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"I need a New PC!" 2013 Part 1. Haswell, Crysis 3, and secret fairy sauce. Read da OP

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cackhyena

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Asked this in the previous thread, but don't think I got an answer. My 670 doesn't seem to be sticking with the latest updated driver. I go to check for new drivers and it's always the same one it will accept, as if I didn't just download and install it. Is there something I can do to correct this?
 

Mulligan

Banned
Do we know (approx) when nvidia will be launching their new cards? I'm wanting to upgrade my rig soon in preparation for Crysis 3 - and my 560Ti is really beginning to show its age in Far Cry 3. I'm considering the GTX680, but I'd like to be able to run games released this year (and hopefully early next year) at 1080p/60fps. I can't stand anything below 54-60.

My current specs if curious: [email protected] 16GB RAM, 480GB SSD, 560Ti 1GB VRAM

A 680 will be able to handle that perferctly well.
 

mkenyon

Banned
Asked this in the previous thread, but don't think I got an answer. My 670 doesn't seem to be sticking with the latest updated driver. I go to check for new drivers and it's always the same one it will accept, as if I didn't just download and install it. Is there something I can do to correct this?
1) Manually download the drivers. Don't touch them yet though.

2) Delete the entire folder of C:\NVIDIA\

3) Go into Add/Remove Programs and remove everything that says NVIDIA.

4) Restart computer.

5) Install newest drivers.
 

commissar

Member
Having lost a stick of memory to corruption and the death of my video card fan, I suspect I'll be using this thread in the coming months.

I appreciate the work you guys put in :D
 

cackhyena

Member
1) Manually download the drivers. Don't touch them yet though.

2) Delete the entire folder of C:NVIDIA

3) Go into Add/Remove Programs and remove everything that says NVIDIA.

4) Restart computer.

5) Install newest drivers.
Thank you, sir. You say drivers, so I'm assuming I'm looking for more than one?
 

mkenyon

Banned
IT HAS BEGUN! Yay. 2013 thread finally.

I know this is stupid question..but wait for Haswell or build now?
So hard to say. I don't think you can go wrong building now. If you are intent on OC'ing to high heaven in the 4.6-5.0 range, it might be worth waiting for.
Thank you, sir. You say drivers, so I'm assuming I'm looking for more than one?
They're all packaged into a single download.
 

cackhyena

Member
So I did all the steps and even checking in apps/programs, it says the newest version is in there for my 675. OC GURU on the other hand is still saying it's an update behind. I wouldn't even care if it didn't affect XCOM. I literally can't play the game in the state it's in. It takes a good 10 second to get the mouse from one end of the screen to the other...at the title screen.

Only that game. But if I reinstall this newest driver again, it'll let me play, lag free till I turn it off. One time. So lost here.
 
Nice work on the OP! Pretty much everything you need right there.

I haven't really been keeping up with things for the last year or so, but I'm planning to do a CPU/MB/GPU upgrade around the time that Haswell hits. Maybe get a nicer case, too.
 

NoRéN

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1) Manually download the drivers. Don't touch them yet though.

2) Delete the entire folder of C:\NVIDIA\

3) Go into Add/Remove Programs and remove everything that says NVIDIA.

4) Restart computer.

5) Install newest drivers.

This right here should be in the OP. At least until all the companies include a way to install drivers that automatically removes all previous drivers.

By the way, very nice OP!
 

Sarcasm

Member
W7 64 bit
I7 3770K
GTX670
8GB

I have restarted and cleaned but if I start any game now (its plays fine) I get stupid low memory. I look @ my task manager and system memory is 83% is use. What is happening?
 

Akai__

Member
W7 64 bit
I7 3770K
GTX670
8GB

I have restarted and cleaned but if I start any game now (its plays fine) I get stupid low memory. I look @ my task manager and system memory is 83% is use. What is happening?

And Windows is really showing you 8GB's?
What happens, if you have nothing opened?

I would also suggesting switching the RAM sticks into other slots, if possible. Maybe there is something wrong with those?

I'm not a specialist, when it comes to questions, like this, but I hope it helps. :/
 

mkenyon

Banned
So I did all the steps and even checking in apps/programs, it says the newest version is in there for my 675. OC GURU on the other hand is still saying it's an update behind. I wouldn't even care if it didn't affect XCOM. I literally can't play the game in the state it's in. It takes a good 10 second to get the mouse from one end of the screen to the other...at the title screen.

Only that game. But if I reinstall this newest driver again, it'll let me play, lag free till I turn it off. One time. So lost here.
Are you having some automated program doing the installation?
 

DTKT

Member
Buying RAM is a really slippery road. I just bought 4GB to get up to 8GB and I'm already considering replacing the 4 sticks with 4 8GB sticks.

Because I really need to have 15 VMs running.
 

Infinity

Member
Thanks for the thread, OP!

What a year we have in store - all us first-gen i7 (920, etc) owners will finally benefit from a Haswell upgrade. That, and maybe a Nvidia 7 series release.
 

Sarcasm

Member
And Windows is really showing you 8GB's?
What happens, if you have nothing opened?

