Little Mac
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No matter if it's good news or bad news, anything coming out of IGN is …
(IGN) Avowed: We Finally Played Obsidian’s Latest RPG and It’s Fantastic
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Here let me be real…console type disregarded. The game looks like complete ass. It strikes me as boring, and will have terrible performance. No depth, no excitement pre-release, and no impact on anyone outside of your type. I hate it, but the game is being sent out to die in the wasteland of happy bunnies and winning lottery tickets 100% of the time that you've created in your head. You legitimately used to have good conversations about exclusives and the other consoles in the landscape, but to just "shut the door.gif" and not even have any kind of argument leads me to believe you are now a full blown warrior. Good luck lasting through the holidays on here. I won't bother you again with a response or reaction to your posts, because I wouldn't want to be "wrong" and disregarded. Good luck with your one or two 6.0-7.0 games exclusive to your console of choice, and please…please don't shed a tear when Forza, Halo, and Starfield go to "someone else's console". It will be okay, I promise. Bye
Disclaimer - I went to this extent with my response because all you had to reply with was a disrespectful gif. Good talk through.
clarky
Gold Member
Never ever believe any first impression article's. Rule number one especially when MS are involved.Yes, but as @Topher said, previews are not usually to be believed because of their curated nature. Even Redfall had positive first impressions:
IGN:
Arstechnica:
PCGames:
Worse than twitter impressions for movies.
SportsFan581
Member
I don't mind the art style at all, in fact, I think they can be more imaginative with a look like this.
clarky
Gold Member
Agreed, but check out Dagwaphics mate they suck
Bumblebeetuna
Member
Now that the warriors have left for the negative Avowed 30FPS thread, let me say I watched some of the previews in here and it looks good. Great, even? Not sure where all of this "looks dated" nonsense is coming from. It's made even funnier by the fact that those same people claiming it's dated are also begging Sony to release an upgraded PS5 so they can play all of these same "dated" games just at a nicer resolution.
Combat looks much improved from the June showcase, not that it looked horrible then either. I wonder how many moves you'll have with these characters and how different they'll play based on the weapons you're carrying. The first video had a lot of different attacks, even for the mage.
Maybe I missed it but there doesn't seem to be any gore? Makes some of it look a little weird.
30 is not ideal. I'll probably do like I ended up doing for Redfall, playing mostly on PC.
Combat looks much improved from the June showcase, not that it looked horrible then either. I wonder how many moves you'll have with these characters and how different they'll play based on the weapons you're carrying. The first video had a lot of different attacks, even for the mage.
Maybe I missed it but there doesn't seem to be any gore? Makes some of it look a little weird.
30 is not ideal. I'll probably do like I ended up doing for Redfall, playing mostly on PC.
Heisenberg007
Gold Journalism
Not just Microsoft, I'd say. Applies to almost all companies out there.
Hands-on previews in a controlled environment rarely depict the true state of the game.
The pedigree and recent past of the studio as well as how the game looks and feels like in videos are, of course, important factors as well. But I'm usually cautious when it comes to previews by "journalists" who get invited for special screenings.
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SportsFan581
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Bumblebeetuna
I'm surprised there is this much warring about it, clearly the "war" is over at this point. Old habits die hard I guess, LOL. I'm always less concerned about the realism in graphics than I am how interesting and varied the environments look in these fantasy RPGs. I'm not familiar with the lore of this at all, but it seems like there are going to be a lot of different biomes to explore.
Heisenberg007
Gold Journalism
Just watched the video. Horrible, horrible statement.
30 FPS is bad as is, but these statements, "you don't need 60 FPS"
Previews basically give the game the benefit of the doubt that the whole campaign is going to execute on its objectives, based on a small slice of gameplay. If Redfall hadn't come out severely under baked and full to the brim with bugs and technical issues, it might have been able to live up to the articles you highlighted. To me the point of previews is to figure out what the game is trying to do, not whether it will be ultimately successful. And in this case the main message seems to be that Avowed is aiming to capture the complexity of Pillars in first/third person. I think that's a decently compelling elevator pitch.
