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[CatPee]

Okay, so here's my current PC, built 3 years ago:

- AMD Phenom(tm) II X4 945 3.0GHZ Processor
- 4GB RAM ( CORSAIR 2GB 16000MHZ x2 )
- EVGA NVIDIA GTX 260 CORE 216 896MB
- PC Power and Cooling S75QB Silencer 750W Quad Power Supply
in a
- CoolerMaster Centurion 590 case


I've been looking to upgrade but it feels like I'm going to need to replace pretty much everything, except maybe the power supply (though I'm not really even sure on that).

Here are my needs:
Budget: $1000 - US
Main Use: Gaming, Image Editing, HD Streaming, minor 3D work, general. Basically my work and play PC.
Monitor Resolution: 1920x1080
List SPECIFIC games that you MUST be able to play: SimCity 5 (or whatever it is called), Witcher 2, Elder Scrolls, Dark Souls
Looking to reuse any parts?: PC Power and Cooling S75QB Silencer 750W Quad Power Supply
When will you build?: By the end of the year
Will you be overclocking?: No




Been messing with a build here:

- Intel Core i5-3570K 3.40 GHz 6MB LGA1155
- 1TB Western Digital Caviar Blue SATA-III 6.0Gb/s 7200 RPM HDD
- 8GB (4GBx2) DDR3/1600MHz
- GIGABYTE GA-Z77-D3H Intel Z77 Chipset DDR3 ATX Mainboard
- GeForce GTX 650 2GB 16X PCIe 3.0

- Total: $965.70 (shipping + tax included)


Does that look like something I should pursue, or should I just take it one thing at a time? I'm definitely feeling the age of my current PC and I'd like another one that can last me a couple years with maybe an upgrade here or there.

A $1k PC with a GTX650? The parts you already listed excluding the 650 can be had for ~$400 ordered from the right combination of vendors. Considering you're already reusing the PSU, what are the other components that are costing you that much?

 

[Horsemama1956]

A $1k PC with a GTX650? The parts you already listed excluding the 650 can be had for ~$400 ordered from the right combination of vendors. Considering you're already reusing the PSU, what are the other components that are costing you that much?

Shit, I would just buy a cooler and overclock the phenom II and grab a nice GPU. Maybe another 4GB of memory, if he wants.

 

[Lucis]

A $1k PC with a GTX650? The parts you already listed excluding the 650 can be had for ~$400 ordered from the right combination of vendors. Considering you're already reusing the PSU, what are the other components that are costing you that much?

That pricing seems a bit off

I just bought these, came out to be about 930$

i5 3570k
gigabyte windforce 670
asrock z77 extreme 4
2x8gb gskill
new cool master fan

 

[Sigmaah]

Alright, so the guy whose building my computer gave me a list of parts I should buy, he has the power supply already and its like a 650 or 700 one. I just wanna know if this is a good build for 1000? Also, do I NEED a cooler? if it helps a lot then I think I should get one correct?

 

[YianGaruga]

Is there any model of GTX 670 that is recommended over others?
I'm currently looking at the Gigabyte Windforce (GV-N670OC-2GD) and the ASUS GTX670-DC2-2GD5. The Gigabyte seems better and is also cheaper.

Any other options?

 

[CatPee]

Alright, so the guy whose building my computer gave me a list of parts I should buy, he has the power supply already and its like a 650 or 700 one. I just wanna know if this is a good build for 1000? Also, do I NEED a cooler? if it helps a lot then I think I should get one correct?
http://i.imgur.com/Bp5qJ.jpg

Unless you absolutely need the hyperthreading, opt for a 2500K or 3570K instead and put the extra funds towards a 670. You don't need an aftermarket cooler if you don't intend on overclocking right away, but get one if you do.

Is there any model of GTX 670 that is recommended over others?
I'm currently looking at the Gigabyte Windforce (GV-N670OC-2GD) and the ASUS GTX670-DC2-2GD5. The Gigabyte seems better and is also cheaper.

Any other options?

Windforce is pretty much the model to get.

 

[YianGaruga]

Windforce is pretty much the model to get.

