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Flat Earthers Are Going To Antarctica To Prove Earth is Flat!

Bitmap Frogs

Mr. Community
Great write up. There's a reason the catholic church loves killing science and scientists in general.

Catholic church hasn't done that in centuries and is pretty pro-science these days. When it comes to modern anti-intellectualism anti-science, it's mostly coming from american evangelicals.
 

jason10mm

Gold Member
Catholic church hasn't done that in centuries and is pretty pro-science these days. When it comes to modern anti-intellectualism anti-science, it's mostly coming from american evangelicals.
Not even that, really. Hell, there are TONS of american universities, hospitals, and research centers funded by religious organizations that are 100% about science, even if they are governed in policy by their specific religious doctrine. Calling any of these places anti-intellectualist (and certainly anti-science) is disingenuous at best. Also consider the radical "anti-science" positions held by some non-religious "socially progressive" camps (stuff like gender reassignment, covid treatments, etc) and it's pretty obvious that these things are linked by political ideology and each of the various camps has their strengths and weaknesses with regards to "science is king!" applicability over essentially a faith-based worldview.
 

Bitmap Frogs

Mr. Community
Not even that, really. Hell, there are TONS of american universities, hospitals, and research centers funded by religious organizations that are 100% about science, even if they are governed in policy by their specific religious doctrine. Calling any of these places anti-intellectualist (and certainly anti-science) is disingenuous at best. Also consider the radical "anti-science" positions held by some non-religious "socially progressive" camps (stuff like gender reassignment, covid treatments, etc) and it's pretty obvious that these things are linked by political ideology and each of the various camps has their strengths and weaknesses with regards to "science is king!" applicability over essentially a faith-based worldview.

About 30% of Americans are biblical literalists and that’s around the % evangelicals who are the ones still holding the flag of literalism.

Go tell them about carbon dating dinosaurs 🦖
 

jason10mm

Gold Member
About 30% of Americans are biblical literalists and that’s around the % evangelicals who are the ones still holding the flag of literalism.

Go tell them about carbon dating dinosaurs 🦖
Maybe, but at least they can tell the difference between a boy and a girl.

My point is that everyone has a science gap somewhere, EVERYONE. The guy building particle accelerators may also think Hollow Earth may be real or mRNA vaccines are 100% safe and understood. A woman designing rockets to go into space may also think she is a reincarnated Queen of England. These things are not mutually exclusive.
 

EviLore

Expansive Ellipses
Staff Member
My point is that everyone has a science gap somewhere, EVERYONE. The guy building particle accelerators may also think Hollow Earth may be real or mRNA vaccines are 100% safe and understood. A woman designing rockets to go into space may also think she is a reincarnated Queen of England.
A few outliers who engage in quackery, but it’s rare.
 

diffusionx

Gold Member
flat earth is a CIA op to make people who don't believe official stories/narratives look crazy.

Even if it is true, it does not matter at all.
 
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jason10mm

Gold Member
A few outliers who engage in quackery, but it’s rare.
Eh, EVERYONE has something. One guy won't walk under a ladder, another won't willingly step on a crack, the third won't let his food touch each other on a plate. The line between phobia, superstition, OCD behavior, and "anti-science" or "religious nonsense" is kinda blurry because they are all irrational thoughts. I'd actually argue that a staunch flat earther, like a real die hard one, who is also a bartender or postman or whatever, the flat earth belief impacts their life LESS than a doctor who thinks a black cat running in front of her means a day of bad luck and then proceeds to cancel all their appointments out of fear of making a mistake. Believing in a flat earth, other than maybe how it could direct your voting, really has zero negative effect on others around you, so as bizarre as it is, it's pretty harmless. Belief that sugar is okay to consume in great quantity each day and therefore liquid sugar drinks should be sold everywhere is, to me, a FAR more dangerous "belief" as it is killing thousands every day.
 

EviLore

Expansive Ellipses
Staff Member
Eh, EVERYONE has something. One guy won't walk under a ladder, another won't willingly step on a crack, the third won't let his food touch each other on a plate. The line between phobia, superstition, OCD behavior, and "anti-science" or "religious nonsense" is kinda blurry because they are all irrational thoughts. I'd actually argue that a staunch flat earther, like a real die hard one, who is also a bartender or postman or whatever, the flat earth belief impacts their life LESS than a doctor who thinks a black cat running in front of her means a day of bad luck and then proceeds to cancel all their appointments out of fear of making a mistake. Believing in a flat earth, other than maybe how it could direct your voting, really has zero negative effect on others around you, so as bizarre as it is, it's pretty harmless. Belief that sugar is okay to consume in great quantity each day and therefore liquid sugar drinks should be sold everywhere is, to me, a FAR more dangerous "belief" as it is killing thousands every day.
I know a lot of people at the cutting edge of science and technology, and it’s really not as you describe.
 

jason10mm

Gold Member
flat earth is a CIA op to make people who don't believe official stories/narratives look crazy.
Even if it is true, it does not matter at all.


