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I'm one of the few who loves the upgrade system then.
For duplicate cars just do a few time attack/rivals events, you'll upgrade the car level in no time.
Lol, no. It’s utter garbage and needs to go.
I'm one of the few who loves the upgrade system then.
For duplicate cars just do a few time attack/rivals events, you'll upgrade the car level in no time.
what ?
Lol, no. It’s utter garbage and needs to go.
It's only allowing me to play the first series "the builders cup" . The rest of Career is blocked and says I have to wait 4 more days (shows a countdown)
You're telling me other people don't have this and can play more?
Phil didn't give them shit, that's the point. Xbox has been very open about the completely hands-off approach for their studios.
But clearly from recent events at least some of them could benefit from some kind of oversight to stop the shitshow releases with half baked games when they are some of the biggest powerhouses in the industry.
F.ex., why the fuck have they let 343 roam free for a decade to destroy Halo, it doesn't make any fucking sense.
No, this is their single player content planned for the next couple of weeks for everyone. One cup per week. That’s it.
I disagree wholeheartedly.
It makes you focus on the car, spend valuable time with it and learn the intricacies of the handling model for each motor and then how it changes with each upgrade. It also stops you just whacking a huge stage 3 turbo on a car and not be able to drive it any more. More focus on balance.
But once you upgrade and bond with that car the champion is over and you're forced into a new very small selection of cars. The event restrictions aren't broad enough. I'm doing a German saloon event ATM and you only have the choice of 3 carsI disagree wholeheartedly.
It makes you focus on the car, spend valuable time with it and learn the intricacies of the handling model for each motor and then how it changes with each upgrade. It also stops you just whacking a huge stage 3 turbo on a car and not be able to drive it any more. More focus on balance.
But once you upgrade and bond with that car the champion is over and you're forced into a new very small selection of cars. The event restrictions aren't broad enough. I'm doing a German saloon event ATM and you only have the choice of 3 cars
Exactly! What kind of BS is this?
Phil needs to go. Destroying Halo is the biggest tragedy to happen under this moron. Forza being so lacking is on him too. I can't believe that between Starfield and Forza, the Xbox isn't "back" in 2023. This was supposed to finally be the year the ship would be righted but it's not. Forza should look like that original trailer but it feels like we were lied to. Next gen only racing game that kinda sorta looks a bit better than gt7 at times. Can't believe between Halo Infinite, Redfall, Starfield and now Forza people don't have their pitchforks our for Xbox leadership.
Surely this can't be what they wanted?
Oh we were lied to, there's no feel about it. It's straight up false advertising. But Turn 10 have always done this, they just aren't an honest company.
Not really no.Do we have to turn into sad football fans who stand outside the football ground with banners wanting the manager gone. Don't get me wrong I like football but do we really have to be that invested.Phil needs to go. Destroying Halo is the biggest tragedy to happen under this moron. Forza being so lacking is on him too. I can't believe that between Starfield and Forza, the Xbox isn't "back" in 2023. This was supposed to finally be the year the ship would be righted but it's not. Forza should look like that original trailer but it feels like we were lied to. Next gen only racing game that kinda sorta looks a bit better than gt7 at times. Can't believe between Halo Infinite, Redfall, Starfield and now Forza people don't have their pitchforks our for Xbox leadership.
Not really no.Do we have to turn into sad football fans who stand outside the football ground with banners wanting the manager gone. Don't get me wrong I like football but do we really have to be that invested.
I get where you're coming from as I don't like games where everything is gifted to you easily. But just let me buy parts for another of the same car once I have unlocked them.I'm one of the few who loves the upgrade system then.
For duplicate cars just do a few time attack/rivals events, you'll upgrade the car level in no time.
Also going back to the "polygonal seams" issue, Suzuka East is seriously bad for it. Along the start finish straight and round the first corner there are multiple of them flashing up and then one huge one just before the first sector marker, extremely off-putting.
I'm enjoying it. Far from perfect but it all sounds a bit to dramatic to me.Yeah we do apparently. You think I want to? It's taken how many years for some fanboy Xbox people to even begin to question Phils handling of Xbox
What?Loading, the game.
I think is a tight battle between this one and Starfield.
What?
Oh we were lied to, there's no feel about it. It's straight up false advertising. But Turn 10 have always done this, they just aren't an honest company.
Microsoft says they support actions to tackle climate change etc. and are a green company, yet they produce products like this which literally encourage you to leave your console on, consuming electricity for no reason whatsoever other than to complete pointless busywork so you can upgrade your car and play the way you actually want to. Dumb as rocks. But it will go down in their metrics as 'engagement' and they will brag about it in a press release. GaaS really is cancerous.
Electricity isn't free either so basically it's costing real money (not a lot but it all adds up) to level up each car.
Right, but it doesn't even look like that on PC. I'd say the PC version is pretty much the Series X version as far as assets go with the ability to bump RT up a little bit and a few other tweaks. But as far as textures and assets go, probably the same.^^^ THAT is the game we were supposed to be getting. Remember, it was shown at the Xbox Conference. That means this was supposed to be Series X gameplay and that the PC would be even better. Of course a week later they had to admit it was in fact PC footage. So the lies started flowing early on with Turn 10.
