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[BennyBlanco]

FromSoftware didn’t want Sony to publish Dark Souls as it was ‘disappointed’ by how Demon’s Souls was treated | VGC

It’s claimed FromSoftware teamed up with Bandai Namco because Sony didn’t publish Demon’s Souls in the West…

www.videogameschronicle.com

Speaking to the Sacred Symbols podcast, former SIE president Yoshida explained that Sony wanted to work on the sequel to Demon’s Souls with FromSoftware, but the developer turned it down and instead decided to work with Bandai Namco on what would become Dark Souls.

 

[Astray]

One of Shuhei's biggest fumbles imo.

 

[MMaRsu]

And then they did From software even dirtier by remaking it into a soulless game

 

[DeepEnigma]

And then Miyazaki worked with Sony on his favorite project to date.

 

[nowhat]

And then Miyazaki worked with Sony on his favorite project to date.

Huss, quiet you, you're ruining a perfectly good "Sony bad" narrative.

 

[DeepEnigma]

Huss, quiet you, you're ruining a perfectly good "Sony bad" narrative.

 

[Kotaro]

One of Shuhei's biggest fumbles imo.

no, there's a bigger fumble after that.

Sony/Shuhei and From Soft patched it up and they worked together again for Bloodborne. But also during Bloodborne development, From Soft put themselves up for sale. And Sony didn't make a move. In fact none of the big publishers made an offer to buy From Soft.

At the end Kadokawa bought From Soft for probably very cheap price

 

[BennyBlanco]

Huss, quiet you, you're ruining a perfectly good "Sony bad" narrative.

Uhh, I think most people reading this know what Bloodborne, but it’s also addressed in the article

 

[DeepEnigma]

no, there's a bigger fumble after that.

Sony/Shuhei and From Soft patched it up and they worked together again for Bloodborne. But also during Bloodborne development, From Soft put themselves up for sale. And Sony didn't make a move. In fact none of the big publishers made an offer to buy From Soft.

At the end Kadokawa bought From Soft for probably very cheap price

And now Sony will be pretty much publishing everything for them in the future according to reports.

 

[Alebrije]

Bloodborne basically is Demons Souls 2.

 

[James Sawyer Ford]

Do we need another ArtHands thread after he already made 5 yesterday? Non stop pro-PC anti-Sony agenda hit pieces…oh wait

 

[R6Rider]

Bloodborne basically is Demons Souls 2.

 

[ssringo]

Good decision that has ultimately led to their explosion in popularity.

It's always interesting looking back and seeing what decisions really changed the course of a person/entity.

 

[Kotaro]

And now Sony will be pretty much publishing everything for them in the future according to reports.

nope, nothing in their agreement states that Sony will publish From Soft games. From Soft will self-publish after Elden Ring,

And their games will not be exclusive to PlayStation platform

 

[Alebrije]

I mean on spirit....not gameplay

 

[MMaRsu]

Bloodborne basically is Demons Souls 2.

 

[Closer]

Do we need another ArtHands thread after he already made 5 yesterday? Non stop pro-PC anti-Sony agenda hit pieces…oh wait

Imagine being this triggered.

 

[mckmas8808]

And then Miyazaki worked with Sony on his favorite project to date.

Funny how that happens. LOL!

 

[BennyBlanco]

Do we need another ArtHands thread after he already made 5 yesterday? Non stop pro-PC anti-Sony agenda hit pieces…oh wait

Do we need you playing defense in every thread that doesn’t paint Sony as some infallible corporation that never makes mistakes?

Shu is on a media tour and spilling the beans. Nobody ever really spelled out like this what exactly happened after Demon’s Souls and there was a bunch of speculation.

 

[Shubh_C63]

iirc didn't Sony played the first Dark Souls or Demon Souls and said to FROM that it is one of the worst jank game they had ever played, before release obviously.

 

[rubik's dude]

Bloodborne basically is Demons Souls 2.

It's actually kinda cool how true this is; Dark Souls and Bloodborne both inherit from Demon's Souls, but represent two different branching paths of gameplay philosophy established by the parent game.

 

[James Sawyer Ford]

Shu is on a media tour and spilling the beans. Nobody ever really spelled out like this what exactly happened after Demon’s Souls and there was a bunch of speculation

Yeah and that media tour turns into thread spinning hour with some of these topic titles that lack context

The fact that they went onto make bloodborne makes this whole thing a nothingburger lol

 

[mckmas8808]

iirc didn't Sony played the first Dark Souls or Demon Souls and said to FROM that it is one of the worst jank game they had ever played, before release obviously.

But.....we also know they clearly liked it so.....

 

[Gaiff]

Bloodborne basically is Demons Souls 2.

Weird when Dark Souls is much more similar.

 

[DeepEnigma]

Funny how that happens. LOL!

 

[BlackTron]

Do we need another ArtHands thread after he already made 5 yesterday? Non stop pro-PC anti-Sony agenda hit pieces…oh wait

So don't talk about ex PS exec's comments because they aren't flattering to Sony?

Why aren't you complaining when an ex Microsoft employee offers his two cents? It's not like anti Xbox isn't non stop here.

So sensitive.

 

[Raven117]

Even FromSoftware didn’t know they had a hit at the time. (Shu didn’t see the brilliance of it at the time, but let’s be honest… just picking up that game for a few minutes knowing nothing about it would not make a great impression. It takes a little bit for everything to click. So yeah. Everyone is excused on this one)

This is some fan-fiction as I’ve ever heard some.

 

[DeepEnigma]

nope, nothing in their agreement states that Sony will publish From Soft games. From Soft will self-publish after Elden Ring,

And their games will not be exclusive to PlayStation platform

Never said anything about exlusivity.