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Not true!!!! The premise of this film, if you are unfamilar (and its like 20 years old so I understand) is that a conspiracy kook just happens to come up with a true theory and thus must be "silenced".

I think we've looooong moved past the idea that there are NO conspiracies, they clearly exist. So rather than squash the idea of conspiracies at all, its gone the other way and we are DROWNING in theories/misinformation because it turns out to be a more effective way to hide the truth. Don't deny or hide the evidence of bigfoot, just swamp it with fake stories/evidence of loch ness, the chupacabra, and reptilians so no one believes the truth of bigfeet :p
 

Rentahamster

Rodent Whores
Eh, EVERYONE has something. One guy won't walk under a ladder, another won't willingly step on a crack, the third won't let his food touch each other on a plate. The line between phobia, superstition, OCD behavior, and "anti-science" or "religious nonsense" is kinda blurry because they are all irrational thoughts. I'd actually argue that a staunch flat earther, like a real die hard one, who is also a bartender or postman or whatever, the flat earth belief impacts their life LESS than a doctor who thinks a black cat running in front of her means a day of bad luck and then proceeds to cancel all their appointments out of fear of making a mistake.

To the broader point about how all humans are irrational meat popsicles and we all have something weird, yeah you're not wrong. Everyone has some kind of stupid shit they believe in. But let's not get it twisted here. It's provable that certain groups have a higher degree of believing stupid bullshit than others. It's not similar at all. To your example about the bartender and the doctor, that's not a very realistic example of something that would actually commonly happen IRL.

Believing in a flat earth, other than maybe how it could direct your voting, really has zero negative effect on others around you, so as bizarre as it is, it's pretty harmless. Belief that sugar is okay to consume in great quantity each day and therefore liquid sugar drinks should be sold everywhere is, to me, a FAR more dangerous "belief" as it is killing thousands every day.

These two examples aren't really comparable. You're comparing one hypothetical flat earther to an economic policy. I don't think sugary drinks are on sale because we as a society believe that it's good for you. Some governments have enacted taxes on sugary drinks for that reason. Sugary drinks are sold everywhere because they're profitable, not because they're healthy.
 

jason10mm

Gold Member
To the broader point about how all humans are irrational meat popsicles and we all have something weird, yeah you're not wrong. Everyone has some kind of stupid shit they believe in. But let's not get it twisted here. It's provable that certain groups have a higher degree of believing stupid bullshit than others. It's not similar at all. To your example about the bartender and the doctor, that's not a very realistic example of something that would actually commonly happen IRL.



These two examples aren't really comparable. You're comparing one hypothetical flat earther to an economic policy. I don't think sugary drinks are on sale because we as a society believe that it's good for you. Some governments have enacted taxes on sugary drinks for that reason. Sugary drinks are sold everywhere because they're profitable, not because they're healthy.
I think if you went 5000 years into the future then looking back at "hey, some folks thought the earth was flat" and "hey, some societies allowed a toxic poison to be sold to children and they all got sick and died from diabetes" will be not that indistinguishable laughable examples of a primitive culture. Kind of like how we view the medicinal practice of leeching or belief in witchcraft. Irrational beliefs are commonplace and only gain weight based on how the current society views them. Flat earth seems preposterous to us now when its so easily disproven, but equally the effects of sugar are as obvious and indisputable with FAR greater harm, yet society tolerates it much more today (when, presumably, a flat earth belief in 1200's central asia was unlikely to be seen as lunacy but hoarding sugar and consuming large quantities of it daily would be).

If anything, the increasing complexity of technology and the lack of understanding of how it works makes more and more stuff effectively "magic" (and AI is gonna REALLY blow this up!!) which probably plays into fantastical things like flat earth because the comprehension of why the Earth simply CAN NOT be flat gets lost in the buzz of how a cell phone works or a website operates or what a MRI even does to the point where folks just kinda devolve back to only really understanding what they can tangibly touch because they don't NEED to exercise any deeper understanding and all the "explanations" given to them previously have been abandoned.
 

