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Forza Motorsport will support Ray Tracing Global Illumination, but only on PC
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ToTTenTranz
Banned
Shit, you're right.
We need to take out $35 for a 1TB SSD, so I guess we're left with $140 for the GPU.
Worry not, because for only $145 we can get a marvelous GTX1630 4GB from Nvidia that will surely run raytracing so much better than the Series X or the PS5.
This thing just blasts through 4K like a snail:
And if you need even more performance, just enable DLSS2 and DLSS3 frame generation on that GTX. Super easy.
rodrigolfp
Haptic Gamepads 4 Life
Because PC gaming is not only power. If it was, what would be the point in having a more expensive machine that can do exactly the same as a cheaper one???
Kerotan
Member
Yes but bang for your buck they don't disappoint.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
They announced the game with RT reflections in-game, that hasn't changed.
rodrigolfp
Haptic Gamepads 4 Life
...and RTGI on track.
Senua
Gold Member
i think they only said RTGI for replays and car select on console
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
No, why do people keep saying something that was never announced lol. RTGI was only announced for replays and vista. Only PC will have RTGI during races.
From last year:
Turn 10 recently confirmed is the result of ray-traced global illumination (and evidently better-quality RT reflections) in replays, the garage and photo mode.
soulbait
Member
For those who do not want to spend the money on, hassel with, or just simply do not enjoy gaming on a PC. I know choices are hard to understand for someone of.
I have enough wealth where I could afford a very powerful gaming PC. However, I do not enjoy playing on a PC, because I work on one all day. I also prefer the ease of console gaming. So XSX is for me.
rodrigolfp
Haptic Gamepads 4 Life
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MarkMe2525
Gold Member
To play the games. Are you conflating the ability to run Ray Trace global illumination with the ability to play the software?
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Even in your video the dude is talking about reflections only.
And they've clarified the RTGI parts for more than a year now.
If you still thought something inaccurately, that's entirely up to you.
HeisenbergFX4
Member
Several people here keep saying we don't need them and that no dev is taking full advantage of the current hardware which honestly I think its a pretty ignorant thing to say
rodrigolfp
Haptic Gamepads 4 Life
? It's time stamped the dude is talking how RTGI bounces between surfaces affecting color.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
but that's clearly the vista mode, not an actual race ..
this was at the same time frame of that press tour
rodrigolfp
Haptic Gamepads 4 Life
Who is talking about actual race? Again, "on track".
Gamer_By_Proxy
Member
an overpriced Series S for suckers. I got the $150 Series S and still feel ripped off so far.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
They've already said replays will have it earlier. Unless that has changed, you will still get it "on track".
rodrigolfp
Haptic Gamepads 4 Life
That's what I said they "said".
Jibran#one
Member
Even If Forza Motorsport is a 10/10 game people will still bitch about how series X dont have rtgi and their 4090 can easily do it at 8k.
That's what this forum is hate on Xbox and it's games without any reason.
I love Forza bought my series X only for Forza will enjoy it while people here will bitch here endlessly that it doesn't have rtgi
That's what this forum is hate on Xbox and it's games without any reason.
I love Forza bought my series X only for Forza will enjoy it while people here will bitch here endlessly that it doesn't have rtgi
DeaDPo0L84
Member
For people who don't want to spend $2,500 on a competent rig to play next-gen games with all the bells and whistles. For the record I spent way more than that and don't regret it one bit, but different strokes different folks.
sendit
Member
sachos
Member
RTGI is a must to make games look proper Next Gen imo, or at least a good combination of RT Shadows and RT AO. People often wonder "why do you even need Pro consoles this gen?" This is why, Pro consoles with much improved RT tech and even possible hardware accelerated AI upsclaing would be huge imo.
The Tourmaline Gorilla
Banned
I love how people are laughing at Xbox, as if the PS5 could do it. If the series X can't do it, the PS5 can't do it.
I saw the trailer for Fable, I saw Avowed, I saw God of War Ragnarok, I saw Spiderman 2, I saw the downgrade in the Hellblade 2 tease, and even games like Horizon FW, as great as it looks, is perhaps the peak we'll get this gen. It's becoming plainly obvious to me that these consoles just aren't powerful enough to give us all of the fidelity that we want and expected.
