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As reported earlier, NVIDIA confirmed a manufacturing anomaly that resulted in incorrect spec configurations of certain RTX 5090 and RTX 5070 Ti cards leaving the factory. Our belief is that NVIDIA knew about the issue because they were ready to provide the exact percentage of the affected cards just hours after the news broke.

Despite this, NVIDIA still went ahead with the planned sales embargo for the RTX 5070 Ti, and these cards launched just three days ago. Some people were able to buy them, little did they know, their cards are not fully functional GPUs.

One gamer, “The Zeitgeist,” bought the RTX 5070 Ti this week, and after checking the card specs, it became clear that the card doesn’t have the 96 ROPs as promised by NVIDIA. This information isn’t on the GeForce website; however, it is in the official whitepaper.

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This is another case after the first report from the HKEPC community yesterday, but unlike in that case, here we have some benchmarks:

Time Spy Graphics Score: 24,755 (my 5070Ti with 88 ROPs) vs. 27,727 (reference value Computerbase)
Steel Nomad Score: 6,223 (my 5070Ti with 88 ROPs) vs. 6,463 (reference value Computerbase)
Speed Way Score: 7,046 (my 5070Ti with 88 ROPs) vs. 7,665 (reference value Computerbase)

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[damidu]

if this isn't a class action lawsuit, don't know what is.
its scamming 101

 

[Bojji]

 

[StereoVsn]

It’s crazy how unbelievably terrible this launch has been. And Nvidia couldn’t care less because they make their main profit off AI and data centers while AMD isn’t a serious competitor.

 

[Topher]

Finally.....a real "scam".

 

[MikeM]

What sucks is, if you RMA, how long until you get a replacement with these stock issues?

 

[StereoVsn]

What sucks is, if you RMA, how long until you get a replacement with these stock issues?

Probably months if 5090. Still a while but shorter of 5080 or 5070Ti.

 

[Lucifers Beard]

I found footage from the production line of the 5000 series cards.

 

[Horseganador]

So Nvidia knew perfectly well that buying one of these graphics cards was a kind of lottery where there were some that performed worse and it didn't matter, it was a scam.

 

[Topher]

I found footage from the production line of the 5000 series cards.

 

[Spyxos]

Nvidia assumes that most people don't care or don't even understand what's wrong with the cards. Probably only a very small percentage will exchange the cards at all.

 

[SweetTooth]

Holy!!! Imagine Sony, Nintendo or MS releasing a lottery of consoles with variable performance.

 

[Bojji]

Holy!!! Imagine Sony, Nintendo or MS releasing a lottery of consoles with variable performance.

GPUs always had variable performance because every unit will have different boost clock but this is something new lol.

 

[simpatico]

Salute. You were a good egg. I'll never forget my 450 GTS dedicated PhysX card.

 

[ReBurn]

I feel bad for the suckers on the online marketplaces who are about to be sold a broken open box card when the current owner discovers it's gimped.

 

[Senua]

970 pt2?

 

[GHG]

Finally.....a real "scam".

When scalping customers directly isn't enough.

 

[poodaddy]

Jesus we need competition so fuckin bad man.

AMD.....Intel.....Santa Claus, Jesus, Bill Clinton, Beyonce, someone please for the love of God just give Nvidia some competition.

 

[kruis]

if this isn't a class action lawsuit, don't know what is.
its scamming 101

What? People can simply RMA the card if they're among the 0.5% who got a faulty card.

 

[Durin]

Nvidia really making this overall card series launch a continual let-down. Losing Physx support is another reason I'll keep my 4000 series card.

The only good thing about Nvidia has been the updates to DLSS and reflex, and those work on older cards.

 

[Kilau]

You know how we accept “up to” 60fps, Nvidia just needs to edit to “up to” 96 ROPs.

 

[nkarafo]

if this isn't a class action lawsuit, don't know what is.
its scamming 101

Their punishment will most likely be another upwards spike in their stock value.

 

[DenchDeckard]

This is something. What a shitshow of a launch.

Hopefully this gets out there and in front of more eyes. What a joke.

 

[FeralEcho]

Seriously are there ANY good news about this launch at all?!

What complete amateur hour by Nvidia. Hope there's a lawsuit brewing out there to bite their greedy asses right where it hurts.

 

[poppabk]

if this isn't a class action lawsuit, don't know what is.
its scamming 101

Shame that they probably signed an arbitration agreement when downloading the drivers or installing the Nvidia app.
Edit:
"The TOU contains a binding arbitration clause, and class action and class arbitration waivers. Please read Section 18 as it requires the parties to arbitrate their disputes and limits the manner in which you can seek relief from NVIDIA."
"Class Action, Representative Action, & Jury Trial Waiver. All Disputes must be brought by a party in its individual capacity, and not as a plaintiff or class member in any purported class or representative proceeding. You and NVIDIA agree to waive the right to a jury trial, participate in class action lawsuits, class-wide arbitrations, any collective, consolidated, or other proceeding or request for relief where someone acts in a representative capacity."

 

[FeralEcho]

I found footage from the production line of the 5000 series cards.

Look at all that frame generation! That's some quality generating alright!

 

[LordCBH]

Excuse me? Missing? How are they “missing”? “Oh oops not all these parts were installed at the factory!”

 

[Ma-Yuan]

Excuse me? Missing? How are they “missing”? “Oh oops not all these parts were installed at the factory!”

