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[Doom85]

I can beat to it thought

Bazinga!

Whichever actress is more attractive aside, the issue with Alba’s Sue is that in the comics Sue is a genius, not on a the level of Reed, but still extremely brilliant. I can buy Vanessa Kirby as highly intelligent, whereas watching Jessica Alba trying to play Sue that way is as convincing as watching an elementary school production of Hamlet.

 

[ProtoByte]

I forgot about Johnny.

Huge miscast. Joseph Quinn is a less convincing blond than Jessica Alba in 2005.

 

[rkofan87]

Sue is an absolute smoke show

the only good thing was atj.

 

[Irobot82]

So this looks retro-future or something. I assume this is on a different multi-verse Earth?

 

[ManaByte]

So this looks retro-future or something. I assume this is on a different multi-verse Earth?

Our New York didn’t look like that in the 60s.

 

[jason10mm]

Whichever actress is more attractive aside, the issue with Alba’s Sue is that in the comics Sue is a genius, not on a the level of Reed, but still extremely brilliant. I can buy Vanessa Kirby as highly intelligent, whereas watching Jessica Alba trying to play Sue that way is as convincing as watching an elementary school production of Hamlet.

Rivaled only by Denise Richards' turn as nuclear physicist Christmas Noel in that Bond film.

I know some SMOKING HOT really smart women but it is a very hard role to pull off.

 

[ManaByte]

Since the rage merchants have never picked up a F4 comic in their life, this universe’s Surfer is based on Frankie Raye who in the comics was a girl Johnny was dating only to find out she was the herald of Galactus. It’s not known if that storyline is in the movie or not. She went on later to be Nova.

Nova (Frankie Raye) - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[Miyazaki’s Slave]

Also...not saying they didn't use AI for the image BUT a lot of them have three fingers.

Spoiler

Could be a an obvious reference to the multiverse setting. Im guessing "Jetsons-esq Earth" gets wiped in the first 25 min)

 

[Doom85]

Rivaled only by Denise Richards' turn as nuclear physicist Christmas Noel in that Bond film.

I know some SMOKING HOT really smart women but it is a very hard role to pull off.

Oh, good example. I knew there was another one I was thinking of, and I finally got it, Tara Reid being an archaeologist in the Alone in the Dark movie……although for THAT film that’s merely one mistake in a MOUNTAIN of mistakes when it comes to that film.

 

[ManaByte]

 

[yet_another_alt]

It doesn't look bad.

 

[MonkD]

I forgot about Johnny.

Huge miscast. Joseph Quinn is a less convincing blond than Jessica Alba in 2005.

At least use images of 616 Johnny. Disgusting Ultimate Greg Land is not something anyone wants to see.

 

[tamago84]

thing really reminds me of some other character

 

[ManaByte]

thing really reminds me of some other character

That's what he's supposed to look like though. For the first time we get a comic accurate Thing.

What I find interesting about this trailer is how much it drives home just home well The Incredibles nailed the Fantastic Four vibe even with the retro future vibe.

Funnily enough, The Incredibles made Fox change the ending to their first F4 movie. Originally the ending of the F4 movie had Mole Man appearing, but because of the Underminer ending in The Incredibles they changed it.

Loved just about everything from this trailer. The focus is not on the action or abilities but on the emotions and bond of the team. Thats the right choice for this team; they are primarily adventurers before "superheroes"

The best way to describe F4 is Marvel's Lost in Space. It's ALWAYS been a family sitcom about explorers who just happened to have super powers. Matt Fraction's run on F4 understood that assignment when he literally made them lost in space and it was awesome.

The way I see this going is:

Galactus comes to Earth. The F4 are the only heroes on this alternate Earth. They try to defeat him, fail, and their Earth is destroyed. Reed, the F4, and Doom escape their universe using Reed's multiverse bridge and arrive in the 616 universe in present day.

In Doomsday, Doom tries to use Reed's multiverse tech to take over the multiverse but causes incursions everywhere and EVERYTHING is destroyed.

The movies released between Doomsday and Secret Wars (Spider-Man and possibly Doctor Strange 3) are set on Battleworld.

Secret Wars is then Endgame x9000 with Hugh Jackman, Toby Maguire, and every MCU & Fox on-screen character vs Doom. Doom's defeated and possibly Franklin Richards creates the new MCU with existing characters, the X-Men, F4, Spider-Man, and old characters recast (Black Panther, Cap, Widow, IM) all existing in the same universe for the first time.

 

[tamago84]

i googled the voice for him. ofc it was the bear thats where its from

 

[Heimdall_Xtreme]

 

[Soapbox Killer]

That's what he's supposed to look like though. For the first time we get a comic accurate Thing.


Funnily enough, The Incredibles made Fox change the ending to their first F4 movie. Originally the ending of the F4 movie had Mole Man appearing, but because of the Underminer ending in The Incredibles they changed it.



The best way to describe F4 is Marvel's Lost in Space. It's ALWAYS been a family sitcom about explorers who just happened to have super powers. Matt Fraction's run on F4 understood that assignment when he literally made them lost in space and it was awesome.