They could pull it off, but we'll have to settle for something like 1080p or 1440p @ 30 fps. Honestly, I'd love to see what sort of graphical accomplishments we could see on the Series X at 1080p 30fps - probably what we might see on the big screen in a Hollywood release.
I saw the trailer for Fable, I saw Avowed, I saw God of War Ragnarok, I saw Spiderman 2, I saw the downgrade in the Hellblade 2 tease, and even games like Horizon FW, as great as it looks, is perhaps the peak we'll get this gen. It's becoming plainly obvious to me that these consoles just aren't powerful enough to give us all of the fidelity that we want and expected.
They could pull it off, but we'll have to settle for something like 1080p or 1440p @ 30 fps. Honestly, I'd love to see what sort of graphical accomplishments we could see on the Series X at 1080p 30fps - probably what we might see on the big screen in a Hollywood release.
it was not the fanboys, it was Phil himself. He has been talking shit since 2020 and egging fanboys on.
Xbox Exec Phil Spencer Speaks About "Hardware Advantages" Over PS5
Phil Spencer says he "felt good" after watching Sony's recent showcase because he knows what Microsoft has cooking.
www.gamespot.com
It been almost 3 years and quiet frankly here is the summary
PS5 almost has stable fps
both reconstruct sub 4k to reach 4k
Xbox has RAW computational power to render slightly higher rez.
EAT MONSTERS FOR BREAKFAST !!!
SportsFan581
Member
some members here said that xbox consoles will have the RTGI at native 4k and 60fps during a race.
Literally no one ever said that it was RTGI on Xbox. The game will feature RT at 4k 60 during races. Not full RTGI however. I don't remember the exact verbiage there, I think it is primarily reflections.
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Tripolygon
Banned
Is it just me or there is no ray tracing in track?
Xcell Miguel
Gold Member
Let's wait a few months before jumping to conclusions, it's not a final build and we don't know how old the build is.
RT could have been disabled in this build because of bugs or unstable performance.
alucard0712_rus
Banned
Reflections was not a problem in Forza games. IMO it's better do RT shadows/AO. It will be more noticed, especially in cockpit.
He even timestamped it and the guy mentions raytracing global illumination. He doesn't mention platform but where are you getting the idea that the dude is talking about reflections only?
Edit: seems i replied to an old post.
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RoboFu
One of the green rats
It’s tricky for sure but the rtgi statement is separate from the reflections statement. It’s just edited badly.
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It's intentional. He even says "every time you see it" which is bullocks.
Thirty7ven
Banned
So no RT reflections at 60 fps?
Senua
Gold Member
The last Forza Motorsport game that wasn't 60 was the first one so there wont be a 30 mode but they promised RT reflections at 60fps 4k, the gameplay footage they showcased didn't have it so they're either being sneaky or it's just not turned on in that build. only time shall tell!!!!!!!!111
joeygreco1985
Member
RTGI in F1 23 is fantastic, one of the few reasons I turn on RT at all
HeisenbergFX4
Member
Insane Metal
Member
This is the way to go. PCs are more powerful, so make use of that power. I don't see why any developer should keep their games running at the same settings as the console versions of the game.
transformer
Member
They have clearly stated that there will be Ray tracing on track, during racing, at 60fps on Xbox consoles. They made it a point to further clarify and state that. Directly from T10. Now we all know the Ray tracing limitations on the consoles. Not all lighting will be Ray traced. They indicated reflections on smooth surfaces. How much, and what fidelity, will come down to optimization.
Icymanipulator
Member
Guys, it’s a “creative choice” OK?
Bry0
Member
They should keep the settings the same because the 15 year olds on gaf can’t afford it with their summer mowing jobs.
Senua
Gold Member
DLSS2 and TAA are must haves. TAA looked better than DLSS2 in FH5They unveiled that the pc version will have extra features and they are also focusing more on it. Ryan also confirmed this on IGN, they saw more footage behind closed doors.
