there anywhere i can find out more information about the new show Kyle is working on (as discussed at start of Frame Trap?). Wanna know what it's going to be about.
Is there anywhere i can find out more information about the new show Kyle is working on (as discussed at start of Frame Trap?). Wanna know what it's going to be about.
The desktop site and mobile/android app do have a search function, that's how I found the "delay" one (just googled the other two).TIL Patreon doesn't have a search function.
The fuck? This is stupid as shit.
Just a few Patreon posts about it so far:
Original Announcment
Funded Announcement
"Delay" Announcement
The desktop site and mobile/android app do have a search function, that's how I found the "delay" one (just googled the other two).
Absolutely and that's a good point. There have been many positive reactions. And I don't want people to feel like they can't voice their concerns. I just personally think that responding is good. I hope to further the conversation.