Arsic

Loves his juicy stink trail scent
Let’s be honest this is clearly just an elaborate gay sex orgy for people with Down syndrome.
 

The Stig

Banned
This shit hurts my soul. I don't even believe in a soul. The fact that people are stupid enough to spout this shit hurts so much.

To believe this horse shit you have to think man didn't land on the moon.

When Apollo 11 landed on the moon nobody disputed it. Including THE FUCKING SOVIET UNION. If ANYBODY was going to dispute it, it would be them. They observed it with their own equipment. It was called "the space race" for a fucking reason.

They lost.
 
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Go_Ly_Dow

Member
Our handyman is a flat earther.

He's in his 60s, retired and is a multi-millionaire. He's actually quite switched on and is a very good guy. Usually fixes our shit for free and refuses to accept payment.

One day he said to me "you know the earth is flat right?" and I thought he was taking the piss and joking. But he wasn't.

That was when I realised flat earthers weren't just a meme but actually real.
 
Our handyman is a flat earther.

He's in his 60s, retired and is a multi-millionaire. He's actually quite switched on and is a very good guy. Usually fixes our shit for free and refuses to accept payment.

One day he said to me "you know the earth is flat right?" and I thought he was taking the piss and joking. But he wasn't.

That was when I realised flat earthers weren't just a meme but actually real.
‘I’ve used the bubble levels enough to know that the Earth is flat!!’ 🤪

I knew one waaay back and he had a doctorate in engineering…sometimes it’s just plain weird who believes it…the moon was fake all that, and I had the same reaction as you first time I heard it; I’m like ‘you’re shitting me right?’ everyone else who knew him within earshot in unison ‘Nope!’ and of course I was the one to set off the whole lecture…and we were all on a small boat to top it all off so no one could leave his rant. 🤣
 
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Kamina

Golden Boy
What i see happening:
They will notice the sun set, but make up another weird conspiracy theory so they don't have to accept reality.
In the unlikely event that they do come to their senses, the other flat-earthers around the globe will just claim that they must have been brainwashed by the government or something.
 
I think some are so delusional that even if they saw earth from space, they would say it was some kind of fake imagery.
Strap to the actual rocket. Send it up. Proof is in the pudding and I can see it no clearer than tasting the actual atmosphere for Brunch.
 

West Texas CEO

GAF's Nicest Lunch Thief and Nosiest Dildo Archeologist
Um excuse me my fellow animal avatars, we all agreed we wouldn't let the normies know about the Antarctica Orgy Bonanza every January.
You animal avatars are still the worst

I know flat Earthers are confused, but never get that confused as well.
 
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nkarafo

Member
They don't really believe any of this.

They are just like astrologers. They know they are full of shit scammers who get in the way of human evolution but they found a way to earn money from it so they will push it to the limit.
 

Hrk69

Member
They don't really believe any of this.

They are just like astrologers. They know they are full of shit scammers who get in the way of human evolution but they found a way to earn money from it so they will push it to the limit.
They’re the intellectual equivalent of hitting “reply all” on an email chain

It's not that they’re too stupid to understand basic science; it's that they choose to be this clueless
 
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StreetsofBeige

Gold Member
Just curious, what do flat earthers believe if you dig a giant tunnel straight down?

Earth is round, so your hole would go through the core and you'll end up on the other side.

Would a flat earther believe you run out of dirt and lava? And after bypassing the lava core, you immediately just float into space?
 

StreetsofBeige

Gold Member
They’re the intellectual equivalent of hitting “reply all” on an email chain

It's not that they’re too stupid to understand basic science; it's that they choose to be this clueless
LOL.

Nothing like that annual email everyone gets. Company holds a raffle to win stuff at summer BBQ day and Bob will reply all saying he wants to buy 3 tickets.

Thanks for that glorious email Bob. Everyone in the office and warehouse was waiting for your answer.

And thanks for that 50/50 chance you message everyone again saying sorry for replying all.
 
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FunkMiller

Member
They don't really believe any of this.

They are just like astrologers. They know they are full of shit scammers who get in the way of human evolution but they found a way to earn money from it so they will push it to the limit.

All true, but even worse than that, they're sad little human beings who are so desperate for other people to pay attention to them, they'll spout whatever bullshit they think gets them the most interest. It's the troll mentality that affects so much of society these days. The fact it's been monetised is the big problem.
 

GloveSlap

Member
I used to watch a lot of flat Earth debates and debunking. Some are just way too far down the conspiracy rabbit hole, but others really are just that dumb. Like they struggle with the concept of up/down and the difference between speed and acceleration.
 
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