Thanks, that's what I thought. It's also one of the cheapest cards I could find right now (~350€), so that's a very tempting combination.

 

[timetokill]

I'd say look to OC your CPU to 3.6 or something if you can. Grab a 660Ti/7950 and try to stick it out for Haswell in 6-9 months.

Problem is if you are doing work on your PC as well you might as well upgrade now as it'll be a very nice performance boost and 6-9 months is quite a while.

Your PSU is fine.

Shit, I would just buy a cooler and overclock the phenom II and grab a nice GPU. Maybe another 4GB of memory, if he wants.

Okay, thanks guys.

I'll go the route of the 660Ti and wait on the CPU upgrade for a bit.

What do you guys suggest for a good cooling solution, then? My PC already runs hot enough as it is, so I'd want to upgrade that as well if I'm not throwing the whole thing out.

 

[Fantasmo]

Hey guys I'm ready to buy a new PC, but I need some help.

I'm buying this for two purposes, PC lab work (3 or 4 Virtual machines running simultaneously), and gaming.

This is what I know I want so far:

16GB RAM
128GB SSD
$400 video card (nvidia 670?)
3570 ivy bridge i5
Dolby digital live sound card (not optional, not upgrading my receiver this year)
Preferably HTPC case
Power supply
Not overclocking
Not doing SLI
Unknown Motherboard
Windows 7

Already have 250gb sata drive
KB/M
Optical drive
Monitor

I'd like to order it today and keep it around $1000, but I can go up to $1200 maximum.
Any help much appreciated.

Thanks!

 

[Dark Octave]

I'm debating the MSI 660ti or the EVGA. I hear the dual fans of the MSI cool the whole thing while the EVGA doesn't. Anyone know if this would be true or not? Would it even matter?

Hey guys I'm ready to buy a new PC, but I need some help.

I'm buying this for two purposes, PC lab work (3 or 4 Virtual machines running simultaneously), and gaming.

This is what I know I want so far:

16GB RAM
128GB SSD
$400 video card (nvidia 670?)
3570 ivy bridge i5
Dolby digital live sound card (not optional, not upgrading my receiver this year)
Preferably HTPC case
Power supply
Not overclocking
Not doing SLI
Unknown Motherboard
Windows 7

Already have 250gb sata drive
KB/M
Optical drive
Monitor

I'd like to order it today and keep it around $1000, but I can go up to $1200 maximum.
Any help much appreciated.

Thanks!

Why Windows 7 when 8 is right around the corner? I'm debating these two as well and have heard both sides of the argument. I'm interested in yours as well.

I have 8gb ram right now in the PC I'm building and was about to pick up another 8 just to top it off but someone told me it would be a waste as most games only require as high as 2 or 3 gb ram. He says that when you do video editing is when you may need more ram than 8gb. I would also like a second opinion on this if anyone cares to chime in. I do animation in 2D and 3D so I wonder if that makes a difference.

 

[FunkyMunkey]

Just wanted to thank mkenyon for the razer death adder! It came yesterday and it works wonderfully and was even still in the original packaging. Thank you for the kind gesture and generosity!

Time for some guild wars 2 and black mesa to put it to use B).

 

[Fantasmo]

I'm debating the MSI 660ti or the EVGA. I hear the dual fans of the MSI cool the whole thing while the EVGA doesn't. Anyone know if this would be true or not? Would it even matter?

Why Windows 7 when 8 is right around the corner? I'm debating these two as well and have heard both sides of the argument. I'm interested in yours as well.

I have 8gb ram right now in the PC I'm building and was about to pick up another 8 just to top it off but someone told me it would be a waste as most games only require as high as 2 or 3 gb ram. He says that when you do video editing is when you may need more ram than 8gb. I would also like a second opinion on this if anyone cares to chime in. I do animation in 2D and 3D so I wonder if that makes a difference.

I work with 7 for a living so I just don't need 8.
I need more RAM for VMs, not for gaming.

