Indiana Jones 5 Rumors

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JGS said:
Big difference between Cameron and Spielberg is Spielberg is a for hire director whereas Cameron is interested in his own vision. Cameron is more like Lucas which would mean Cameron would eventually leave the project.:lol

They're also similar in that neither has made a decent movie since the '80s.
 
Furret said:
They're also similar in that neither has made a decent movie since the '80s.

Wow, you don't even like T2!

I know there is enough Avatar/Titanic hate to not start that up, but T2 & True Lies were awesome.
 
JGS said:
Wow, you don't even like T2!

I know there is enough Avatar/Titanic hate to not start that up, but T2 & True Lies were awesome.

Was T2 not the '80s? It must have been early '90s at least?

Either way, you're right Cameron still had the touch then. But it was clearly already much diminished by the time True Lies came around.
 
Old Lace said:
Why did the crystal skull look like a piece of plastic with tin foil in it? It was the most important prop in the movie and it looked like shit.

I think it was intentional. The whole movie (and the whole series) were homages to the films Lucas saw as a kid.

And those old films had a lot of what Indy does now.

The way Irina's hair stays perfect through the entire movie and how the special effects were intentionally made so that they don't mesh with the environment, including the art style, is also part of this.

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Synth_floyd said:
I hope they make an Indy 5. If it sucks, who cares? If it's good then sweet! As consumers, you have nothing to lose.

Spielberg isn't going to live forever. I lose years of him potentially working on something that could actually be good.
 
Shia himself was fine in Crystal Skull; it's not his fault that his character was written shittily. Shia is a good actor.

Even though Indy IV was mediocre, I'll watch this in the hopes that it won't be shitty; I love Indiana Jones too much not to watch it.
 
RT @LeDoctor The rumor about INDY 5 is completely false. Nothing has changed, we are not shooting next year and still in the research phase.
 
http://www.showbizspy.com/article/210592/shia-labeouf-indiana-jones-5-will-be-crazy.html

SHIA LaBeouf says the fifth indiana Jones movie sounds “crazy”.

The actor can’t wait to reprise his role as Indy’s son alongside Harrison Ford and has already had a sneak peek at the new adventure being planned by director Steven Spielberg.

“They’re script writing right now,” says Shia. “I got called into Steven’s office and he pitched a little bit to me and it sounds crazy, it sounds really cool.”


Fuck it. I'm in. I don't know why, but I'm in.

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I'm sure it will be much better than Skull (which I thought was OK). Just make sure the shots of Indy using the whip don't look as fucking dreadful as they did in the last one.
 
Hoping for the best. Indy 4 was decent enough. Not as good as Crusade or Raiders, but definitely better than Temple. Should just make an Indy 5 based on Fate of Atlantis.
 
sphagnum said:
Continue the B-movie theme from Indy 4 and have Nazis return from their secret base on the moon, please.
I look forward to the epic lunar rover chase. Also, Ford taking off his helmet and surviving.
 
I was fine with the Alien stuff, thought it fit perfectly with the pulp nature of the series which already had supernatural and religious themes going on. It was like something straight out of the pulp adventure dime store novel. The nuke, was fine with that as well, it was meant to be silly.

But even if I was ok with the movie, the monkey scene raped all my senses.
 
Kurtofan said:
Why am I not surprised?

I said that to draw out the haters. You underestimate me, my dear Kurtofan. After the ridicule I was getting from that UFO thread, do you I would say something like that without thought? :lol

Also, what is Spielberg's obsession with this theme of extraterrestrials when himself doesn't believe in UFO's being from outer space? A real mystery.

It is now cool to hate on Crystal Skull. The amount of lols I see in reference to this movie have convinced me it's just people trying to join a gang here, and don't want to be seen as "different" in thinking CS was a good film.
 
Lebron said:
I look forward to the epic lunar rover chase. Also, Ford taking off his helmet and surviving.

Well of course he would survive. The space Nazis terraformed the planet a long time ago, it has a perfectly breathable atmosphere and dinosaurs.
 
BattleMonkey said:
I was fine with the Alien stuff, thought it fit perfectly with the pulp nature of the series which already had supernatural and religious themes going on. It was like something straight out of the pulp adventure dime store novel. The nuke, was fine with that as well, it was meant to be silly.

But even if I was ok with the movie, the monkey scene raped all my senses.
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I'm not saying I wouldn't like to see a new Indy, because fuck it - I'm an Indy fan. It just disappoints me that Spielberg won't be doing one of the infinitely more tantalizing projects on his back burner because of this.
 
BattleMonkey said:
I was fine with the Alien stuff, thought it fit perfectly with the pulp nature of the series which already had supernatural and religious themes going on. It was like something straight out of the pulp adventure dime store novel. The nuke, was fine with that as well, it was meant to be silly.

But even if I was ok with the movie, the monkey scene raped all my senses.

It seems so many people didn't get the cues that the movie is a 1950's pulp story in the same way the original trilogy is a 30's adventure serial. Everything from the dialog, direction, VFX, simulated 50s color filmstock, lighting - EVERYTHING! In fact, I honestly found the look a bit disconcerting because it looked so much like a 50s film that had been dug up and digitally cleaned up to get rid of some of the rot and grain.