It's honestly almost EVERY AAA/AA developer in the in industry that's deceitful in some way. I think it all starts from the top with MS and Sony tacitly encouraging developers to be misleading. Most common is showing PC footage passed off as console on the storefronts. MS and Sony's "hands off policy" is very convenient for all parties involved.
I guess some companies just have the gall to lie boldfaced to us. The CD Project Reds, sadly now the Naughty Dogs (LoU1 Remake), Turn 10 etc
As long as they're all in on it together (and have shill Youtubers in their pocket) then they'll keep getting away with it. This is why I have no love for Digital Foundry who should really be calling them out on their false advertising.
You can race the car in anyway you want and it levels up. Free play, rivals, online, etc. so the career events are not the only way.Yup this part makes no sense what so ever. I start to level up a car but finish the series at around level 30 ish. the only way i can take it further is by re-runing the series as there are no other events for that car. Its like they chopped out 70% of the builders cup.
Unless im missing something of course. Are there more events other than those that are visible in the menu's that maybe become available later on?
Yup, FM4 was peak turn10. Ever since then it's been two steps forward and three back.I'm playing FM4 on my old, scratched and dusty 360. Campaign in that game is so, so, so much better. World tour is so well made. The way the world map moves from place to place and zooms to the track. The music. The fact that you can select from 1 out of 3 different 'themes' for each event. I'm in Expert Division but I can still use the same BMW M3 I almost started with because one of the events is BodyStyle Sedan. The other 2 are North America Tour S class and Mustang vs. Camaro Challenge.
There are 290 different 'themes'. A theme can be for example 'Audi TT Club'. Or ' Euro Sedans'. Or 'Hybrid Drivetrains'. Etc. Each theme has 3, 4 or 5 races, 1 if it's a showcase (which is rare) or more if it's a professional league.
It's packed with content. Absolutely packed.
But i want to play the career and online so my point stands the way things are structured in this game the levelling system is fucking stupid and actively works against the player. Playing the career and leveled up a car to 25? Tough shit if you want to take it any further bar doing the same event or timetrials. There should be multiple events in the builder cup for every class of car. Like I said its fucking stupid and can't be defended.You can race the car in anyway you want and it levels up. Free play, rivals, online, etc. so the career events are not the only way.
This wasn't in development for 6 years. Try 3 tops.Series x graphics unstable
The graphics in my series x are the worst ,can not play due to flashing lights and graphics also on cars also in the circuit. I try to play the game in visual and performance RT but i can not due to unstable and bad quality textures…im so disappointed from the maker’s because the give focus in...forums.forza.net
Seems like this was rushed for launch, even with 6 years of development.
This game was first revealed with a trailer 3 years ago, what do you think they were doing up to that point?This wasn't in development for 6 years. Try 3 tops.
I will add this statement fromThis wasn't in development for 6 years. Try 3 tops.
Either they're incompetent or there is something really bad going on with the management.I will add this statement from
- Dan Greenawalt, General Manager, Forza Motorsport at Turn 10 Studios
Let’s talk a little bit more about what Forza Motorsport is at its core. We’ve used the period since our last launch to innovate, redevelop, and refocus on the very core of the game. The entire experience of racing at the limit, improving your skill, building up your car, and competing on the track have been completely rethought. Our goal was to create a live, connected, immersive, accessible, and ever-changing competitive racing platform that will evolve and grow with our community. We’ve created a more competitive, accurate, and rewarding racing experience thanks to huge, foundational improvements in our physics and AI – more than all previous Motorsports combined. If you know Forza, you will feel the difference immediately.
So yeah they have been working on this game in some capacity since their last launch in 2017
https://news.xbox.com/en-us/2023/09/28/forza-motorsport-horizon-launch/
You are missing something, when you finish first cup under modern tab you unlock cup under enthusiast tab. If you just finished featured, that one doesn't unlock anything as it is in let's say 'seasonals' they will put online periodically. Of course, you have first to finish introduction cup to be able to progress further, after that one is one with hot hatches.It's only allowing me to play the first series "the builders cup" . The rest of Career is blocked and says I have to wait 4 more days (shows a countdown)
You're telling me other people don't have this and can play more?
I have absolutely no idea but it cant have been this gameThis game was first revealed with a trailer 3 years ago, what do you think they were doing up to that point?
Someone can correct me if I am wrong but sadly Motorsport is all Turn 10 does and this is what we got unless most of the team went on vacation for 3 yearsI have absolutely no idea but it cant have been this game
This wasn't in development for 6 years. Try 3 tops.
Oh im not arguing with you fella. I just look at what they have released and this can't have taken 6 years. Rebooted maybe?Someone can correct me if I am wrong but sadly Motorsport is all Turn 10 does and this is what we got unless most of the team went on vacation for 3 years
Go you, but Covid clearly had an effect on the whole industry. I don't know what you do but I'd think anything that creative that's requires a team benefits from everybody being in the same room.Putting this on Covid is very weak, its not like working from home makes you do your work poorly. Since 2019 I have been working from home and many choose as well. I would say that within my only circle, our work improved if anything.
Putting this on Covid is very weak, its not like working from home makes you do your work poorly. Since 2019 I have been working from home and many choose as well. I would say that within my only circle, our work improved if anything.