I would also suggesting switching the RAM sticks into other slots, if possible. Maybe there is something wrong with those?

I'm not a specialist, when it comes to questions, like this, but I hope it helps. :/

Yeah..with no games and browser open and vlc - 60% usage.
 

LiquidMetal14

hide your water-based mammals
Worst case scenario, one of the dimms is dead. Try switching your RAM to different sockets or flip them from their current socket in exchange for each other (if you have 2).
 

cackhyena

Member
Are you having some automated program doing the installation?
Nope. Manually installed the latest drivers like you said. It's so fucking odd. Keeps going back and forth in performance. After I posted that, I booted up XCOM yet again and it was buttery smooth. Makes no sense, especially with a game that isn't very graphics intensive. I have Far Cry 3 running really well nearly maxed with no hiccups.
 

Akai__

Member
Yeah..with no games and browser open and vlc - 60% usage.

Are you using Firefox? If so, are you using your memory cache or your disk cache? Could be a never ending loop, which is causing your RAM being used that much.

Someone correct me, if I'm absolutely wrong with this.
 
But in windows you can have multiple monitors with different resolutions. I can for example extend my 1080p PC's monitor to my shitty 720p TV when I want to watch something.

Yes you can. My primary monitor is a 1920x1080 resolution and my secondary is a 1680x1050 monitor. I game on the primary in borderless windowed mode (1920x1080) and my second monitor has webpages, music, monitor software, etc up. In windows it works just fine as well. I use the extended desktop.

Exactly what I was asking about, thanks for the replies.
 

herod

Member
not quite part of the OP's concern but any opinions on the quietest keyboard for typing? I have my PC in the lounge and my wife comments on how loud my typing is on my logitech K120, which I think is reasonably quiet, however I realise it could be better.
 

Fuu

Formerly Alaluef (not Aladuf)
Been planning to build a rig for a long time now and today I ordered all the parts with the help of the guides here, so I wanted to post my thanks for all the good work put into this and the previous threads!
 

DietRob

i've been begging for over 5 years.
I'm getting closer.

Here's what I got so far:

i5 3570k
P8Z77-V LK
Hydro Series H60 High Performance Liquid CPU Cooler
840 Series Samsung 120GB Internal Solid State Drive
8gb 1600 Ram


I still need to decide if I want to use the case I already have or get another one and then finally decide on a video card. I'm dragging my feet on the video card decision for now. I'm hoping to be able to hold out for the "Titian" release so that the 7950 price might drive down a little more. However, I'm starting to think that 299.99 - 320.00 is the best I'm going to be able to do for a while on a 7950.

There is nothing quite like getting all the parts together for a new rig. I love this feeling and wish I didn't have to wait every 4 years to do it.
 
I'm getting closer.

Here's what I got so far:

i5 3570k
P8Z77-V LK
Hydro Series H60 High Performance Liquid CPU Cooler
840 Series Samsung 120GB Internal Solid State Drive
8gb 1600 Ram


I still need to decide if I want to use the case I already have or get another one and then finally decide on a video card. I'm dragging my feet on the video card decision for now. I'm hoping to be able to hold out for the "Titian" release so that the 7950 price might drive down a little more. However, I'm starting to think that 299.99 - 320.00 is the best I'm going to be able to do for a while on a 7950.

There is nothing quite like getting all the parts together for a new rig. I love this feeling and wish I didn't have to wait every 4 years to do it.

I would consider an alternate ssd. The general consensus is that the 840 isn't the best choice due to its use of TLC nand. Generally the Crucial m4, Samsung 830, and the Samsung 840 pro tend to be the ones recommended here. I am using the 840 pro and it has been fantastic.
 

LiquidMetal14

hide your water-based mammals
I would consider an alternate ssd. The general consensus is that the 840 isn't the best choice due to its use of TLC nand. Generally the Crucial m4, Samsung 830, and the Samsung 840 pro tend to be the ones recommended here. I am using the 840 pro and it has been fantastic.

The OCZ Vertex 4 gets my personal vote. All current models ship with FW 1.5 and above so no issues at all with that Indilinx controller.

As far as a case for the young man, I STRONGLY recommend the Corsair 500R. I'm surprised it's not in the OP. I just received it 2 days ago. Winner all the way around. Best case I've ever seen bar none. Not that that some of the more expensive ones can't do better but it's a super nice case that can support big GPU's in case you have one with aftermarket heatsinks and has plenty of fan spots and bays. That case has a 10% off coupon on top of the sale as well so it brings it to 107 shipped. 20 dollar rebate as well.

On a side note, I was looking at the CM Storm Xornet mouse in the OP. I'm going to go out on a limb and say this would destroy my current wireless Logitech M305 correct?
 

mkenyon

Banned
not quite part of the OP's concern but any opinions on the quietest keyboard for typing? I have my PC in the lounge and my wife comments on how loud my typing is on my logitech K120, which I think is reasonably quiet, however I realise it could be better.
You want scissor switches. The arctosa and K750 in the OP both have those.
 

LiquidMetal14

hide your water-based mammals
You want scissor switches. The arctosa and K750 in the OP both have those.