 

[froliq]

Currently thinking about stepping up to 2560x1440 monitor. Problem is I'm currently using a GTX560Ti and it obviously wont be able to power the more demanding games at that resolution and I don't have the funds currently to get both a new GPU and monitor. Would it be worth it to jump on the monitor right now? It only has 1GB VRAM, will that be a too big of a issue? New GPU would come in 3-4 months probably. I'm currently looking at the HD7950, since I doubt there will be a new series of GPUs out by then.

I'll mostly be playing DOTA2, GW2, WoW and clear up some of my steam backlog. Stuff like Alan Wake, Batman: AA, Saints Row: The Third and Darksiders.

 

[Hazaro]

My second monitor died. Not really feeling the need for a 120Hz. It's so expensive.
Don't really want to jump on the Korean eBay IPS or the 120Hz IPS due to warranties.

I need a replacement pretty quickly though. How do people even use one monitor.

Currently thinking about stepping up to 2560x1440 monitor. Problem is I'm currently using a GTX560Ti and it obviously wont be able to power the more demanding games at that resolution and I don't have the funds currently to get both a new GPU and monitor. Would it be worth it to jump on the monitor right now? It only has 1GB VRAM, will that be a too big of a issue? New GPU would come in 3-4 months probably. I'm currently looking at the HD7950, since I doubt there will be a new series of GPUs out by then.

I'll mostly be playing DOTA2, GW2, WoW and clear up some of my steam backlog. Stuff like Alan Wake, Batman: AA, Saints Row: The Third and Darksiders.

If you check benches it's not pretty. 1GB of VRAM isn't going to help at all and you'd have to basically only use FXAA/whatever as normal AA would eat a good amount of VRAM if there was any left to spare.

Hey guys I'm ready to buy a new PC, but I need some help.

I'm buying this for two purposes, PC lab work (3 or 4 Virtual machines running simultaneously), and gaming.

This is what I know I want so far:

16GB RAM
128GB SSD
$400 video card (nvidia 670?)
3570 ivy bridge i5
Dolby digital live sound card (not optional, not upgrading my receiver this year)
Preferably HTPC case
Power supply
Not overclocking
Not doing SLI
Unknown Motherboard
Windows 7

Already have 250gb sata drive
KB/M
Optical drive
Monitor

I'd like to order it today and keep it around $1000, but I can go up to $1200 maximum.
Any help much appreciated.

Thanks!

1) Windforce 670
2) Grab a 3770K (Will help with VMs)
3) Check ASUS's line. I think they added some more sound cards (Xonar).
4) HTPC case is something I don't know off the top of my head
5) Mobo might have to be mATX for above. ASRock Z77 mATX is 110 for the Pro4-M iirc
6) This PSU is on sale and a great unit: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817151093

Okay, thanks guys.

I'll go the route of the 660Ti and wait on the CPU upgrade for a bit.

What do you guys suggest for a good cooling solution, then? My PC already runs hot enough as it is, so I'd want to upgrade that as well if I'm not throwing the whole thing out.

CM 212+ Pretty sure it has mounts for everything.

Alright, so the guy whose building my computer gave me a list of parts I should buy, he has the power supply already and its like a 650 or 700 one. I just wanna know if this is a good build for 1000? Also, do I NEED a cooler? if it helps a lot then I think I should get one correct?

3570K for gaming. The 1TB WD Blue like I listed in the OP (1TB platter version).
You don't need a cooler. Get one if you plan to OC.
Case wise check out the OP and pick one you like.

 

[Fantasmo]

1) Windforce 670
2) Grab a 3770K (Will help with VMs)
3) Check ASUS's line. I think they added some more sound cards (Xonar).
4) HTPC case is something I don't know off the top of my head
5) Mobo might have to be mATX for above. ASRock Z77 mATX is 110 for the Pro4-M iirc
6) This PSU is on sale and a great unit: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817151093

Couple questions.

Which SSD do I want to go with? 128 GB is enough for me for a few VMs and a few games. The rest Ill probabaly dump onto the 250GB
Which RAM do I want 16GB of?
What am I sacrificing by going mATX?
I know i7 will help with VMs, but I've heard it's not really necessary for just completing Microsoft exams. Hell, a friend of mine did his exams on an somewhat older quad core AMD. Do I really have to go higher than an i5 3570?

