James Sawyer Ford
Gold Member
Yes, so they won't. And that's the point. Only GAAS is day and date.
It also adds enormous amounts of stress to their first party teams to try and coordinate for a multiplatform PC release day and date.
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Horizon: Forbidden West releases on Steam with lower player count than Horizon: Zero Dawn
Yes, so they won't. And that's the point. Only GAAS is day and date.
It also adds enormous amounts of stress to their first party teams to try and coordinate for a multiplatform PC release day and date.
Gudji
Member
You can't make shit like this up. Yes you're blind.
James Sawyer Ford
Gold Member
They need to go day and date with these releases to make any real profit like with helldivers 2. but they also know it will affect their console sales even more.
Probably shouldve just stuck with the console business instead of trying to get a slice of that PC pie.
These numbers for their single player games shipping 2 years after launch are pretty underwhelming.
We shouldn't look at peak player counts for single player games. That's totally disingenuous. They've sold a lot of copies of Spiderman, Horizon, and God of War.
Nydius
Member
That’s rich considering you’re the one who posted side by side images proving me right.
But keep digging your hole deeper, clown.
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Fake
Member
I'm shocked.
Gudji
Member
The only thing I proved is that this forum as some really crazy people in it. HFW model has more polygons and detail, the overall model of Aloy is identical to the first game.
Masterofchapter
Banned
That's not woke bro, that's diversity, woke means you're aware of injustice happening to minority communities by the system, mixing both is dangerous, stop living in right wing propaganda never good for you
Killjoy-NL
Gold Member
To Sony, it's just extra sales. It only has to make a profit.
PC isn't their primary market.
PC isn't their primary market.
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DForce
NaughtyDog Defense Force
The only "significant change" is that her model/skin texture is higher quality. Saying that somehow she looks more masculine is a big reach.
willothedog
Member
GymWolf
Gold Member
Better than the cow mod for re4 remakeport the HZD cow suit mod
Not safe for wank
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ProtoByte
Weeb Underling
You think 3 million over 3 years is a lot?
Gudji
Member
James Sawyer Ford
Gold Member
For essentially free money, yes. Many of these projects take less than $2.5M to port.
It's not a game changer, but it probably adds an incremental amount to their margins and stabilizes cash flow between console release
ComputerBlue
Member
Not surprised, it’s a mediocre jank ass game, actually the only reason I think it’s doing better than uUncharted is because who the hell wants to play the fourth game in a story driven series without playing the first three.
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Neofire
Member
Damn is this how you support the developers that bent over backwards to port it to PC? Lol
Neofire
Member
I agree with most of your statement but blockbuster IPs that move ps5 units for Sony should stay exclusive, imo only GaaS(yeah I know)should be multiplatform with Sonys platforms taking priority.
SportsFan581
Member
The second game was less successful than the first on PS right? Seems reasonable for that to carry over to PC also.
mckmas8808
Mckmaster uses MasterCard to buy Slave drives
Woke games are not exactly hot shit these days. Also:
Why do people like posting this fake image? As if Aloy actually looked that way in Forbidden West. Yall can't see that this is a lie?
No. But you also just listed Ubisoft's best selling games of all time. And they were ALL multiplatform. Horizon: FW isn't.
Magic Carpet
Gold Member
Happy for the port, but PS5 already got my money for the main game, I'm double dipping on PC for the DLC burning shore.
PC PC PC from here on out.
ProtoByte
Weeb Underling
Free money today comes with a cost tomorrow.
It hasn't and will not transform the situation they're in. 4 years of PC ports hasn't stopped them from laying people off like everyone else, and internally racing to get things fixed because margins are slim.
ChorizoPicozo
Member
good
ChorizoPicozo
Member
the third installment
Aloy > Ashley confirmed
mckmas8808
Mckmaster uses MasterCard to buy Slave drives
Mainly due to Sony putting it on PS+ too early. We've seen the numbers from the leak. We know the truth.
rodrigolfp
Haptic Gamepads 4 Life
But it is.
DenchDeckard
Moderated wildly
I think it's performing considerably worse than the first across the board isn't it?
It felt like it went on sale crazy fast in the UK. Supermarkets like Tesco were selling it for £15 the November of its launch year. That's like a quarter of the price.
