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Google: Stadia exclusives to have features “not possible” on home hardware From thousands of on-screen soldiers to Duplex-powered "believable human..
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If we wanted to get technical about it there isn't any hardware google can put in a datacenter that you can't put in your home. Not only that you'd have a lot less latency to deal with.
Not saying it is practical, just saying it is possible which directly contradicts what the Stadiots have been spouting in interviews lately.
What I don't understand is who they're trying to convince, investors? Gamers gonna sit back and say, "show us these magic games first.".
But who will make games around this hardware that not many people will have in their homes?
Google can give devs the freedom to make games well above 200GBs that use more than 128GB of RAM
Slings and Arrows
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The power of the duplex
adamosmaki
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I'll tell you a couple of features local hardware has stadia doesnt have . No lag ,support for mods and no need for subscription fees
Woo-Fu
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That assumes Stadia hits a critical mass where it is worthwhile to make games that will only work on that platform. I don't see that happening unless Google sticks with it for multiple generations.
They can buy/startup enough studios to be a Nintendo without any Nintendo IPs in the meantime. Just look at the last 2-3 generations. 2nd party has been drying up, you either make games that will run on at least the top two consoles or you go mobile. The only studios that will want to make games that can only run on Stadia will be 1st party.
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Shmunter
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They could do a Microsoft and buy the next Halo, aka big thing. Buy CD PROJECT.
DeltaPolarBear
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Except, you STILL can't afford it. You are assuming renting hardware is cheap when it isn't. The costs of running Stadia dramatically increases with the processing power offered being upscaled. What made you think it could be affordable?
My thread from before they even announced Stadia
https://www.neogaf.com/threads/how-...evices-for-you-to-be-happy-with-gaas.1472925/
PS5 & Xbox Scarlett also need to reach a large install base before it's worth it to make games that only work on next gen consoles so they are in the same boat for now & just will have to take a chance.
One thing that could happen is demos that pop up like ads before Youtube videos which would have a wider reach than PS5 & Xbox Scarlett from the start.
Fret Runner
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Uh-huh, you expect me to believe that Stadia exclusives will have features “not possible” on home hardware From thousands of on-screen soldiers to Duplex-powered "believable human interaction". All powered and localised within your server kitchen?
Google:
Everybody Else:
Google:
Everybody Else:
Torrent of Pork
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One of these days a hero will come foward with an idea that cannot be explained with a Simpson's gif.
Fret Runner
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And on that day, even death may die.
ExpandKong
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My uncle Jeremy Goog is pretty high up at Google and he said using the power of Stadia they made a game so powerful that the game started playing them and the US government had to be called in to napalm the facility.
It has been over an hour since I made this post and nobody has refuted it so guess what it’s officially true now RIP Uncle Jeremy.
It has been over an hour since I made this post and nobody has refuted it so guess what it’s officially true now RIP Uncle Jeremy.
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daveonezero
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But google is an ad agency. They just want to mine individuals for information.
Shangounchained
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Exclusives nobody gives a fuck about, Google are mad, Microsoft has been in this business for years invested billions for exclusives and are still finding life hard, who are Google to come up and hack it, I suggest they should stick to FIFA and other multi plats. Leave exclusives to Nintendo and playstation!
DeltaPolarBear
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Difference is that both Sony and MS already have game studios and IPs ready to release games. Google literally just started.
Google has enough data & stats on the world to know what people want they will be ok
Insane Metal
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DAMN YOU, NOSTRADAMUS OF TECHNOLOGY!!!!
I remember when Atari , Sega & Nintendo already had game studios & IPs ready to release games while Sony was literally just starting & somehow Sony sold more consoles than anyone had ever sold before.
DeltaPolarBear
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Sony actually had games lined up for PS1. Google is not even close.
rəddəM
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Is it the brand? The box? The exclusives? The services?
I guess Sony just took gaming more seriously than anyone else and got lucky they got so many good studios (best of the best) so early on.
I like PlayStation ecosystem and diversity.
As a kid who was like the only kid around me who had a PS1 for the 1st few years I have to say it wasn't Sony games that sold the PS1 it was 3rd party games ,
It was the games & also the more than just a game console vibe they was pushing , PlayStation broke through to markets that wasn't really there before. Jocks , Thugs , Teenage Girls , Grownups , Car Lovers everyone was buying PlayStation once it caught on , Sega also had these markets but these markets grew when PlayStation took off.
Google could reach markets that don't really buy consoles but like games .
StreetsofBeige
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Duplex powered? Sounds weak.
We need 600 unit condominium powered.
We need 600 unit condominium powered.
