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Just Cause 3 |OT| Procedural Chaos
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Yeah, after spending about 6 hours with the Xbox One version I'm confident in saying this is pretty much unplayable at the current state. I had loading times of up to 4 minutes when restarting certain challenges (stopped the time) and whenever I start destroying a bigger base the framerate just completely tanks into unacceptable territories. This one isn't even the worst offender by far, but an example of what happens even if you attack a smaller base:
http://xboxclips.com/Keynwar/232c55ff-f73d-4c99-8ed5-6eb0f63ce004/embed
It feels and looks like it's playing in slow motion. I have not seen a bigger technical mess on consoles this generation - Witcher 3 and AC: Unity felt polished in comparison. I can't believe the console versions even got close to a 70 metacritic...this is plain unacceptable.
http://xboxclips.com/Keynwar/232c55ff-f73d-4c99-8ed5-6eb0f63ce004/embed
It feels and looks like it's playing in slow motion. I have not seen a bigger technical mess on consoles this generation - Witcher 3 and AC: Unity felt polished in comparison. I can't believe the console versions even got close to a 70 metacritic...this is plain unacceptable.
You have to liberate two provinces. That's all the settlements, outposts, and bases within one area. If you zoom all the way out, you can highlight the province names to see what you're missing to liberate it fully.
You need to liberate provinces, you do that by liberating towns, outposts and bases within each province.
If you zoom the map out a bit you will see each province outlined
It really is quite remarkable how bad the performance is. I honestly don't think I have played a game with performance this consistently bad in a decade or more. I have only been playing about three hours, and I have had multiple occasions where it feels like it is dipping down to single digit framerates for extended periods. It gets worse as you destroy larger areas. The longer you are in the area the lower the performance drops. Saying that it appears to be running in slow motion is not an exaggeration. I had cases of the game running so poorly that it took three to four seconds to bend down and pick up an audio log. They really should have delayed into January to get these issues ironed out. I'm not one to really care about framerate dips, but this is beyond unacceptable.
mohsinkhan
Member
Anyone have tips on the wing suit challenges, I cant even do the first one the game gives you.
EatChildren
Currently polling second in Australia's federal election (first in the Gold Coast), this feral may one day be your Bogan King.
Sounds like the PC version on a beefy rig is (unsurprisingly) worlds apart. I'm pretty much playing at 60fps@1440p, game looks clear and crisp and vibrant, and installed to an SSD eradicates frustratingly long load times.
I can only hope some patches really fix up the performance and loading speed for console folk.
I can only hope some patches really fix up the performance and loading speed for console folk.
Norwegian_Imposter
Member
Are you both playing on Xbox One? Aside from the long load times and minor dips I have had no issues on PS4
Even on a mechanical hard disk I'm finding the loading time reasonable, never longer than a couple of second. A bit annoying that it's not seamless in all of his component but I can live with this.
SoundofSilence
Member
It's being fixed.
This is sad news, I guess I'll wait. I was actually planning on picking this up this weekend if possible but decided to check here first and I saw the issues everyone is having with loading on console. That really won't work in a game like this at all.
I'm not saying that people's experiences of PowerPoint frame rates isn't true, but l'm just not feeling that it's that bad.
Perhaps l'm not sensitive to it, but in my opinion this is a wonderful game which l'm constantly thinking about when not playing.
Load times can be a pain, but the FPS drops just aren't a deal breaker for me.
I'm loving this game
On Bone by the way.
Perhaps l'm not sensitive to it, but in my opinion this is a wonderful game which l'm constantly thinking about when not playing.
Load times can be a pain, but the FPS drops just aren't a deal breaker for me.
I'm loving this game
On Bone by the way.
Really really small inputs on the controls otherwise you will over compensate and get in a right mess.
Also, you need to start each movement in advance as the wingsuit takes time to change direction.
Legendarybeepa
Member
Agreed. The first few hours I was pretty pissed off because of the slowdown, but I swear it's become better the more I play. It got really bad in one of the small towns at the start of the game (honestly like a slide show, but I can't remember the name of it) but I haven't had much of an issue since. Maybe I'm just getting used to it lol.