Can anyone else chime in on the HTPC case?

 

[mkenyon]

Couple questions.

Which SSD do I want to go with? 128 GB is enough for me for a few VMs and a few games. The rest Ill probabaly dump onto the 250GB
Which RAM do I want 16GB of?
What am I sacrificing by going mATX?
I know i7 will help with VMs, but I've heard it's not really necessary for just completing Microsoft exams. Hell, a friend of mine did his exams on an somewhat older quad core AMD. Do I really have to go higher than an i5 3570?

Can anyone else chime in on the HTPC case?

First, I second Haz's suggestions. I quoted your post and had all of that in mind before I saw his

1) Samsung 830, Crucial M4, Corsair Force GT. In that order of preference.
2) Samsung 30nm - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820147096
3) Expansion slots.
4) It means you can dedicate up to 8 different threads to Virtual machines. With the 3570K, you can only do 4. Having a whole thread/core dedicated to a VM helps a lot with performance.

There aren't a lot of good HTPC cases out there, to be honest. Most are horribly overpriced, and the decent ones are all ITX. There are two coming out from Fractal, call the Node, but they won't be out for a few months at least. There are some really nifty mATX options though. Check out the Fractal Define Mini, Silverstone TJ08, PS07, Lian Li V354, V600, A04, V351, and A05/A06 (ATX compatible but super compact).

Currently thinking about stepping up to 2560x1440 monitor. Problem is I'm currently using a GTX560Ti and it obviously wont be able to power the more demanding games at that resolution and I don't have the funds currently to get both a new GPU and monitor. Would it be worth it to jump on the monitor right now? It only has 1GB VRAM, will that be a too big of a issue? New GPU would come in 3-4 months probably. I'm currently looking at the HD7950, since I doubt there will be a new series of GPUs out by then.

I'll mostly be playing DOTA2, GW2, WoW and clear up some of my steam backlog. Stuff like Alan Wake, Batman: AA, Saints Row: The Third and Darksiders.

I'd suggest 120hz over large format to be honest.

 

[Fantasmo]

First, I second Haz's suggestions. I quoted your post and had all of that in mind before I saw his

1) Samsung 830, Crucial M4, Corsair Force GT. In that order of preference.
2) Samsung 30nm - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820147096
3) Expansion slots.
4) It means you can dedicate up to 8 different threads to Virtual machines. With the 3570K, you can only do 4. Having a whole thread/core dedicated to a VM helps a lot with performance.

There aren't a lot of good HTPC cases out there, to be honest. Most are horribly overpriced, and the decent ones are all ITX. There are two coming out from Fractal, call the Node, but they won't be out for a few months at least. There are some really nifty mATX options though. Check out the Fractal Define Mini, Silverstone TJ08, PS07, Lian Li V354, V600, A04, V351, and A05/A06 (ATX compatible but super compact).

You know what, screw it. I'll go with a tower. Let's go backwards and recommend me a motherboard case and power supply. Does that power supply he recommended stay the same if I go with a tower?

I'm gonna have to play with these suggestions. I'm already getting close to the upper limit, wow

 

[AndyD]

Ok, I set up my new PC for the most part. New to this SSD business, but wow.

I remember someone mentioned to make some win7 tweaks due to the SSD to ensure longer life/reliability. What were those again?

 

[Decado]

I have a PC now and will be getting a gaming laptop (prob next year). Do do you guys connect your computer to your home entertainment system? Is an hdmi cable to your HDTV and an optical cable or headphone jack (forget what they're called) to the receiver still standard, or are there better ways?

 

[t-ramp]

I have a PC now and will be getting a gaming laptop (prob next year). Do do you guys connect your computer to your home entertainment system? Is an hdmi cable to your HDTV and an optical cable or headphone jack (forget what they're called) to the receiver still standard, or are there better ways?

That way works fine, nothing has changed there. If you have HDMI passthrough on the receiver you could just go that route, but it's about the same effect. Optical does not support lossless audio formats (DTS-HD and Dolby TrueHD), which you'll need HDMI for, but that's probably not a common concern. I'm not sure if TVs even passthrough or decode those formats anyway, and they are only found on Blu-ray discs as far as I know.