SportsFan581
Member
Weren't the sales already down before the inclusion there, launch aligned? Sometimes an IP just loses a little steam. From some of what you hear about it, I'd expect a third game to do a little worse still, seems like a franchise that people like but can tire of.
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Dreathlock
Member
Played it on PS. This is a woke boring game. It does not deserve better numbers.
Kacho
Gold Member
Part quirky character flaw, part Brazilian
mckmas8808
Mckmaster uses MasterCard to buy Slave drives
No it wasn't. We saw the chart in the hacks. They were basically the same launch aligned. It was PS+ that hurt the sales of FW. It's the same thing that MS sees each time they release a first party game. The subscription service kills the sales of games. Nothing new was learned.
Neofire
Member
Hey I can't be mad at your decision. From the sound of it the port isn't doing well.
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King Dazzar
Member
lol I know big girls need loving too. But my brain is now permanently scarred!Better than the cow mod for re4 remake
Not safe for wank
daninthemix
Member
It's currently #4 in the global top sellers (right underneath Helldivers 2), so when people actually start playing it things might change.
ShadowkillXNA
Member
Yes, a series that has sold 30 million copies isnt "attractive to the general audience".
U n i o n 0015
Member
Just my gut feeling here, it's too expensive on the PC market. It's gotta be an amazing game for me to spend more than $45 on it.
$60 USD on PC is asking a lot.
$60 USD on PC is asking a lot.
Gudji
Member
Almost every AAA game now is around 65 USD. Starfield was like 70 USD/Euros from what I recall.
Think it's a really fair price considering the quality of the game and that it also includes the DLC that came out recently.
Will not buy full price tho because I already own it on PS5 (and I think my PC might not be able to run it properly
).
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Windom Earle
Member
A face only a mother could loveHZD
HFW
Man you guys are always reaching with this game. Aloy must have killed someone in your family or some shit.
That is the equivalent to DSP saying: "That's not begging that's marketing"
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Gudji
Member
SportsFan581
Member
I think that makes far too bold of an assumption of where the sales would have gone anyway. The first game announced this as a new IP, anything short of the second release being noticeably faster selling could in reality be looked at as a decline. The built in audience that purchased and loved the first one should convert quickly and fuel strong sales of the second, unless a lot of those that bought the first one weren't sure if they were interested in another. Which is basically the definition of an IP that might be declining. There was no guarantee that this ever had the tail the first one had, no guarantee the other way either, but the point still stands.
With that said, maybe for Sony they will wait longer to put games on a sub. EA has been doing a year or so and says the result are positive for them, and they've been doing that for years. But, perhaps Sony's games take a little longer to max out their traditional sales.
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Buggy Loop
Member
Barely made it to the finish line with Zero Dawn on PC. Not interested in Forbidden west outside of a visual curiosity. I want nothing from the gameplay. Boring ubisoft recipe.
Agent_4Seven
Tears of Nintendo
Gee, I wonder why...
Sony is just stupid af and must hate this IP, cuz I can't think of any reason but this for them to release the game (and ports) each time alongside huge new releases. And let's not forget that Steam Spring sale just ended and people bought a bunch of shit cheap and probably have no plans on buying anything else, let alone full price game from 2 years ago.
If I were working at Guerrilla and had a say, I would've demanded from Sony to let studio decide when the game will be released, after so many horrible marketing decision and suicidal release dates.
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U n i o n 0015
Member
For sure, but the PC space is almost universally cheaper, so full-pricing a two year old game is at least, anecdotally, why some may not buy it on release. I'm definitely going to pick it up, but I've set an under $30 alert on IsThereAnyDeal.
Bernoulli
M2 slut
They ruined the forehead shapeWoke games are not exactly hot shit these days. Also:
Men_in_Boxes
Snake Oil Salesman
When I see a list like this I start singing "One of these things is not like the others" and am filled with pure joy.
owandeseis
Member
Meanwhile Dragon's Dogma 2 at 70$ with almost 10x more players than Horizon.
The fact that it's 2 years old hurts sales that's true, and the terrible word of mouth this saga has, specially the second part, doesn't help.