The rop cluster is on the chip dor sure. it's most likely just broken. So they used bad chips. Thats why ps5 and xsx have deactivated cus. Most of the chips should be fully operational but still are getting artificially gimped so that they don't have to throw away the chips where some cus are really broken. Nvidia didn't get that message i assume

 

[Magic Carpet]

Nvidia 5000 series cards officially in the ignore bin.
If my RTX 4070 ever goes up in a puff of smoke, I might have to do all gaming on my Quest 3.

 

[namenotfound]

970 pt2?

I still have my 970. If I got one of these gimped cards, I'd be angry rather than being annoyed when the 970 3.5.GB news came out. 970 was ~$320 and easy to get

 

[Pedro Motta]

What a shit show this launch.

 

[kruis]

An unknown percentage of RTX5080s manufactured up till now are also affected.

https://videocardz.com/newz/first-geforce-rtx-5080-discovered-with-104-rops-8-missing-in-action

Yesterday, NVIDIA announced that two cards may be affected by a production “anomaly” which causes lower ROPs specs in the final configuration. NVIDIA claimed that this can result in up to 4% lower performance, but we have already seen cards reaching lower performance.

The important detail is that NVIDIA has announced two models: RTX 5090 and RTX 5070 Ti, said to be affected. Only 0.5% of cards, presumably out of those already made, were said to be affected.

However, based on the new information from Redditor “gingeraffe90”, the RTX 5080 may have a similar problem, at least that’s what the software GPU-Z shows—the same software that brought the problem to light in the first report by TechPowerUP. The card shows 104 ROPs instead of 112.

As we can see, the Redditor who posted the screenshot is using the latest version of GPU-Z. He also adds that the card in question is NVIDIA’s own Founders Edition model, not a board partner design.

Some users noticed that the first GPU-Z screenshot lacked Vulkan support, however Redditor posted an updated version with Vulkan support ticked. But to be sure, we also requested the GPU-Z validation which was submitted and verified.

Do note, it was performed after Reddit reinstalled drivers, just to be sure there’s no mistake on the software side. It proves that the card is indeed affected by missing ROPs.

 

[Black_Stride]

An unknown percentage of RTX5080s manufactured up till now are also affected.

https://videocardz.com/newz/first-geforce-rtx-5080-discovered-with-104-rops-8-missing-in-action

Yesterday, NVIDIA announced that two cards may be affected by a production “anomaly” which causes lower ROPs specs in the final configuration. NVIDIA claimed that this can result in up to 4% lower performance, but we have already seen cards reaching lower performance.

The important detail is that NVIDIA has announced two models: RTX 5090 and RTX 5070 Ti, said to be affected. Only 0.5% of cards, presumably out of those already made, were said to be affected.

However, based on the new information from Redditor “gingeraffe90”, the RTX 5080 may have a similar problem, at least that’s what the software GPU-Z shows—the same software that brought the problem to light in the first report by TechPowerUP. The card shows 104 ROPs instead of 112.

As we can see, the Redditor who posted the screenshot is using the latest version of GPU-Z. He also adds that the card in question is NVIDIA’s own Founders Edition model, not a board partner design.

Some users noticed that the first GPU-Z screenshot lacked Vulkan support, however Redditor posted an updated version with Vulkan support ticked. But to be sure, we also requested the GPU-Z validation which was submitted and verified.

Do note, it was performed after Reddit reinstalled drivers, just to be sure there’s no mistake on the software side. It proves that the card is indeed affected by missing ROPs.

Looks like it's GB20x chips that can be fucked.

Nvidia should have just used the lower ROP number as their base once they knew a good number of their chips weren't meeting spec.

Cuz right now it looks like malicious intent they knew the yields yet still decided to ship the products.

 

[SatansReverence]

Imagine paying 2 or more times retail for a scalped card only for it to be gimped and you have zero ability RMA it

 

[SmokedMeat]

Talk about a complete disregard for your customers. This is an $800 product Jensen has no problem fucking you on.

 

[Skifi28]

Nvidia can always solve the issue by disabling whatever software there is on the cards that reports back to GPUz. They give peasants the privilege of owning a top tier AI GPU and they still complain about minor stuff. Just be thankful they even allow you to have a chance to buy them from a scalper near you.

 

[Corporal.Hicks]

I am so glad I havent waited 7 months for the RTX 50 series and 9800X3D. Dying 9800X3D, insane prices due to low availability. missing ROPs, increased power consumption which doesnt bode well with 12VHPWR / 12V-2x6 power connector. My 7800X3D and 4080S are not much worse compared to the 9800X3D 5080 and I paid a fraction of the price.

 

[ResilientBanana]

if this isn't a class action lawsuit, don't know what is.
its scamming 101

These are all within the warranty period. If they make good on a replacement all is well. It's not the end of the world.

 

[nowhat]

Holy!!! Imagine Sony, Nintendo or MS releasing a lottery of consoles with variable performance.

Arguably MS did this with the 360. Some consoles performed. Others didn't.

 

[Xdrive05]

Considering this is most likely to be THE ONE product in the whole lineup - probably including what the 60 class will be too - that should be almost an okay value if purchased at MSRP (almost an OK value), this is crap.

 

[SportsFan581]

I read the headline and figured they had released a gimped sku on purpose, it's happened before.

Makes jumping out to grab one of these early a bit of a risk.

 

[Black_Stride]

Nvidia can always solve the issue by disabling whatever software there is on the cards that reports back to GPUz. They give peasants the privilege of owning a top tier AI GPU and they still complain about minor stuff. Just be thankful they even allow you to have a chance to buy them from a scalper near you.

Hahaha.

Release a BIOS update that solves the ROP issue.

By simply always reporting the correct number regardless of the physical chip.



Who wants to bet they actually have one so from now on all cards have the right number ROPs without Nvidia having solved their yield issues.