Also, if your TV doesn't pass surround audio you might have to use a direct connection...

Ok, I set up my new PC for the most part. New to this SSD business, but wow.

I remember someone mentioned to make some win7 tweaks due to the SSD to ensure longer life/reliability. What were those again?

What size SSD do you have? A lot of tweaks are just to save space on smaller drives. Otherwise the main thing is just making sure you're in AHCI mode. There aren't any truly necessary changes from within Windows.

 

[Captain N. Tenneal]

I've been debating off and on in the last while if I should build a new computer. My current build is a getting a bit long in the tooth - 5 years old now. It's a Q6600 with 4 gigs of DDR2 ram, 450 watt PSU and a recently upgrade to 7770 card. I've been looking at maybe an i5 2500K as an upgrade, just curious if anyone can offer any insight on what kind of performance gains I'd see. I don't have much money for a new build, so I have to smart about it - would it be worthwhile to jump on it soon, or is it reasonable to assume we'll see some price drops in the next couple months?

 

[mkenyon]

Disabling hibernate and reducing the page file are good steps to sustaining high speeds over time. TRIM is good too.

I've been debating off and on in the last while if I should build a new computer. My current build is a getting a bit long in the tooth - 5 years old now. It's a Q6600 with 4 gigs of DDR2 ram, 450 watt PSU and a recently upgrade to 7770 card. I've been looking at maybe an i5 2500K as an upgrade, just curious if anyone can offer any insight on what kind of performance gains I'd see. I don't have much money for a new build, so I have to smart about it - would it be worthwhile to jump on it soon, or is it reasonable to assume we'll see some price drops in the next couple months?

Just a 2500K/mobo/ram?

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gaming-fx-pentium-apu-benchmark,3120.html

tl;dr, big leaps in some games, none in others.

 

[Celcius]

Can't wait 'til my FT02 gets here tomorrow. Since the windowless version is constantly sold out, I decided to go with the normal windowed version since I can always order a side panel directly from Silverstone if I decide to change it up.
What fan controllers do you guys use, Aerocool?

 

[mkenyon]

Lamptron and BitFenix. Go with something that has ~30W per channel.

 

[Salsa]

having a gtx 560ti twin frozr with a broken fan (guess I could fix it with a new heatsink), and a 26 inch 1360x768 (8ms, 60hz) native res monitor, what would you guys do:

• Get a 27 inch 1080p, 2ms, possibly 120hz (still need to confirm if the one I saw is the 60 or 120 model) monitor

or

• Get a gtx670 FTW
  

 

[evilpigking]

I think I might need to RMA my 670 windforce =/ The fans make a really loud rattle under load but the screws are all tight.

 

[AndyD]

What size SSD do you have? A lot of tweaks are just to save space on smaller drives. Otherwise the main thing is just making sure you're in AHCI mode. There aren't any truly necessary changes from within Windows.

128GB. I have a separate drive for docs and games and everything else. I think AHCI is on in the bios, I need to check. What is it exactly?

Also, is SSD ok with sleep modes, sleep vs. hibernate? And should I let Windows take care of the page file, or reduce it to 1-2GB to keep most stuff in RAM?

 

[t-ramp]

128GB. I have a separate drive for docs and games and everything else. I think AHCI is on in the bios, I need to check. What is it exactly?

Also, is SSD ok with sleep modes, sleep vs. hibernate? And should I let Windows take care of the page file, or reduce it to 1-2GB to keep most stuff in RAM?

I don't use hibernate, but either should work. You can leave the page file alone or modify it, but if you aren't trying to save space I don't think reducing it would help anything.

 

[mkenyon]

having a gtx 560ti twin frozr with a broken fan (guess I could fix it with a new heatsink), and a 26 inch 1360x768 (8ms, 60hz) native res monitor, what would you guys do:

• Get a 27 inch 1080p, 2ms, possibly 120hz (still need to confirm if the one I saw is the 60 or 120 model) monitor

or

• Get a gtx670 FTW
  

Not sure I get the 'or' listed.