The way I see this going is:

Galactus comes to Earth. The F4 are the only heroes on this alternate Earth. They try to defeat him, fail, and their Earth is destroyed. Reed, the F4, and Doom escape their universe using Reed's multiverse bridge and arrive in the 616 universe in present day.

In Doomsday, Doom tries to use Reed's multiverse tech to take over the multiverse but causes incursions everywhere and EVERYTHING is destroyed.

The movies released between Doomsday and Secret Wars (Spider-Man and possibly Doctor Strange 3) are set on Battleworld.

Secret Wars is then Endgame x9000 with Hugh Jackman, Toby Maguire, and every MCU & Fox on-screen character vs Doom. Doom's defeated and possibly Franklin Richards creates the new MCU with existing characters, the X-Men, F4, Spider-Man, and old characters recast (Black Panther, Cap, Widow, IM) all existing in the same universe for the first time.

I agree. It's what "has" to happen although, I don't know if this is Doom Secret Wars or the other guy...and since he's only been mentioned on the Cartoon Moon Girl and Devil Dinasaur, I hazard to think they are bringing him to the big screen yet. Although he was voiced Larry Fishbourne so there is some pedigree there.

i googled the voice for him. ofc it was the bear thats where its from

Which makes it all the more funny when The Thing taste the soup that the robot was making.

 

[PSlayer]

is it weird that i think the costumes from the cancelled 90s movie look better?

 

[DKehoe]

 

[tamago84]

Which makes it all the more funny when The Thing taste the soup that the robot was making.

Yes, im like wtf I recall this scene somewhere…and that voice!!

 

[Chairman Yang]

This looks cool, and I love the retrofuturist aesthetic. First Marvel movie I'm interested in for a long time.

 

[Kacho]

Since the rage merchants have never picked up a F4 comic in their life, this universe’s Surfer is based on Frankie Raye who in the comics was a girl Johnny was dating only to find out she was the herald of Galactus. It’s not known if that storyline is in the movie or not. She went on later to be Nova.

Nova (Frankie Raye) - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

No one cares.

 

[Trogdor1123]

No one cares.

Lots of people care… people want a proper surfer.

 

[Kacho]

Lots of people care… people want a proper surfer.

No one cares about obscure comic book lore. When people hear Silver Surfer they think of Norrin Radd. That's who people want in a Fantastic Four movie.

 

[jason10mm]

No one cares about obscure comic book lore. When people hear Silver Surfer they think of Norrin Radd. That's who people want in a Fantastic Four movie.

Nah, they give her a sleek silver body with puffy nipples and cameltoe...no one gonna complain then

After all, it's comic book movie canon...right?

 

[Trogdor1123]

No one cares about obscure comic book lore. When people hear Silver Surfer they think of Norrin Radd. That's who people want in a Fantastic Four movie.

Oh i misunderstood your comment then.

I completely agree

 

[poodaddy]

Just watched it.

Just didn't appeal for some reason. I'm actually kind of a Marvel fan boy too, but FF just never really grabbed me. Doesn't make me mad either, I think the film will probably be fine, but it just didn't make me wanna watch it. I will admit that I think Thing looks pretty bad, but I like Pedro as Reed, he seems to work. Galactus is a big deal villain for Marvel, but I've always found him a bit boring admittedly, however I love Doom, so I might skip this one but I hope they set Doom up pretty well and that his next appearance is pretty compelling. Overall, I don't begrudge people being excited or disappointed; I suppose I could empathize with both emotions in equal measure if I cared about FF more.

 

[taizuke]

As of now it looks like a Disney+ movie.

 

[ManaByte]

is it weird that i think the costumes from the cancelled 90s movie look better?

That was the best F4 movie until now. Shame Avi Arad destroyed the negative. I’d love a HD release.

 

[ManaByte]

I agree. It's what "has" to happen although, I don't know if this is Doom Secret Wars or the other guy...and since he's only been mentioned on the Cartoon Moon Girl and Devil Dinasaur, I hazard to think they are bringing him to the big screen yet. Although he was voiced Larry Fishbourne so there is some pedigree there.

It’s Doom Secret Wars. Always was based on the Hickman one, most of the MCU is built off Hickman.

Beyonder was going to be a Kang variant in the MCU. But he was a dumbass.

 

[Doom85]

most of the MCU is built off Hickman.

I can’t comment on certain character/runs, but:

Avengers 1 having Loki as the villain seems inspired from the very first Avengers issue ever as he was also the villain there.
Avengers 2 draws from Ultron Unlimited (despite ironically there being an Age of Ultron comic, but the movie has nothing in common with the comic despite the same name) by Kurt Busiek.
Winter Soldier is mostly Ed Brubaker inspired.
Civil War does change almost everything from the comic, but still the comic is Mark Millar.
Infinity War/Endgame obviously changes a ton as well, but draws primarily from Infinity Gauntlet by Jim Starlin (yes, I know Hickman’s Infinity was relevant as well, but Thanos successfully wiping out half the universe is all Infinity Gauntlet).
Hawkeye is heavily based on the Matt Fraction run.
Thor 4 draws mostly from Jason Aaron to my knowledge.

