This is what replays look like now in GT7.
Basically, the pre-rendered intros and replays from last gen GT games. Forza is still using that cartoony lighting that might actually be masking all the effort they have put into other rendering features.
Agreed though I am going to be happy playing whats shown here
The interior lighting and shadows in the above Forza PC video shared, look pretty much the same as GT7's lighting and interior shadows windscreen reflections, etc, (soft shadows, etc). I do prefer the lighting tones of GT7 at the moment, only because we see the yellow/orange tones only for interior shots of Forza so far in that video.Nah, just look at any GT intro from last gen. They look vastly better than what those GTs were able to do during gameplay.
Until i get interiors like this from Forza and GT, im not going to worry about diminishing returns.
Agreed.
In small gif/video's yeah definitely, but when we start comparing it directly than we will see huge differences with last gen and other games. The level of detail on the track and the way the trees look with almost no pop in is impressive and unseen. Also in the cockpit view the RT reflections on the Cadilac adds to the extra realism just like the RT reflection on the Corvette. And im not sure if the footage even features RTGI, the only RT there is are the reflections.
Outside the 4th gif which is from GTS, none of them look photorealistic. They look incredible but not photorealistic like the 4th gif, and we know why the 4th gif looks photorealistic. Because of the tod and the weather, which is overcasty grey weather with no shadows. They always look realistic in almost any game. Even Forza Motorsport 5 had realistic looking overcast lighting, thats the easiest way to achiev photorealistic lighting.
Basically, the pre-rendered intros and replays from last gen GT games. Forza is still using that cartoony lighting that might actually be masking all the effort they have put into other rendering features.
I think we are far from it. Outside of improved graphics:
For the same thing PS5 is for.
Nope, it was leaked and this is what i got from GTP. Would also love a 4K60HDR vesion but for now this is it.
I somewhat agree that I think forza needs to improve its shaders/materials. I feel they have decided to simply turn down the saturation to avoid that cartoony look but as your gifs show you can still have colours that pop and as long as your materials and shaders are good it wouldn't look cartoony.
Yeah, I meant I want replay graphics during gameplay. The intros look even better.
I am not seeing any reflections in that gif posted above. At least not like the reflections and incredible interior GI seen in the GT7 gif.
I'm convinced they borrowed a lot from Driveclub in that dynamic lighting/weather department. Not source code, mind you, but inspiration. Driveclub still has one of the best lighting/weather models that IMO still exceeds even these games. A non 4K/60+ version is a travesty. Or even that lighting/cloud/weather system applied to these sims.
Its not that they don't want to add it, its the manufacturer that doesn't allow there cars to get damaged. There was a article from FH4 where they specifically told that Ferrari didn't allow too much damage and body kits on there car. Thats why some body kits got even removed.
Look in the interior of the Cadilac on the left side the shiny carbon fiber with beautiful shaders reflects the interior in real time with even all the shadows.
That 1H Spa race that they added was like that, just amazing tod/weather showcase.
How as they allow it in some games like Project Cars, Assetto Corsa, iracing, etc??
I am not talking about the GT7 intro videos. What I am saying is the Forza gameplay video that was just posted, does not look much different than GT7 interior gameplay other than tones in lighting, but that is all time of day and region/track/weather/cloud cover based. If you turned the HUD off most would think they were the same games.
Yeah, I remember seeing GT articles back in the day where they said manufacturers shied against that as well with the licensing.
From what I see, they don't have full wreckable damage. Just more of the same unrealistic cosmetics.
To an extent. Screw graphic improvements, I would take GT6 graphics if crashes looked like this in game:
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Only thing that you can see is the RT reflections and the trackside detail with impressive lod management. I hope next months stream they show some more gameplay on different tracks and weather and upload it at 4K60HDR so we can see some decent footage.
No. They have flying parts and wheels/tyres and car performance and handling are heavily affected.
It's still very unrealistic. Crashing into a wall at 30-50MPH should have them totaled. A full bumper falls off and looks silly too. While it's a little better than the hanging bumpers in GT/Forza, it's still far from totaling licensed cars, which shows the manufacturers have a limit.
The footage at the conference was incredible looking (pc version), the monthly stream footage from Series X looked average.
I remember when kaz promised destruction like this in gt5. Turns it was just for one car lmao
Ok, how about this? This is during day time.
RTGI at 60fps on 500$ console, come on bro.lol Ray Tracing there on XSX but it's not RTGI. Its just reflections.
I mean im not against what you are saying but you are comparing professionaly edited non real time non gameplay gif with tons of motion blur to a low rez direct gameplay footage and act like its not looking good. That same track and tod in GT7 looks like this during gameplay, nothing like that gifOk, how about this? This is during day time.
Even if its not photorealistic, I just want next gen racing games with these graphics. They need to stop targeting native 4k 60 fps and just give me a 1080p 60 fps game that looks like that.
The footage at the conference was incredible looking (pc version), the monthly stream footage from Series X looked average.
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