 

[Xdrive05]

having a gtx 560ti twin frozr with a broken fan (guess I could fix it with a new heatsink), and a 26 inch 1360x768 (8ms, 60hz) native res monitor, what would you guys do:

• Get a 27 inch 1080p, 2ms, possibly 120hz (still need to confirm if the one I saw is the 60 or 120 model) monitor

or

• Get a gtx670 FTW
  

I'm sticking with my 560ti because I have a 1680x1050 monitor (don't really need more juice atm), but I wouldn't want to run it on a 1080p 120hz unless I had to. So I'd say do the 670 and then do the monitor as soon as you can.

Also, you can probably fix that broken fan for cheap/easy and sell your 560ti for $150 or thereabouts.

 

[Salsa]

Not sure I get the 'or' listed.

well, wich first lol

if I get either im gonna be stuck with the other thing for a long while, unemployed atm

Also, you can probably fix that broken fan for cheap/easy and sell your 560ti for $150 or thereabouts.

contacted NVIDIA about a replacement since the card is on guarantee but no dice (im in south america so I can only insist through email).

think I just need a whole new heatsink :/ the reason I havent fixed it yet is just cause im considering the gtx670


and yeah im worried about it's performance on a 1080p res. I dont get paid for this last job till a week or so from now so I have some time to think on it

edit: oh, worth noting (although ive been explicit about it ever since I posted in this thread), im talking latin american prices here, hence why im making such a big deal about the decision.

Im talking 800 bucks for the monitor or the card here, shit be tough

 

[kennah]

Get the monitor. Video card prices will go down while monitors stay pretty steady and you are more likely to have it for years and years.

 

[Xdrive05]

Get the monitor. Video card prices will go down while monitors stay pretty steady and you are more likely to have it for years and years.

Actually that's a really good point. Salsa, can you "make it" on one fan for you 560 until you can easily spring fora new 670? You may have to stick to stock speeds, etc. That's more financially sensible given what kennah pointed out.

 

[mkenyon]

Just get a replacement fan from MSI. Easy peasy.

 

[Salsa]

Just get a replacement fan from MSI. Easy peasy.

dont know why I said I contacted Nvidia, meant MSI, brain fart. Sent several emails and got no response, this was some months ago.

Actually that's a really good point. Salsa, can you "make it" on one fan for you 560 until you can easily spring fora new 670? You may have to stick to stock speeds, etc. That's more financially sensible given what kennah pointed out.

not sure if I could make it with one fan. Im still using both but one is clearly broken and doing a god awful loud sound (better if I have the whole case tilted, wich is what I do).

Might go for monitor + new heatsink. As for what is this $800 monitor im talking about, it'd be the Samsung 27A950:

I know that some Gaffers have one or two of them and recommend them. I know it's insane to spend that kind of money on a monitor but honestly it's mostly just the insane prices we get around here all around. It also looks like something that would definetly be my dedicated monitor for quite some time.

the website doesnt specify if this is the 120hz or 60hz model though, i'll probably rely on that as to wether I should get it or not.

 

[Jzero]

dont know why I said I contacted Nvidia, meant MSI, brain fart. Sent several emails and got no response, this was some months ago.


not sure if I could make it with one fan. Im still using both but one is clearly broken and doing a god awful loud sound (better if I have the whole case tilted, wich is what I do).

Might go for monitor + new heatsink. As for what is this $800 monitor im talking about, it'd be the Samsung 27A950:

http://www.exportprive.com/images/Image/Samsung/Samsung_SyncMaster_T27A950.jpg[/ig]

I know that some Gaffers have one or two of them and recommend them. I know it's insane to spend that kind of money on a monitor but honestly it's mostly just the insane prices we get around here all around. It also looks like something that would definetly be my dedicated monitor for quite some time.

the website doesnt specify if this is the 120hz or 60hz model though, i'll probably rely on that as to wether I should get it or not.[/quote]
That's a sexy monitor.

 

[Hero_of_the_Day]

What's the best free boootable hard drive scanner? There is something bad going on with my computer. Ready to start smashing shit. Don't know if it's my drive or what, but my windows install has corrupted twice in the last couple days. Working fine one night, turn it on the next morning and stuck in windows repair loop.