The plot of the film was perfect for what it was doing and was full of the inventiveness of the entire franchise and rich details. It was a quality Indy film from A to Z.

It is perhaps proof that you can never satisfy fans who hold something sacred like Indy. No matter what you do it will seem "wrong" to them because it is different from what they remember experiencing the first time they saw the original.
 
The part about doing it the old fashioned way instead of relying on CGI made jump a little. If they really dp it that way then I can barely contain myself! I don't even mind Shia LaBeouf at all and I liked Indy 4. I say bring it.
 
BattleMonkey said:
I was fine with the Alien stuff, thought it fit perfectly with the pulp nature of the series which already had supernatural and religious themes going on. It was like something straight out of the pulp adventure dime store novel. The nuke, was fine with that as well, it was meant to be silly.

But even if I was ok with the movie, the monkey scene raped all my senses.
Pretty much my view. The premise was fine with me and i could see what they were aiming for, but the execution of loads of it was absolutely atrocious.
 
Kaijima said:
It seems so many people didn't get the cues that the movie is a 1950's pulp story in the same way the original trilogy is a 30's adventure serial. Everything from the dialog, direction, VFX, simulated 50s color filmstock, lighting - EVERYTHING! In fact, I honestly found the look a bit disconcerting because it looked so much like a 50s film that had been dug up and digitally cleaned up to get rid of some of the rot and grain.

The plot of the film was perfect for what it was doing and was full of the inventiveness of the entire franchise and rich details. It was a quality Indy film from A to Z.

It is perhaps proof that you can never satisfy fans who hold something sacred like Indy. No matter what you do it will seem "wrong" to them because it is different from what they remember experiencing the first time they saw the original.

Yup agree and was loving the movie, then the monkeys showed up and I couldn't sleep for days.
 
Kaijima said:
It seems so many people didn't get the cues that the movie is a 1950's pulp story in the same way the original trilogy is a 30's adventure serial. Everything from the dialog, direction, VFX, simulated 50s color filmstock, lighting - EVERYTHING! In fact, I honestly found the look a bit disconcerting because it looked so much like a 50s film that had been dug up and digitally cleaned up to get rid of some of the rot and grain.

The plot of the film was perfect for what it was doing and was full of the inventiveness of the entire franchise and rich details. It was a quality Indy film from A to Z.

It is perhaps proof that you can never satisfy fans who hold something sacred like Indy. No matter what you do it will seem "wrong" to them because it is different from what they remember experiencing the first time they saw the original.

Whilst I agree that many people missed the fact that it was meant as an homage to 50s pulp, I can certainly understand that fans could be well within reason in their disappointment that Spielberg and Lucas abandoned the 30s-serial adventure structure. That 30s angle was a huge draw of the Indiana Jones series, so sticking it in the 50s simply to match Harrison's age and catering all narrative and cinematic devices around that seems like a pretty big misstep to those people. I admit that even I missed the milieu of the old trilogy.
 
Scullibundo said:
I'm not saying I wouldn't like to see a new Indy, because fuck it - I'm an Indy fan. It just disappoints me that Spielberg won't be doing one of the infinitely more tantalizing projects on his back burner because of this.

me too, but I get it:

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and if they can somehow revert it to the 30's influence then I'll be on board too.. is the Indy franchise developing its own Sonic cycle?
 
Iceman said:
me too, but I get it:

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I prefer to think of it like a Splinter Cell cycle. Every even numbered incarnation is weak, whilst the odd numbered ones are gold (though this only really applies to SC and CT).
 
Meus Renaissance said:
I said that to draw out the haters. You underestimate me, my dear Kurtofan. After the ridicule I was getting from that UFO thread, do you I would say something like that without thought? :lol

Also, what is Spielberg's obsession with this theme of extraterrestrials when himself doesn't believe in UFO's being from outer space? A real mystery.

It is now cool to hate on Crystal Skull. The amount of lols I see in reference to this movie have convinced me it's just people trying to join a gang here, and don't want to be seen as "different" in thinking CS was a good film.
It was too easy,I should have known something was off :D
I don't really hate Indy 4,I think people overestimate how bad it is.
It's the worst Indy but it's not a complete shit.
I'd say it lacked something that made Indy movies great movies.
 
Scullibundo said:
I prefer to think of it like a Splinter Cell cycle. Every even numbered incarnation is weak, whilst the odd numbered ones are gold (though this only really applies to SC and CT).
Temple of Doom is awesome, guy.
 
Kagari said:
Just let it die and pretend the fourth film didn't exist.

The fifth film won't let you ignore the fourth, though. Are they going to introduce Mutt as if he's completely new to the franchise?

Perhaps this time Indy will have dementia or Alzheimer's and Shia will have to reintroduce himself every ten minutes.

This could work: It could be all from Indy's perspective, ever failing as an octogenarian.. we could have a Memento-like story structure merged with globe-trotting action adventure.
 
Scullibundo said:
I prefer to think of it like a Splinter Cell cycle. Every even numbered incarnation is weak, whilst the odd numbered ones are gold (though this only really applies to SC and CT).

That implies The Last Crusade is superior to The Temple of Doom. That's a very big hole in that theory.
 
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