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Elon Musk vs Asmongold as Elon is caught lying about his PoE2 account

I think this is not that strong argument people think it is. It is reasonable to say that the stewardship after that “incident” is what sees Tesla’s valuation being what it is today. Even back then there is an under-appreciation of what happened. Like Jobs contested Apple in the John Sculley / Gil Amelio days, a great idea is not 90% of the work or guaranteed success, there is a lot of hard work and grit required to turn it into a viable commercial endeavour. He was running the company with them and then on his own and the company grew, by a lot.

Aside that SpaceX achieved even more and similar accusations cannot be made. Starlink as well. We’ll see what happens with xAI.

Don't forget Neuralink. And he also co-founded OpenAI - which ushered in the Large Language Model AI revolution with ChatGPT. It's insane really.

I get why people don't want to defend him - but the amount of falsehoods perpetuating about Musk online at the moment probably outweigh Trump. This meme that he's basically just a guy with money is really strong - but it just happens to be bogus.

Where the problem with Musk comes in he's definitely somewhat autistic, had an absolutely brutal childhood being bullied, and had a super tough father who pushed him hard but provided no emotional support. Not hard to see where some of his problems come from.

But for me he's easily a net positive for society - even setting aside all his companies, which all do good things - he's also the only major figure who speaks out against wokeness and the damage it's doing to western civilization. And his decision to buy Twitter was hugely important because it released the stranglehold of censorship that was beginning to emerge between governments and Silicon Valley. Zuckerberg just recently announced he was ditching fake "fact-checkers" on all his social media platforms in favour of Community Notes - so no more top-down government-enforced censorship on Facebook and Instagram. That doesn't happen without Musk either. And he had to take massive heat for that.
 
What Elon achievements?
He it’s not an engineer. He didn’t have and input in Tesla or rockets. Why are we not hearing interviews with engineers?
He is a rich kid with mind for business. That’s it.
Correct, he just got the money and his engineers do all the heavy lifting while he's busy talking bullshit on the internet.
 
Being the richest man in the world and being the best business man in world aren't the same thing. A bunch of people on here seem unaware of how elons amassed his wealth so here's the cliff notes.

The vast majority of Elons wealth is in Tesla shares. He has about 20% of tesla shares. Tesla is nearly always in the top 10 most valuable companies in the world.

However while tesla has become a very successful company they are seriously overvalued. In revenue they barely make the top 50.

In profit they barely make the top 150

If Elon Musk is good at one thing its self promotion and hype. Tesla valuation is based on pure Hype and BS. E.g. FSD, 40k Cybertruck, Floating Roadster, 20 million cars a year by 2030 etc etc.

If it was based on actual business metrics it's valuation would be 10 times smaller
 

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dont care bout no assmongold and this crud game Elon wants to kill woke me must support him
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