 

[mkenyon]

dont know why I said I contacted Nvidia, meant MSI, brain fart. Sent several emails and got no response, this was some months ago.




not sure if I could make it with one fan. Im still using both but one is clearly broken and doing a god awful loud sound (better if I have the whole case tilted, wich is what I do).

Might go for monitor + new heatsink. As for what is this $800 monitor im talking about, it'd be the Samsung 27A950:

I know that some Gaffers have one or two of them and recommend them. I know it's insane to spend that kind of money on a monitor but honestly it's mostly just the insane prices we get around here all around. It also looks like something that would definetly be my dedicated monitor for quite some time.

the website doesnt specify if this is the 120hz or 60hz model though, i'll probably rely on that as to wether I should get it or not.

Dont like 27" 1080P monitors, but it is 120hz though. Check one out in person before you buy. I think the S23A750D is a way better choice. Only works through displayport though.

As far as MSI goes, submit a ticket instead of sending an email.

 

[Jzero]

What's the best free boootable hard drive scanner? There is something bad going on with my computer. Ready to start smashing shit. Don't know if it's my drive or what, but my windows install has corrupted twice in the last couple days. Working fine one night, turn it on the next morning and stuck in windows repair loop.

The one i use is MHDD

There is also Seatools

 

[Hero_of_the_Day]

The one i use is MHDD

There is also Seatools

Thanks. Burning now. Already ran some scans in my brothers computer in windows and everything seemed find. Wanted to try a bootable one in hopes it's a little more hardcore. I don't know what the fuck is going on really. iastor.sys has been the culprit both times, and I've found a good amount of people have similar problems online. Spending an entire day setting up windows again and everything just to have the same thing happen again a day later fucking sucks.

EDIT: I tried Seatools earlier today, and it said no hard drives found. My bios sees it just fine, correct size and everything. I can plug it into another computer and access all the files just fine also.

 

[·feist·]

Samsung SSD 840 & SSD 840 Pro Series

Samsung Unveils New 840 SSD Series
http://www.sec.co.kr

Seoul (Korea Newswire) September 24, 2012 11:21 AM -- Samsung Electronics Co., Ltd., the world leader in advanced memory technology, today announced its new lineup of high-performance SSDs designed for use in personal computers. The new series supporting SATA 6.0 gigabit-per-second (Gb/s) interface comes in two tracks; one for general computing purposes and another, an advanced lineup dubbed ‘PRO’ for serious users.

Samsung’s tiered offering for professional and general user environments provides consumers a broader choice of SSDs to best suit their personal requirements.

The unrivaled performance of Samsung’s SSDs lies in its MDX controller, which delivers superior performance, high reliability and sustainability that are among the product’s proprietary features. The premium class 840 PRO provides 100,000 input/ output per second (IOPS) for random read and 90,000 IOPS for random write*. Benchmark test** on the overall system performance unveiled a three-fold advancement when applying the 840 PRO in place of a conventional hard disk drive.

Mr. UnSoo Kim, vice president of Memory brand product marketing team, Samsung Electronics, said, “Introduction of Samsung’s 840 SSD series delivers considerable levels of advancements to the notebook user environment. As a technology pioneer, Samsung continues to raise the level of performance of SSDs and contribute to the growing global pool of users enjoying the conveniences of high-performance SSDs.”


The new 840 series will be available globally from mid October through retail channels.


* Performance figure are based on test results on IOMeter 2010.
** Benchmark test based on PC Mark 7 Score test.

 

[Razek]

Hey guys. I have an i5 2500(non K) and a 6950-1gb. If I want to upgrade in the future, would swapping the graphics card alone give me a substantial enough performance increase to keep up with next gen. games or am I going to have to replace the CPU too?

 

[Hero_of_the_Day]

Hey guys. I have an i5 2500(non K) and a 6950-1gb. If I want to upgrade in the future, would swapping the graphics card alone give me a substantial enough performance increase to keep up with next gen. games or am I going to have to replace the CPU too?

No real way to answer this since we don't know what we're even aiming for and what options there will be for CPU's and GPU's at that time. I would think the 1GB on the card may be a problem "next gen" but who knows.

