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Horizon Zero Dawn Remastered | Review Thread

Chuck Berry

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Girl looks so like an ex of mine circa 2001 😂

Replaying reminds me how much more likable she is in this compared to her stubborn cuntiness in part 2. She says thank you. She’s compassionate. There’s inflection in her voice. She doesn’t speak under her breath after taking Valium.

Stark difference.

Indeed they did her personality dirty in FW just like they ruined Ellie in LoU2!
 

M1987

Member
It's a massive upgrade.I have only just started it, and the only complaints I have is the cutscenes look a bit weird,and the lip sync is pretty bad
 

Chuck Berry

Gold Member
I don’t remember this side quest whatsoever so maybe one of you will. It’s called “Acquired Taste” and it’s located here.

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It’s basically a long bounty hunting side quest where this weird dude in a shack instructs you to bring him the blood of various of machines for him to drink 😬

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And then 😮

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I don’t remember this scene let alone this quest. The callout to the sequel. Everything. Has this always been here? Am I tripping?
 
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Maitre_Piccolo

Neo Member
Has this always been here? Am I tripping?
Always been there, and it's pretty popular side quest of the game actually

EDIT : about the reference to Forbidden West in the dialogue, I don't remember. I know Forbidden West was referenced in the first game, but I don't remember if it was in that quest.

EDIT2 : Yes it was https://horizon.fandom.com/wiki/Acquired_Taste
 
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The way they've handled Trophies is a bit odd. I imported my save and I was in the DLC area at level 58. As soon as I hit level 59, all of the level trophies (except 60, obviously) popped one after the other. Replayed the final mission of the main game, and got the trophy for having
recruited all allies
and for completing the game. None of the combat-related or hunting ground ones seem to pop after doing them again though.
 

Chuck Berry

Gold Member
Always been there, and it's pretty popular side quest of the game actually

EDIT : about the reference to Forbidden West in the dialogue, I don't remember. I know Forbidden West was referenced in the first game, but I don't remember if it was in that quest.

EDIT2 : Yes it was https://horizon.fandom.com/wiki/Acquired_Taste

Holy shit. Somehow over three playthroughs I never took on this quest 😂 Christ I suck
 
Agreed. The story in HZD was great; HFW's was fair to middling. I also loved the combat in HZD and was disappointed with the changes they made in HFW (more aggressive machines, more reactive, less strategic). I also disliked what they did with the Cauldrons. And although female-first perspective was evident in the first game, it made more sense there; I found it more obtrusive in the second, less believable, and by the time the expansion rolled around, it seemed like nearly everyone was a lesbian, lol. The graphics and sidequests were better in the second game, though, that's for sure.
Forbidden West is being highly under sold for the improvements it has. Its much better than its given credit for.

Its clear going back to the first game there are QOL improvements missing that massively improve the gameplay mechanics. The grappling hook and glider makes exploration more fun, and the option to add items to storage improves the inventory system. The melee combat and skill tree system is much better. There is actual combos and more weapon variety, with each weapon having a secondary feature. Skill trees even have different special abilities that you can build through combat, with a cool anime like animation once activated running in real time.


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The devs made it a point of emphasis in order to upgrade weapons or outfits, you have to shoot off specfic parts or risk those being destroyed if you kill the machine first. That makes the combat more strategic and doesnt allow you to spam arrows or explosives. There more rare parts come from the most dangerous machines. The lore in the first game explains how the machines become more agressive and dangerous as time pass.

Alloy is actually bisexual, she had relationship dialogue options for both sexes. They gave players a choice to choose if you wanted a same sex relationship, it wasnt forced. None of the romance is forced on the player, but both sexes subtlety flirt with her.
 

nowhat

Gold Member
Another thing I’m glad they didn’t mess with. The map/menu theme is Mass Effect galaxy map tier to me.
Not only the audio. The map is actually... useful. Sure, you can't tilt the camera or anything like that, but by moving the cursor around, you can figure out heights and such. This is sadly quite rare these days, maps can be completely useless.
 
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Humdinger

Gold Member
Forbidden West is being highly under sold for the improvements it has. Its much better than its given credit for. [...]

If you liked HFW's combat more, cool. I didn't like HFW's combat as much, for reasons I mentioned earlier and also because the game suffered from a "more is better" approach, which was quite evident in combat (as well as elsewhere). In combat, they threw in a ton of new weapons (none of which were that interesting), a slew of new arrow types, a bunch of new machine resistances to consider, and multiple upgrade paths for each weapon. To me, this just overcomplicated and screwed up the combat system of the first game. Sometimes less is more. They also neutered some of the weapons I had fun with in the first game.