Punished Miku
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We'll see. Keep in mind they're making the PoE games similarly to the Elder Scrolls in that each game is inhabiting a specific large region.
Roman Empire
Member
Previews became worthless. It is just another round of applause for the devs of what could be a very middling experience. Wait for the release and get reviews from who you trust, be it some smaller channel/streamer or person from here in the forum. I'm curious about avowed but I'm not holding my breath.
clarky
Gold Member
Just watched the video. Horrible, horrible statement.
30 FPS is bad as is, but these statements, "you don't need 60 FPS"
Yeah agreed.
Starfield and Redfall vibes all over again. All this says to me is this isnt going to be ready for release either if they are already making excuses that there wont be a performance mode in for launch
MS will never learn.
Indy will be the next unfinished rush release with that Dec 9th date, book it. You couldn't cut the '25 window any closer if you tried.
God knows whats going on with xbox these days. Shame I used to really like the OG xbox/360, long gone now unfortunately.
Heisenberg007
Gold Journalism
Yep. I bought an Xbox 360 over PS3 back in the day, because Xbox was kicking ass at that time. How badly they have keep screwed things up since then.
cash_longfellow
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Nobody was even talking to you. Go somewhere else trying to stir something up that was already discussed and over with.
FalsettoVibe
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This preview has re-ignited my interest a bit. Be nice if it releases for PS5 as well.
mayham2199
Member
I really liked OW on the first planet. It seriously fell off after that not sure why I just lost so much interest in the game after that.
Nickolaidas
Banned
No need.
It doesn't matter what they pitched, or what they, as developers, want to do. What matters is what the publisher wants them to do. NRS can want to make any game they like - if WB tells them they are making Mortal Kombat 2, 3 and 4 in a row, that's exactly what they are going to do. And telling Obsidian to go forward with their pitch to make a Skyrim-esque game when they (MS) have the real thing seems like a waste of resources to me, when their IP began (and continued) as a homage to the original Baldur's Gate games.
clarky
Gold Member
Your not listening, this is the game obsidian wanted to make.
You're saying its MS' fault for bailing them out financially and letting them make the game they wanted to make instead of bailing them out and getting them to make a game they didn't?
What exactly would you like to see from them?
You're just straight up pulling shit out of your arse.
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Evil Calvin
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...but is it fun?
Nickolaidas
Banned
No, YOU are the one who isn't listening. Again, the publisher decides whether they will allow Obsidian to go along with their pitch. It's up to MS to tell Obsidian to go nuts or make the game MS think it would be better to see Obsidian make.
Obsidian wanted to make a Skyrim-esque game. Cool.
Microsoft already HAS the REAL deal. Instead of buying a dev who makes Baldur's Gate games (which are proven to be decent at the LEAST), they gave Obsidian years to make a game in a genre they were never tested in making (a Skyrim clone), while MS already HAS Skyrim, and ES6 in the oven.
It's like me buying Capcom (and the Resident Evil IP by extension), and I also buy Larian, and instead of telling Larian to make Divinity Original Sin 3, Sven comes in and tells me he wants to make a survival horror game with a shoulder-view cam with zombies and mutated animals. And I tell him, 'yeah, ok'. ..... why? I already have Resident fucking Evil.
clarky
Gold Member
Not really is it. Obsidian make RPG's and guess what they are making an RPG.
MS let them "go nuts" and make the game they wanted. Its a First person POE. Its one of the reasons MS purchased them in the first place.
Ill ask again, what do you think they should be doing?
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Nickolaidas
Banned
PoE3.
clarky
Gold Member
Well you get the next best thing, POE but in first person.
As to your comment that they have no experience in First person games, Grounded, Outerworlds and Fallout NV would beg to differ.