Sony to Publish Games from FromSoftware and Other Kadokawa Studios

Kadokawa Group has outlined its future licensing, development, and publishing strategy now that Sony has become its majority shareholder. What This Means

fextralife.com

 

[mckmas8808]

So don't talk about ex PS exec's comments because they aren't flattering to Sony?

Why aren't you complaining when an ex Microsoft employee offers his two cents? It's not like anti Xbox isn't non stop here.

So sensitive.

Who says these latest threads aren't flattering to Sony? Why is everything so binary on GAF?

 

[James Sawyer Ford]

nope, nothing in their agreement states that Sony will publish From Soft games. From Soft will self-publish after Elden Ring,

And their games will not be exclusive to PlayStation platform

Their agreement does include Sony publishing more future games

 

[violence]

iirc didn't Sony played the first Dark Souls or Demon Souls and said to FROM that it is one of the worst jank game they had ever played, before release obviously.

The video I saw, after a few hours of play he called it an “unbelievably terrible game”. These games can leave a really bad first impression. I know it did with me.

 

[Three]

iirc didn't Sony played the first Dark Souls or Demon Souls and said to FROM that it is one of the worst jank game they had ever played, before release obviously.

Sony published Demon's souls so obviously not but that may have been the case when it comes to localisation after that.

 

[TintoConCasera]

If they show you something and just tell you "this is Kings Field but in third person" you'll probably wouldn't have been impressed either.

 

[Kotaro]

Never said anything about exlusivity.

Sony to Publish Games from FromSoftware and Other Kadokawa Studios

Kadokawa Group has outlined its future licensing, development, and publishing strategy now that Sony has become its majority shareholder. What This Means

fextralife.com

OK fair enough, maybe Sony will publish From Soft games

 

[BlackTron]

Who says these latest threads aren't flattering to Sony? Why is everything so binary on GAF?

Yoshida has been saying a lot that almost comes off as getting failures off his chest or venting.

Interpret them all you want. I'm neither pro nor anti Sony. I just read what's in front of me.

 

[Hypereides]

One of Shuhei's biggest fumbles imo.

Another one was not grabbing the exclusive rights to what essentially became Rocket league. Psyonix launched the predecessor on the PS3 (Supersonic acrobatic Rocket-powered battle cars) which served as the prototype for it.

 

[Ebrietas]

Scandalous! I bet From will never work with Sony again after this!

 

[mckmas8808]

Yoshida has been saying a lot that almost comes off as getting failures off his chest or venting.

Interpret them all you want. I'm neither pro nor anti Sony. I just read what's in front of me.

Yoshida is giving a fuller understanding on many different situations while he was at Sony. Most people are asking him about the failures for obvious reasons. But he's also saying positive things too. I'm sure you've seen those threads also on GAF the last few days right?

 

[DaciaJC]

And thank God for that, going multiplatform turned out to be an incredibly beneficial move for both From and the gaming community at large.

 

[TerribleAtThisGame]

Hindsight is 20/20. That being said, I would've reacted the same as From.

 

[MiguelItUp]

Ridiculous. But, oh well, I'm happy with how everything panned out regardless.

Except, you know, would be cool to see a Bloodborne remaster or something.

 

[Sooner]

And thank God for that, going multiplatform turned out to be an incredibly beneficial move for both From and the gaming community at large.

Yup. And when all those players got hooked, they got 360 players to buy a PS3 for Demon's Souls, a PS4 for Bloodborne and a PS5 for Demon's Souls Remake. Sounds like more From PlayStation exclusives are otw too.

 

[mckmas8808]

Ridiculous. But, oh well, I'm happy with how everything panned out regardless.

Except, you know, would be cool to see a Bloodborne remaster or something.

Now that Sony will be publishing all of FROM's games going forward.............maybe they will.

 

[Perrott]

One of Shuhei's biggest fumbles imo.

That, killing AAA (Eight Days, Getaway) over at London, passing on acquiring and enhancing reliable partners such as Ready at Dawn, Quantic Dream, Supermassive, Remedy...

... and closing Evolution.

 

[BlackTron]

Yoshida is giving a fuller understanding on many different situations while he was at Sony. Most people are asking him about the failures for obvious reasons. But he's also saying positive things too. I'm sure you've seen those threads also on GAF the last few days right?

Did I ever at any point imply that positive things to discuss about Sony did not exist?

 

[Tiago Rodrigues]

no, there's a bigger fumble after that.

Sony/Shuhei and From Soft patched it up and they worked together again for Bloodborne. But also during Bloodborne development, From Soft put themselves up for sale. And Sony didn't make a move. In fact none of the big publishers made an offer to buy From Soft.

At the end Kadokawa bought From Soft for probably very cheap price

I mean...right now Sony has never been this close to not only FromSoftware but the parent company as well so i wouldn't say they made a huge mistake.

 

[Alebrije]

Weird when Dark Souls is much more similar.

In spirit

Dark Souls 2. Has a Bloodborne NPC reference like if the two worlds were connected somehow, its Marvellous Chester and basically he says he is an stranger in an strange world like you.

 

[skit_data]

Seems fair, they really dropped the ball. Maybe one positive net result of them fumbling it so bad would be Bloodborne? I assume Miyazaki got more or less carte blanche/greater creative freedom due to Sony trying to get back on thei good side.

 

[skit_data]

In spirit

Dark Souls 2. Has a Bloodborne NPC reference like if the two worlds were connected somehow, its Marvellous Chester and basically he says he is an stranger in an strange world like you.

He's from DS1 though?

 

[FeralEcho]

YikAnd then Miyazaki worked with Sony on his favorite project to date.

I bet he's just as dissapointed now with the way Sony is treating Bloodborne... Seems like a repeat of the Demon's Souls treatment...