feynoob
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2017 game selling 1m in its first year, with mostly being co-op game is huge.
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Jez Cordon: Sea of Thieves has sold over 1m copies on PlayStation
Killjoy-NL
Gold Member
Doesn't matter when it was released, it's new to the Playstation audience and is the first 'big' Xbox title to ever release on Playstation, at a low price.
1M is kinda meh.
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it’s a port of a 6 year old game. Over $40m in revenue, with port costs not likely to exceed $5m. Those are very solid margins. And it’s just been 4 months since release.
It’s very noteworthy. Way more than ‘decent’.
DenchDeckard
Moderated wildly
So you are saying that Sea of Thieves isn't a monster hit?
Keep making up your own rules to make yourself feel better. I stick by my comments that this will end up between 3 and 4 million sold on Playstation. Thats a lot of money for both Sony and Microsoft. and huge hit for a game coming out years upon years later.
feynoob
Banned
It kind matters. PC/Xbox/PS users overlap with each other. Chances us are alot of PS users have bought the game on other systems.
And 1m sales on platform is not meh. For a co-op game, that is alot. Console fight have deteriorated some people's perception of success.
Klayzer
Member
It's funny, Xbox fans were downplaying Stellar and Rebirth sales. Now 1 mil is somehow a monster hit. You guys flip flop all over the place.
Heisenberg007
Gold Journalism
Helldivers 2 was also $40 and has already been out for 6 months.
Why not compare with that?
Killjoy-NL
Gold Member
As I replied above, it's new to Playstation and of the first 'big' Xbox titles to ever release on Playstation, for cheap.
So 1M isn't that noteworthy, really.
Not on PS5, it isn't. Which is what you claimed.
'Huge'. It's decent at best. Which isn't bad, but just that: decent.
That overlap is a tiny minority. Most people played on just one system. Get real.
And I already said that most people who bought it on Playstation are probably former Xbox fans, so in a way it's like preaching to the choir.
There is no console fight anymore, so that's not a good argument.
This is the reality of most people on Playstation not caring about Xbox games, which is a large part of the reason that Xbox is dying and needs to go 3rd party to begin with.
Heisenberg007
Gold Journalism
We are talking about worldwide sales or US-only sales? Both games sold 1 million copies WW. Neither outsold the other.It’s had solid interest on every platform it’s ever been on, so it’s puzzling you’re insinuating PS owners are the exception.
…it’s outsold Stellar Blade in the U.S.
1 million units in a few months for a 6 year old port…isn’t ‘successful’?
Late ports don’t always sell this quick, and this well. Horizon Forbidden West for example was released on PC and has about a third of these sales.
Sea of Thieves sold 1 million copies at $40. Stellar Blade sold 1 million copies at $70.
Mownoc
Member
In general the game could be described that way, it's a very successful game especially on steam. But the PlayStation release? I wouldn't describe 1m sales in 3 months as a monster hit. If it was there'd be dozens of "monster hits" every year. Now there's a reason for that, the game is old AF, so selling 1m is a good result taking that into account.
feynoob
Banned
and?
They are still PS users.
you just come here for that. People here are happy that MS is enjoying those sales and will port more games.
Saying that ironically on a post that states the game which sold 1m on that platform. Just take that console shit from your eyes man. Those gamers spoke with their wallets, instead of taking to online argument.
BTW, the game will continue to sell more. 1M is just the start, since this type of games will attract more people.
DenchDeckard
Moderated wildly
Yes, I admit a brand new released game with a huge marketing push and doing 1 million in 3 months like Stellar Blade would be pretty low for the userbase, especially as an exclusive.
Sea of Thieves, 7 years old and doing 1 mill. Is pretty damn good.
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Klayzer
Member
Nobody is disputing that. You said it was a monster hit. That's the discussion.
DenchDeckard
Moderated wildly
I still think its a hit for a 7 year old game
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feynoob
Banned
Both games have different audience. Why are people even comparing them?
Killjoy-NL
Gold Member
I come here because it's a new game on Playstation.
Welcome to a new reality.
1M isn't a monster hit and I already acknowledged it sells decently, which was to be expected.
You are the ones that take it as a negative.
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Mownoc
Member
This post originally was "Did I?" he didn't remember calling it a monster hit!
Then edited to "I still think it's a monster hit!" after he checked
Then edited to "I still think it's a hit for a 7 year old game" when he realised calling it a monster hit is dumb.
If I completely rewrote my posts 3 times in 3 minutes I wouldn't be able to remember what I had or hadn't said either.
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Nice try, but Circana’s YTD sales are based on dollar revenues. Not copies sold.
It does mean that Sea of Thieves has sold significantly more than Stellar Blade or Ronin in the U.S., since both are around 40% higher in pricing.
We don’t have YTD for Europe, unfortunately.
feynoob
Banned
1m is a hit, not because of the amount of copies, but the type of game it is. Sea of thieves is first and almost a co-op game. You need other players to experience most of the content. You can play as a solo, but the experience isn't the same.
Would have been meh, if it was just a normal SP/live service game.
Mownoc
Member
Wait, so the very reason games like Palworld and Helldivers 2 were such massive hits. (Best played with friends so people got their friends to purchase it too or gifted it to them.) Is a reason Sea of Thieves doesn't need to sell as much to be impressive.
What?
Killjoy-NL
Gold Member
1M out of a 60+M userbase is decent at best, no matter the game or genre.
And it's not because SoT is an Xbox game, I say the same for any game, like Stellar Blade:
Killjoy-NL
Gold Member
For both games they talk about 1M copies.Nice try, but Circana’s YTD sales are based on dollar revenues. Not copies sold.
It does mean that Sea of Thieves has sold significantly more than Stellar Blade or Ronin in the U.S., since both are around 40% higher in pricing.