But if you like it, that's fine. Combat styles are often a matter of preference.
 

Dorfdad

Gold Member
Hated the sequel and in fact couldn’t make it past 7 hours. Loved the first so for 10 bucks to revisit the beautiful world sounds like a decent deal. I’m just done with the if it could be called franchise. Feel like Horizon should have been a one and done. Awesome mystery and cool combat in a gorgeous world but it seems Sony wants to shove this series up gamers asses. I miss Killzone.
Problem was Killzone was ahead of its time. Had they made that in the ps4 era it would be more popular than horizon imho. I wish they gave it a reboot and focused on single player campaign even

Same with resistance fall of man…
 
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nowhat

Gold Member
Alloy is actually bisexual, she had relationship dialogue options for both sexes. They gave players a choice to choose if you wanted a same sex relationship, it wasnt forced. None of the romance is forced on the player, but both sexes subtlety flirt with her.
True, but I always figured she'd be into huffin' the muffin', so the FW DLC gave me no freakouts. Come on, let the girl at least have a kiss every now and then.
 

Loomy

Thinks Microaggressions are Real
Few hours in. Well worth the upgrade fee. If you've never played this game before, this is an amazing remaster. Only seen 1 persistent bug in the settings so far. Some text appearing over top of some other text.
 
Damn it, this game is forcing me to take a screenshot every couple of minutes :p.


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Great pics. Weirdly tho this is how I remember what the game looked like few years ago when I played on PC. Main difference is the hero lighting on Aloy.

However, I'm sure actual comparisons with original version will bring out the differences.
 

James Sawyer Ford

Gold Member
The devs made it a point of emphasis in order to upgrade weapons or outfits, you have to shoot off specfic parts or risk those being destroyed if you kill the machine first. That makes the combat more strategic and doesnt allow you to spam arrows or explosives. There more rare parts come from the most dangerous machines. The lore in the first game explains how the machines become more agressive and dangerous as time pass.

I think the issue I had with HFW is that the actual "shooting of parts" seemed to be just annoying at not fun, due to how aggressive the enemies are.

Like, you had to stop, slow down time, shoot an insane amount of times for a bullet sponge enemy, hope you don't kill them first to get the parts, etc.

I wish the game focused less on the slowed down component of the hectic gameplay because it always felt really jarring to me.
 
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I don't think it's has a really huge impact when we see that the franchise has sold over 30 million copies and that figure is from May 2023 in just two games. A lot of franchises would like to have the same curse as Horizon.

It remains a remaster that the majority of people will take at 10 dollars and the pre-orders on PSN seemed to be quite good.
 
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Fess

Member
I don't think it's has a really huge impact when we see that the franchise has sold over 30 million copies and that figure is from May 2023 in just two games. A lot of franchises would like to have the same curse as Horizon.

It remains a remaster that the majority of people will take at 10 dollars and the pre-orders on PSN seemed to be quite good.
Could’ve been bigger. They always release the games near something more popular.
Zero Dawn - Breath of the Wild
Forbidden West - Tears of the Kingdom
Remastered - MHW beta and Veilguard
And why not line it up with PS5 Pro launch and give it a boost with a nice Pro mode?
 

Ozriel

M$FT
The problem is not Veilguard. Its the Monster Hunter beta.

It isn’t Monster Hunter beta that’s keeping it out of the top 50 sellers on Steam, or restricting the peak performance to 2500 players.

It just isn’t selling that well on Steam, which means buyers are going elsewhere with their money. Not because of a free demo

Better release timing and possibly a new push with the PS5 Pro would have helped.
 
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Playing through the Remaster last night - I feel like it's in some ways better than HFW visually, the foliage and geomtry rendering is just insanely good, and the lighting is gorgeous even though it's not using ray-tracing.

I've noticed the 60 FPS mode is very solid too, doesn't feel over-sharpened and no funny shimmering. It's a very well optimized game.
 

nowhat

Gold Member
Playing through the Remaster last night - I feel like it's in some ways better than HFW visually, the foliage and geomtry rendering is just insanely good, and the lighting is gorgeous even though it's not using ray-tracing.