Owned the K750 for a while now - Sleek, elegant design almost reminiscent of a Mac product (which they make a MAC alternate FYI). Never have to charge it due to it's solar power. Super responsive keys. Just make sure you give it some light here and there. Don't leave it in a dark area for weeks at a time. Think of it like watering a plant but far less often. Best KB I've ever owned.
 

DietRob

i've been begging for over 5 years.
I would consider an alternate ssd. The general consensus is that the 840 isn't the best choice due to its use of TLC nand. Generally the Crucial m4, Samsung 830, and the Samsung 840 pro tend to be the ones recommended here. I am using the 840 pro and it has been fantastic.

Hmm.. thanks for the feedback. I have generally had good experiences with Samsung electronics so I didn't think that the SSD I selected would be frowned upon. There was a 64gb Samsung 830 there. Perhaps I will go trade this 840 for that.

My idea is to only use the SSD for my OS and a game or two so 64gb should be plenty for that right?


The OCZ Vertex 4 gets my personal vote. All current models ship with FW 1.5 and above so no issues at all with that Indilinx controller.

As far as a case for the young man, I STRONGLY recommend the Corsair 500R. I'm surprised it's not in the OP. I just received it 2 days ago. Winner all the way around. Best case I've ever seen bar none. Not that that some of the more expensive ones can't do better but it's a super nice case that can support big GPU's in case you have one with aftermarket heatsinks and has plenty of fan spots and bays. That case has a 10% off coupon on top of the sale as well so it brings it to 107 shipped. 20 dollar rebate as well.

You flatter me. I'm a grown ass man, dog. I ain't fixin to have lights on my PC. /Cedric

Seriously though I don't want a case with glowing LED's I've been looking for something sleek and clean. Any suggestions?

Also any suggestions on the right timing for buying a 3gb 7950?
 

LiquidMetal14

hide your water-based mammals
Hmm.. thanks for the feedback. I have generally had good experiences with Samsung electronics so I didn't think that the SSD I selected would be frowned upon. There was a 64gb Samsung 830 there. Perhaps I will go trade this 840 for that.

My idea is to only use the SSD for my OS and a game or two so 64gb should be plenty for that right?




You flatter me. I'm a grown ass man, dog. I ain't fixin to have lights on my PC. /Cedric

Seriously though I don't want a case with glowing LED's I've been looking for something sleek and clean. Any suggestions?

Also any suggestions on the right timing for buying a 3gb 7950?

Corsair 650D

On the 7950, it's fairly cheap right now. Twin Frozr III cooling. Nothing to be ashamed of.
 
Back again with the mechanical keyboard madness.

So, originally I was going to go with the Rosewill Cherry Red Mx board, but that and the CM Quickfire Rapid seem to have some weird quality issues going on (USB cords and keys failing). What do people think about various other Cherry Red keyboards, specifically:

Corsair Vengeance K60/K90
Gigabyte Aivia Osmium
SteelSeries 6Gv2

Any others I should take a look at that are ~$100 or below?
 

Koroviev

Member
Hmm.. thanks for the feedback. I have generally had good experiences with Samsung electronics so I didn't think that the SSD I selected would be frowned upon. There was a 64gb Samsung 830 there. Perhaps I will go trade this 840 for that.

My idea is to only use the SSD for my OS and a game or two so 64gb should be plenty for that right?

Technically yes, but I would strongly recommend a larger drive. Once you've used one, you're going to want everything (i.e., all of your other commonly used programs) but your data files on it. At the very least I would get a 128gb model, although it's very nice having 250gb...
 
Matte coatings are improving fortunately, PLS monitors are perfectly fine for instance.

Unfortunately for LG, their engineers are idiots that seem to be unable to design a good quality matte coating. Their previous matte coatings are excessively thick and now their matte AH-IPS monitors have visible cross-hatching.
 
Great job on the OP.

I wonder why we don't have a general laptop thread though. I know there's the gaming one but I don't think it's suitable for talking about ultrabooks etc.
 
Back again with the mechanical keyboard madness.

So, originally I was going to go with the Rosewill Cherry Red Mx board, but that and the CM Quickfire Rapid seem to have some weird quality issues going on (USB cords and keys failing). What do people think about various other Cherry Red keyboards, specifically:

Corsair Vengeance K60/K90
Gigabyte Aivia Osmium
SteelSeries 6Gv2

Any others I should take a look at that are ~$100 or below?

Went with the Gigabyte since the entire keyboard uses mechanical keys and seemed to have more features than the SteelSeries.
 

Kadey

Mrs. Harvey
Any word on the latest Intels? Looking to upgrade fully this year. I upgrade my main PC once every year or two. I pretty much have everything in mind except for CPU and GPU. Would like to see what's in store for this year.
 
I would consider an alternate ssd. The general consensus is that the 840 isn't the best choice due to its use of TLC nand. Generally the Crucial m4, Samsung 830, and the Samsung 840 pro tend to be the ones recommended here. I am using the 840 pro and it has been fantastic.

Thanks for the heads up, I almost orderd an 840 today.
 
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