We don’t have YTD for Europe, unfortunately.
feynoob
Banned
What kind logic is this? Those games are SP games. They aren't co-op. Co-op games are games requires another person to play with you, otherwise you won't play the game.
Killjoy-NL
Gold Member
Then why don't you compare SoT to HD2?
feynoob
Banned
It's the right step to more games on the platform. MS has now every reason to invest on PS5.
feynoob
Banned
2017 game vs new game. Platform exclusive game. Shooter game, vs pirate game. Co-op in Sea of thieves isn't the same as hell divers 2. Maybe watch sea of thieves gameplay first.
Mownoc
Member
Wtf? Sure you can play Palworld and Helldivers 2 SP, you can play Sea of Thieves SP if you want. None of them would be fun. They're all primarily co-op experiences. You're crazier than I thought. Made a silly statement and then doubled down and took it to 11. Have you played any of these games? Because I've played all three.
A game needing friends to play it so making people urge their friends to get it too is a reason a game should sell less? lmfao.
"Helldivers 2 is a SP game."
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Killjoy-NL
Gold Member
All games were going to be coming to PS regardless, because MS has no other option if it wants Xbox to remain relevant.
Spencer literally said so in the Business Update.
Yeah nvm, confused you with someone else for a sec.
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ComputerBlue
Member
Samesies.
feynoob
Banned
Yes all of them. Sea of thieves hardest to get. Palworld is full solo experience. Hell divers 2 co-op is easy.Wtf? Sure you can play Palworld and Helldivers 2 SP, you can play Sea of Thieves SP if you want. None of them would be fun. They're all primarily co-op experiences. You're crazier than I thought. Made a silly statement and then doubled down and took it to 11. Have you played any of these games? Because I've played all three.
A game needing friends to play it so making people urge their friends to get it too is a reason a game should sell less? lmfao.
"Helldivers 2 is a SP game."
feynoob
Banned
Old game vs new game.
Killjoy-NL
Gold Member
Or just lack of interest in general.
Heisenberg007
Gold Journalism
Why are you showing me Circana results?Nice try, but Circana’s YTD sales are based on dollar revenues. Not copies sold.
It does mean that Sea of Thieves has sold significantly more than Stellar Blade or Ronin in the U.S., since both are around 40% higher in pricing.
We don’t have YTD for Europe, unfortunately.
Again, we know that both games have sold 1 million copies worldwide. Why do you keep talking about only 1 region?
Tiago Rodrigues
Member
Sales expectations depend only on the publisher and what they had hoped for the title.
The game on steam (over 130M monthly active users) after 7 years sold 10M. On PS5 it sold 1M in less than 4 months. A console that has sold 60M units and monthly active users may not even reach 50M. How is that "decent at best"? Sounds like a huge thing. It's not like a new GTA just released on PS5 and sold 1M units.
The game is also a live game, so it will probably remain stable for a long time. That 1M for now will easily become 2M until the end of the year. it's not like it just stopped selling.
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Mownoc
Member
Because clearly when you are comparing a game by an Asian developer and a game published by Xbox, USA paints the whole picture.
feynoob
Banned
One is from MS, already had a community.
One is small studio, relative new IP.
It's twitter argument talk. It's only there for bad faith argument.
JackMcGunns
Member
Good, will only further firm up the multi platform Xbox approach.
So now we're admitting exclusives are bad for the consumer
HeisenbergFX4
Member
Most actual Playstation gamers aren't saying Xbox games suck, just a vocal minority here and on the internet and they are just as bad as the Colt Eastwoods of the world
Most Playstation gamers (like most Xbox gamers) just want to play games and not have to buy multiple platforms to play everything
Sethbacca
Member
What if compensation was really just the engagement we made along the way?
Skifi28
Member
They bought 1 million of the same game.
Killjoy-NL
Gold Member
Helldivers 2 sold 12M copies in the first 12 weeks.
Sales were probably 60/40 PC vs PS5 respectively, so ~5M on PS5 in the first 12 weeks.
Helldivers 2 is PlayStation’s fastest-selling game ever
Scrappy shooter ‘far exceeded expectations,’ Sony said.
www.polygon.com
In comparison, 1M is decent.
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Tiago Rodrigues
Member
Huh? Helldivers 2 was a new title. You think the game would sell 5M in 12 weeks if released in 2031 on console after the pc release in 2024? LmaoHelldivers 2 sold 12M copies in the first 12 weeks.
Sales were probably 60/40 PC vs PS5 respectively, so ~5M on PS5 in the first 12 weeks.
Helldivers 2 is PlayStation’s fastest-selling game ever
Scrappy shooter ‘far exceeded expectations,’ Sony said.
In comparison, 1M is decent.
Dude come on now.
Killjoy-NL
Gold Member
"It is an old game"
Some here claimed it would sell amazingly well, being one of the top franchises of Xbox.
DenchDeckard
even called it a monster hit on PS5.It is the first big Xbox title to ever hit Playstation, it was in full in the spotlight and it's a successfull ongoing Gaas title, according to Xbox fans.
It can be considered new to the PS installbase and some in here don't have a problem comparing it to Stellar Blade and Concord.
Humdinger
Gold Member
Well, no, it's not $40 million. I wonder if he intentionally or just subconsciously omitted the fact that Sony takes 30% of that. I'm guessing it's a subconscious oversight, because it would interfere with his desire to frame the news as a win for Microsoft. Which, financially, it is, I understand. And I'm glad for it. It means MS will be further incentivized to send their exclusive titles over to PS. I'm just commenting on Jez's omission of the obvious.
SportsFan581
Member
Number seems low, but I guess they would have micro transactions to figure in on top of that.
Heisenberg007
Gold Journalism
You're crazier than I thought. Made a silly statement and then doubled down and took it to 11.