Great game, but I am looking forward to a patch, particularly for the loading times. Xbone as well.
Pull down on the left stick almost all the time.
Adjust a tiny bit left and right.
When you're losing momentum/to keep momentum tap the grapple button aimed at a near-forward point to pull yourself into more speed - but immediately pull back on the left stick to keep your height.
That'll carry you through.
No.
Please don't assume anything to do with making a videogame is easy. Blood, sweat and tears goes into the tiniest thing you take for granted in a game.
Big things are insanely complicated, hard, and take a lot of time to fix. The Avalanche team will be in a crunch phase of 16 hour days to fix this, probably.
NowhereFaded
Member
Tired of getting my ass handed to me in cod. Is this game worth a shit on ps4?? I have Worst Buy reward points, so it wouldn't cost me a dime. Thoughts from those who have it on ps4. Thanks GAF (;
Alright this is driving me crazy. I can't get the URGA U17 Akrobat off the ground. No matter how long I hold R2 it just putts along at a snail pace and never gets enough speed to takeoff. If I try to do the Volo Infra Ponte Air Race it just nosedives off the cliff at the end of the runway....
What the heck am I doing wrong?
What the heck am I doing wrong?
I wouldn't buy this at the moment, wait to see if the first Patch fixes thisgs. I don't have much hope it will, this is gonna need multiple patches to attempt to fix. I wouldn't expect the framerate to be fixed, unless they downgrade things.
Anyone saying saying the PS4 version only has minor fps drops is either blind, have just started the game, or has never attacked a larger base on foot or attack chopper with double missles and tons of destructible. It turns into slow motion similar to the effect when you finish a mission.
Edit: lots of negativity here so one positive, the wingsuit is awesome.
As someone who isn't sensitive to frame drops...I can definitely feel it in this game. This game goes slow mo in too many situations and good luck if its raining while you are liberating an area with a lot of explosions...even worse.
This really does need some patches applied.
My sensitivity to frame rate dips must be non existant because i don't see anything in that clip that would make the game remotely unplayable for me. I've destroyed tons of bases thus far both big and small and i've never felt like my performance has been hampered. Naturally, that's not me suggesting that there aren't real issues that people are experiencing with the framerate but for me the game has been playing normal or atleast fluid enough where framerate dips aren't evident to me
NowhereFaded
Member
MarcoZombieCannon
Member
You sure you're not missing a settlement or a base somewhere? Zoom out on the map and see if you've actually liberated everything. It'll give you a count.
Sloane_Ranger
Member
Just chiming in on the load times - A) inconsistent and B) when bad they are BAAAAD. My load times for the gear challenges range from 15 sec to 2 minutes depending on the day / how often I have tried each repeatedly in a row.
Aside from that - still fun ... my kids and I have been doing call-out challenges all week versus each other. Nothing better than having a 8 year old get excited because he can hang upside down on a helicopter and shoot RPGs at cars.
On PS4 BTW.
Aside from that - still fun ... my kids and I have been doing call-out challenges all week versus each other. Nothing better than having a 8 year old get excited because he can hang upside down on a helicopter and shoot RPGs at cars.
On PS4 BTW.
hmm - there's some things called hidden settlements. that might do it!
I fucking hate every single challenge. None of them have been fun. Some are easy and some are more difficult but not a single one has been enjoyable for me.
I'm guessing you need a perfect bullseye on all targets for the gun challenges. And for the multi target ones I suppose you need to have the perfect number knocked down each time. Reminds me of the shooting gallery in GTA V which I also did not enjoy.
Also, I might upload a video later where I glitched by getting onto a vehicle and wound up in an invisible box.
EDIT: I wish the conditions in which I was doing a challenge remained the same. One instance the road is relatively clear and the other there is a fire fight going on and 3 cars parked on the road blocking me.
I'm guessing you need a perfect bullseye on all targets for the gun challenges. And for the multi target ones I suppose you need to have the perfect number knocked down each time. Reminds me of the shooting gallery in GTA V which I also did not enjoy.