You have a great system. Don't even worry about upgrading for now. We'll see how next-gen consoles effect PC when we get there.

 

[Razek]

No real way to answer this since we don't know what we're even aiming for and what options there will be for CPU's and GPU's at that time. I would think the 1GB on the card may be a problem "next gen" but who knows.

You have a great system. Don't even worry about upgrading for now. We'll see how next-gen consoles effect PC when we get there.

I'm just worried my non overclocked 2500 is gonna burn me in the end.

 

[Xdrive05]

Hey guys. I have an i5 2500(non K) and a 6950-1gb. If I want to upgrade in the future, would swapping the graphics card alone give me a substantial enough performance increase to keep up with next gen. games or am I going to have to replace the CPU too?

Way too early to say for sure, but for what it's worth I believe the current scuttlebutt is PS4 will be a quad core Bulldozer-based CPU while Durango will be some kind of 8-core Intel CPU that's low-TDP per core. I could be way off. Haven't followed it in a while.

Bottom line is current Intel "Bridge" CPU's are probably faster than what the consoles will have, or at least on-part with them. N-threading could make a big difference though, if the Durango 8-core turns out to be true. UE4 is an N-threaded engine, for instance. So it will be able to take advantage of more than 4 threads. Don't really know what that will mean vs a good 4-core CPU like yours though. It could just mean those AMD 6-8 core Bulldozers will be able to keep up with i5's in UE4 games.

If that happens (8 threads becoming important), then you can probably pick up an i7 for your socket on the cheap in a couple years when we'll know for sure.

 

[Razek]

Way too early to say for sure, but for what it's worth I believe the current scuttlebutt is PS4 will be a quad core Bulldozer-based CPU while Durango will be some kind of 8-core Intel CPU that's low-TDP per core. I could be way off. Haven't followed it in a while.

Bottom line is current Intel "Bridge" CPU's are probably faster than what the consoles will have, or at least on-part with them. N-threading could make a big difference though, if the Durango 8-core turns out to be true. UE4 is an N-threaded engine, for instance. So it will be able to take advantage of more than 4 threads. Don't really know what that will mean vs a good 4-core CPU like yours though. It could just mean those AMD 6-8 core Bulldozers will be able to keep up with i5's in UE4 games.

If that happens (8 threads becoming important), then you can probably pick up an i7 for your socket on the cheap in a couple years when we'll know for sure.

Sounds fair enough. I can't assume the consoles will be as powerful as my system, but I worry with the overhead and optimization issues we've been getting this gen.

 

[Hero_of_the_Day]

I'm just worried my non overclocked 2500 is gonna burn me in the end.

Doubt it. You should have bought the K, but I think when you reach the point you need to replace your 2500, all of us with 2500ks will be right there with you.

 

[Razek]

Doubt it. You should have bought the K, but I think when you reach the point you need to replace your 2500, all of us with 2500ks will be right there with you.

Haha, I know. I didn't want to buy the cooler with it but the extra 40 bucks for both would have been worth it I feel. I might have been able to run physX in borderlands 2 then

 

[Salsa]

Dont like 27" 1080P monitors

why? too big for that res?

 

[Dark Octave]

Way too early to say for sure, but for what it's worth I believe the current scuttlebutt is PS4 will be a quad core Bulldozer-based CPU while Durango will be some kind of 8-core Intel CPU that's low-TDP per core. I could be way off. Haven't followed it in a while.

Bottom line is current Intel "Bridge" CPU's are probably faster than what the consoles will have, or at least on-part with them. N-threading could make a big difference though, if the Durango 8-core turns out to be true. UE4 is an N-threaded engine, for instance. So it will be able to take advantage of more than 4 threads. Don't really know what that will mean vs a good 4-core CPU like yours though. It could just mean those AMD 6-8 core Bulldozers will be able to keep up with i5's in UE4 games.

If that happens (8 threads becoming important), then you can probably pick up an i7 for your socket on the cheap in a couple years when we'll know for sure.

I have an i7, so you're saying that there is a good chance that I'm next gen ready?