I've noticed the 60 FPS mode is very solid too, doesn't feel over-sharpened and no funny shimmering. It's a very well optimized game.
It looks absolutely gorgeous. Just got to Meridian (I had forgot how the game is kind of a drag up to that point, but now shit's about to happen). And yes, switched to performance mode - it seems just as fine as balanced, at least with my eyesight/distance from the TV.

Just one thing. The "lense flares", I suppose you could call them. Did they previously cover like an entire section of the screen horizontally? Maybe I'm remembering wrong, but I don't think they did. And that's a bit distracting. It's a nice looking effect for sure, just tone it down a bit.
 

Humdinger

Gold Member
True, but I always figured she'd be into huffin' the muffin', so the FW DLC gave me no freakouts. Come on, let the girl at least have a kiss every now and then.

Yeah, no freak out here, but just to clarify, it's not just Aloy we're talking about. In addition to Aloy, at least 5 other central female characters are lesbian - Aloy's mother, Tilda, Petra, Alva, and Seyka. In other words, more of the main female characters are lesbian or bisexual than are straight. That's a little weird.

And although the expansion does give you an option to decline to make out with Seyka, the lead-up to that moment makes it fairly clear where it's "supposed" to end up. For instance, on the way there, Aloy will say things to herself like, "Why do I keep thinking about her?" or "Why am I having these strong feelings towards her?" It's pretty clear where it's going. So even if you do decline to kiss her, you just end up feeling as if you're in denial about your homosexuality, lol...
 
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Kerotan

Member
The way they've handled Trophies is a bit odd. I imported my save and I was in the DLC area at level 58. As soon as I hit level 59, all of the level trophies (except 60, obviously) popped one after the other. Replayed the final mission of the main game, and got the trophy for having
recruited all allies
and for completing the game. None of the combat-related or hunting ground ones seem to pop after doing them again though.
My friend was already level 60 so can't get the trophy for hitting level 50 now. They should really patch this.
 

nowhat

Gold Member
My friend was already level 60 so can't get the trophy for hitting level 50 now. They should really patch this.
There are some other issues as well. With a new save, if you unlock all the goodies you get, your armor inventory will be full. So by the point you get to the Proving, and meet again whatshisname, he will offer you a new armor. And you'll be unable to accept it, unless you get rid of some of the armor you already have. Or you should have upgraded your armor capacity at that point.
 
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Gaiff

SBI’s Resident Gaslighter
Yeah, no freak out here, but just to clarify, it's not just Aloy we're talking about. In addition to Aloy, at least 5 other central female characters are lesbian - Aloy's mother, Tilda, Petra, Alva, and Seyka. In other words, more of the main female characters are lesbian or bisexual than are straight. That's a little weird.

And although the expansion does give you an option to decline to make out with Seyka, the lead-up to that moment makes it fairly clear where it's "supposed" to end up. For instance, on the way there, Aloy will say things to herself like, "Why do I keep thinking about her?" or "Why am I having these strong feelings towards her?" It's pretty clear where it's going. So even if you do decline to kiss her, you just end up feeling as if you're in denial about your homosexuality, lol...
"Little weird" is an interesting way to frame blatant agenda pushing.
 

Elginer

Member
Problem was Killzone was ahead of its time. Had they made that in the ps4 era it would be more popular than horizon imho. I wish they gave it a reboot and focused on single player campaign even

Same with resistance fall of man…
I’d kill for a new Resistance, the mp was fun as hell. Hell how about at least let’s remaster these games Sony? Oh no that makes no sense at all let’s remaster games that don’t truly need it.
 

Dorfdad

Gold Member
I’d kill for a new Resistance, the mp was fun as hell. Hell how about at least let’s remaster these games Sony? Oh no that makes no sense at all let’s remaster games that don’t truly need it.
Agree I really want a new co op shooter like this with world bosses
 

Gonzito

Gold Member
One thing I dont like and I think they should have fixed too is that when you finish a conversation with someone, the character you were talking to moves in a crazy way, turning very unnaturally his body. It kinda breaks the immersion

You can see what I mean here in this video when Aloy finishes talking to Erend in 1:49:20

 
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FeastYoEyes

Member
I think ZD is a better game that FW. I was pretty let down by FW. Didn't make enough upgrades and I thought they made the armor system worse. And it was way too fucking long, it just went on forever. I thought ZD had a more interesting plot too.
Couldn't agree more. The gameplay was streamlined in the first and bloated in the second. I do think the idea of
a technologically advanced human coming back to earth
was an awesome idea but they do absolutely nothing with it and spend 90 percent of the game in clan politics.
 
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