DeltaPolarBear
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I don't think there is a much of an untapped market left that is sandwiched between phone gamers and console gamers.
Heimdall_Xtreme
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Look At Me!!!! Look At me!!!
I am desperate to sell my mediocre product, which I am going to invent insane things.
Fuck off Google Stadia
I am desperate to sell my mediocre product, which I am going to invent insane things.
Fuck off Google Stadia
You underestimate the power of convenience .
Picture a game coming out that take the market by storm & everyone is talking about it & you go to google it to see what the fuss is about and there is a play now button right there for you to just play the game.
You don't think this will reach a untapped market?
The Scrivener
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What the fuck is Duplex? Is it like a Google condom or something?
DeltaPolarBear
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Not when you need an actually separate controller that you carry with you. And further more, that is not what Stadia is right now. You are describing what Stadia currently isn't planning to be.
Rean no Kiseki
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"I bet you can Google, you are a big boy after all but what about Timmy who's stuck with Comcast's shitty internet speeds and data limits? What about those 3rd worlders with no local servers and even worse internet speeds like Pablo, Alexi and Ahmed?"
Google:" Well....... "
Shangounchained
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Data and statistics aren't art, mathematics can never replace art, meaning you can have all the data and statistics and fail to create art, especially in this business people will always buy Nintendo to play Mario and playstation to play god of war,
Those are works of art that are stuck in people's lives since childhood, Microsoft have invested in exclusives but still fail for the same reasons, they think if they throw money into companies to make them exclusives then it'll happen but no, it doesn't work like that "art is priceless"
DeltaPolarBear
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Fundamentally, it is tricky to create art. Because you can't just give artists infinite money and time; history proved that if you do that, most artists would never finish what they are working on and will polish forever. Classic example is the Mona Lisa, which was never delivered to the purchaser because Da Vinci consider it "unfinished". One could argue that also is what happened to Half Life 3.
On the other hand, you also can't restrict money and time too much. Because otherwise you get buggey mess like WWE 2K20.
It is all about the right amount of money and right amount of time. And a lot of planning. Money is part of the requirement, but not the only requirement.
Shangounchained
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Your still doing math, I meant art as in not just simply collecting a bunch of artists and tell them to make you an exclusive this isn't art this is math still, art is something creative and original, nobody told yoshida to make Mario or Kojima to make metal gear, art comes naturally neither Google or Microsoft can buy it, they can only be clever in choosing the right artist or company to do that job not ask for it,
This is where playstation wins, they know who is good in his art and they buy them look at ghost of tsushima, uncharted, god of war I mean if I'm sending a guy in a painting auction house I'll be sending Sony. And lastly it's not about the pixels and polygons Google are boasting about its how you use them, Pc games have always had double the numbers but artistically they are bland compared to playstation titles or Nintendo, conclusion money simply just doesn't make you a ZELDA!
Piercatore
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Still waiting for quantum gaming Google.
Just to play two games at the same time.
Just to play two games at the same time.
Shangounchained
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You do realise all that talk about quantum processing was all banter, same way they talked about cold fusion.
DeltaPolarBear
Member
Well quantum computing is a thing now, it's just that you litterally need liquid nitrogen to cool it. So quantum computing is at a similar place to when traditional computers took up a whole room.
Shangounchained
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Exactly it's not that it's impossible it's just that Google claims are fraud, I don't think they got it right like how they claim this JuJu stuff is the same as when they tried nuclear fusion and only lasted seconds or when they tried cold fusion, but then again even classical computers can do gazillions of calculations given enough cooling, you can't cheat physics.
spons
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So they launch Stadia just in spite? A bunch of indie exclusives and multi-plats isn't going to get people to use your service.
GhostOfTsu
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I think it was OnLive that said the exact same line about using "supercomputers" to achieve graphics not possible for home PCs. We all know how that turned out lol I can't believe Google is using the same tragic nonsense seriously.
trikster40
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Crackdown 3 says “promises, promises”.
StreetsofBeige
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Think of a suplex, but better.
GrayFoxPL
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Google: Stadia exclusives to have features “not possible” on home hardware
From thousands of on-screen soldiers to Duplex-powered “believable human interactions.”…arstechnica.com
Oh Jade, you're so cute when you're talking nonsense.
Piercatore
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Clearly there was a note of irony in my post
iconmaster
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Yeah, this is the first interesting thing I've heard about Stadia.
But in reality, who's going to make a game that depends that substantially on Google's backend to work? It'd be unportable to any other platform, including PC.
The only games that could be expected to do any of this would be Stadia exclusives. I'm not holding my breath.
Vow of Silence
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The processing power will be used to create millions of genders on the fly.