And then even with Hickman’s Avengers run, I can’t imagine the films of Guardians of the Galaxy, Ant-man, Black Panther, Captain Marvel, Shang-Chi, etc. and the shows of WandaVison, Falcon, Moon Knight, Ms. Marvel, etc. were influenced by Hickman’s work much, especially since outside of Avengers, he’s mostly done Fantastic Four and X-men whose films were all written as non-MCU films (so I’m not counting them being retconned in, talking about how they were originally written) until Deadpool and Wolverine.

And while the MCU FF films may draw from Hickman’s runs (but I’d be very shocked if they don’t take plenty from other beloved runs like John Byrne’s and Mark Waid’s), I feel it’s unlikely the X-men films will draw from Hickman anytime soon. I feel Krakoa is a concept that works best if mutants have been around for a long time in a continuity like the comic stories obviously did, but for a whole new cast of X-men in the MCU films, rushing into Krakoa would be confusing and could easily alienate viewers from the new cast (as the concept in the comics did alienate some readers and that was in spite of there being decades of stories of mutant persecution in the comics that would logically lead the X-men to finally carry out a plan like this, so a new MCU X-men cast pulling a Krakoa would feel massively unearned).

And now Hickman in terms of Marvel seems mostly interested in working in the new Ultimate Marvel universe, and given its vastly different status quo due to the specific nature of its creation and how its timeline played out, I highly doubt it will influence the MCU much for the foreseeable future.

 

[ManaByte]

Winter Soldier is mostly Ed Brubaker inspired.

Shield being Hydra is an adaptation of Hickman’s miniseries.

Infinity War/Endgame obviously changes a ton as well, but draws primarily from Infinity Gauntlet by Jim Starlin (yes, I know Hickman’s Infinity was relevant as well, but Thanos successfully wiping out half the universe is all Infinity Gauntlet).

The Black Order were at the time the fastest comic to screen adaptation for Marvel.

 

[Doom85]

Shield being Hydra is an adaptation of Hickman’s miniseries.

The Black Order were at the time the fastest comic to screen adaptation for Marvel.

-sure, but I was primarily talking about the Bucky element. Also, to my understanding, the concept of SHIELD being infiltrated with HYDRA was actually first explored in Warren Ellis’ Nextwave (but with the organizations having different names because it was supposed to be non-canon but then it was changed to canon later)

-and they’re largely irrelevant except for action scene purposes save for Ebony Maw, and Thanos himself is given all the characterization, especially in Endgame

 

[Soapbox Killer]

It’s Doom Secret Wars. Always was based on the Hickman one, most of the MCU is built off Hickman.

Beyonder was going to be a Kang variant in the MCU. But he was a dumbass.

Beyonder as a Kang variant is pretty stupid on the surface but in fairness, I've never been a huge Kang fan and I wasn't too thrilled by what the MCU did with him either. It all looked hokey....


Wait, are you saying DOOM wasn't always the main baddie for Secret Wars?

 

[DeafTourette]

Beyonder as a Kang variant is pretty stupid on the surface but in fairness, I've never been a huge Kang fan and I wasn't too thrilled by what the MCU did with him either. It all looked hokey....


Wait, are you saying DOOM wasn't always the main baddie for Secret Wars?

Nope. What is now "Avengers: Doomsday" was once "Avengers: Kang Dynasty" ... It was announced like 5 years ago.

Kang was to be the big bad of the whole Multiverse Saga

 

[Soapbox Killer]

Nope. What is now "Avengers: Doomsday" was once "Avengers: Kang Dynasty" ... It was announced like 5 years ago.

Kang was to be the big bad of the whole Multiverse Saga

FUCK?! I knew there was The Kang Dynasty but I still thought it was leading to DOOM especially with there being a Fantastic Four movie coming out first. I know Kang fights Reed multiple times in the comics and I think he (Kang) is a direct descendant of Reed but having the whole thing center around weak ass Kang was a choice before Johnathan Majors fumbled the bad.


Maybe it could have worked but I have serious reservations about all of that.

 

[adamsapple]

‘The Fantastic Four: First Steps’ Trailer Flies to Phenomenal 200M-Plus Views in First Day

The inaugural spot for the movie scored one of the biggest starts in recent memory for a Marvel Studios title, behind 'Deadpool & Wolverine.'

www.hollywoodreporter.com

The first trailer for "The Fantastic Four: First Steps" flew to 202 million viewers in its first 24 hours across all platforms to mark one of the best lift-offs for a Marvel Studios' title in recent memory, behind the record-shattering Deadpool & Wolverine.

Cast members Pedro Pascal, Ebon Moss-Bachrach, Joseph Quinn and Vanessa Kirby traveled to the U.S. Space and Rocket Center in Huntsville, Alabama, to assist in unveiling a first glimpse of the movie, which aims to reboot the iconic comic-book franchise. (Kevin Feige's Marvel Studios gained control of the Fantastic Four series after the Disney-Fox merger, including full rights to Deadpool).