Is Avowed actually a Skyrim-clone though? From what we've been told it's a zone based RPG, that's taking Pillars' focus on dialogue and combat. So it seems fairer to describe it as PoE in first/third person.
clarky
Gold Member
No its nothing like Skyrim by the looks of things except it that posters head.
Strange that hes asking for POE3 but doesn't want to give this game set in the same universe a fair crack.
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Didn't they play this on the Gamescom floor?
Please, learn to settle down and read.
Avowed started off around 2018, even before the acquisition. It was initially conceptualized as a Skyrim level title. Obsidian themselves decided to scale down some years ago, post acquisition.
See why it doesn't make sense for you to claim the publisher (XGS here) forced them into making a Skyrim type game when it's the same publisher that allowed them scale down the scope?
Nickolaidas
Banned
I am not saying they were forced to make Avowed as it is right now. I am saying they SHOULD have been forced to NOT make Avowed with this type of gameplay and make PoE3 instead.
Timberwolf25
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Destin stated in his preview that footage used was provided by MS and not his actual playthrough. So probably the same for all the previewers.
Nickolaidas
Banned
Gameplay mechanics remind me of Skyrim - the melee / magic / ranged combat that is.
Nickolaidas
Banned
Yes, why *would* I not want Street Fighter 7 to be a shoulder-view action game like God of War?
Lmao, please stop
You'd force them to can their new RPG IP, in favor of making a third installment of a game franchise that had subpar sales for the second installment?
I'm sorry, but your comments here show you know next to nothing about Obsidian. Including having to be reminded by
clarky
that they've made very solid first person games before.
Nickolaidas
Banned
Yeah, working on a Skyrim-lite for six years with a new engine and have it day 1 on Game Pass will make sales skyrocket instead and will definitely be a better return of investment.You'd force them to can their new RPG IP, in favor of making a third installment of a game franchise that had subpar sales for the second installment?
I'm sorry, but your comments here show you know next to nothing about Obsidian. Including having to be reminded by
Which also runs like shit, because Obsidian are apparently masters at first person games and had to lock it at 30 fps.
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Well it has first person melee combat with dual wielding and magic, so it is bound to look similar. But PoE differentiated itself with guns, a variety of different melee weapons like spears, rapiers, morning stars etc. and a full spell system. So far we have seen pistols, spears, staffs and possibly a blunderbuss. And the developers have said the grimoire will be used to allow the player access to a large number of spells. So it seems that the basic Skyrim type spells will come with your class, and the more involved spells that we would expect from a PoE sequel will be accessible through the grimoire.
Nickolaidas
Banned
I hope I'm wrong, then.
James Sawyer Ford
Member
This is hilarious. If you think Avowed looks great, or even good, your standards are comically low.
Visually it looks nowhere near current gen.
RickMasters
Member
I know I'm in the minority around here but …..
I like this game. I like the art style. I like the colourful, imaginative world, the game seems to be set in. I like what I see. I can even live with playing it at 30FPS as long as I can cross save between my PCs and my Xbox.
I just want it to be a good obsidian game. I don't care if it doesn't win GOTY awards. I just need it to be a good, solid, open world,action RPG.
I like this game. I like the art style. I like the colourful, imaginative world, the game seems to be set in. I like what I see. I can even live with playing it at 30FPS as long as I can cross save between my PCs and my Xbox.
I just want it to be a good obsidian game. I don't care if it doesn't win GOTY awards. I just need it to be a good, solid, open world,action RPG.
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digoutyoursoul
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It's Destin, that's all I need to know
Nickolaidas
Banned
Pretty safe to think you'll be satisfied. They make good narrative-based RPGs.
Bumblebeetuna
Member
Coming from the JV warrior personality on GAF, I'll take that as a compliment. Thank you.
Also, Vampire Survivors, Brotato, and Balatro don't look current gen visually and yet they shit all over anything MS or Sony has put out this generation.
Denton
Member
What the fuck did they play in those previews? Because it sure as fuck wasn't Redfall.