Also, I might upload a video later where I glitched by getting onto a vehicle and wound up in an invisible box.
EDIT: I wish the conditions in which I was doing a challenge remained the same. One instance the road is relatively clear and the other there is a fire fight going on and 3 cars parked on the road blocking me.
Freezasaurus
Member
They really are. But other than that, I've been enjoying it.
7DollarHagane
Banned
I got the ps4 version from gamefly because I forgot to remove it when I got the pc version.
Wow that is a difference. I have a slightly older pc (gtx 670, i7-2700k) but the load times, framerate and detail are way improved on pc.
Wow that is a difference. I have a slightly older pc (gtx 670, i7-2700k) but the load times, framerate and detail are way improved on pc.
Just had my first crash, was bombarding a bavarium mine with the Navajo double missles chopper. Framerate was at least in the teens, maybe lower, constant slow motion.
Edit: well one nice thing, it seems it saved everything I had destroyed at the site on the checklist
Edit 2: Game just crashed again just flying high, no fighting.
Edit: well one nice thing, it seems it saved everything I had destroyed at the site on the checklist
Edit 2: Game just crashed again just flying high, no fighting.
I'm assuming you bought it for console. I picked it up on PC and, while it's not perfect, I've been having nothing but fun. Already put in around 20 hours.
Unity2012
Member
Agreed. It's so annoying. Not a game breaker by any means. I feel forced to do challenges I'm not interested at all. At least give challenges an in-game currency value-so gamers get to choose which ones to do.
Glad to hear they're working on load times.
Playing on XOne. Game is still really fun to play. I hope a patch is released soon.
erotic grandpa
Member
Took a chance on opening my copy, and so far I'm enjoying it quite a bit.
Wingsuit challenges are probably my favorite thing in here, since (exactly as I hoped) the wingsuit is probably my favorite thing in this game so far.
Haven't hit any horrendous loads yet (PS4), though the way story missions weave in and out of "in-game story bit > load > gameplay > load > in-game story bit > etc." really sucks any sort of momentum those missions could hope to have.
Haven't found anything really cool like in Just Cause 2 (no mile-high dance clubs
), but just moving around is fun enough for me to be pretty OK with it for now.
Wingsuit challenges are probably my favorite thing in here, since (exactly as I hoped) the wingsuit is probably my favorite thing in this game so far.
Haven't hit any horrendous loads yet (PS4), though the way story missions weave in and out of "in-game story bit > load > gameplay > load > in-game story bit > etc." really sucks any sort of momentum those missions could hope to have.
Haven't found anything really cool like in Just Cause 2 (no mile-high dance clubs
), but just moving around is fun enough for me to be pretty OK with it for now.
Elitist1945
Member
Liberating places is surprisingly fun.
Strange as it sounds, it's still worth it.
Don't get me wrong the load times are abysmal and something Avalanche should really be ashamed of but it's something I can put up with because it's not happening every 10 minutes (ala Mass Effect 1) and the game really is that much fun
IdreamofHIME
Member
I just can't my head around the wing suit, I can count the number if times i haven't smashed into the side of a mountain on one hand in these 1st few hours.
I just can't escape the feeling I'm going down always. Wish there was a jet booster or something. Also wish the grapple was longer.
I just can't escape the feeling I'm going down always. Wish there was a jet booster or something. Also wish the grapple was longer.
I haven't even gotten 5 gears on this one but getting good timing with reeling in as well as the speed boosted reeling might help.
To be honest, I think a lot of the challenges are designed to be repeated with powerups when you get them. I know the wing suit eventually has a powerup to slow you down which seems designed only for the challenges. There aren't a lot of situations where you want to go slow with the wingsuit. When you have better control by going slower, you can fly through the center rings better.
It kind of sucks that on these challenges, barely missing the bullseye is worth like 750 points...huge loss from the 2000 points you get through the center.
If you are using a controller, are you pulling back on the left stick to keep altitude? And yeah, the grapple length isn't too amazing in this. Feels too short to me.