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Lamen here: Why do pc games simply do not blow out console games graphically?
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S0ULZB0URNE
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That is with fake fps and resolutions.My 4080 does path tracing maxed out around that frame rate.
4090s go above 100
'Alan Wake 2' Benchmarks Show RTX 4090 Hitting 130+ FPS at 4K With Maxed Out Ray Tracing
Thank frame generation and Ray Reconstructionwww.tomshardware.com
That would be inferior in features by a couple generations.
twilo99
Member
The whole concept of consoles having 7-8 year update cycles is not great if you want to advance fidelity and graphics in general
Senua
Gold Member
Why are you dragging me into this shit show lmaoSenua conviently we don't see your hypocritical ass crying for a mod with this troll running wild do we.
rodrigolfp devs choose to support weak specs no matter how you spin it and it is holding everything above back.
Bojji
Member
LOL
Here is 4.9TF RDNA2 GPU - Series S has 4.0TF so this is stronger:
AMD Radeon RX 6500M Specs
AMD Navi 24, 2400 MHz, 1024 Cores, 64 TMUs, 32 ROPs, 4096 MB GDDR6, 2250 MHz, 64 bit
Topher
Identifies as young
And yet the latest graphicallly demanding game, Avatar, will run on a GPU that was released in 2016. PS5 and XSX do not equate to the minimum supported systems in gaming so how are they holding anything back?
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S0ULZB0URNE
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And?LOL
Here is 4.9TF RDNA2 GPU - Series S has 4.0TF so this is stronger:
AMD Radeon RX 6500M Specs
AMD Navi 24, 2400 MHz, 1024 Cores, 64 TMUs, 32 ROPs, 4096 MB GDDR6, 2250 MHz, 64 bitwww.techpowerup.com
Because like a hypocrit you do the same shit and then cry for help.
Puscifer
Member
Your point being what exactly? DLSS reconstruction can sometimes look better than native.
I'm still able to have graphical features that would make my PS5 melt. Whining about upscaling tech that's being used on consoles but apparently that was just fine with checkerboard rendering last gen, FSR this Gen and there's people here whining and ready FSR 3.0 frame Gen on PS5/x1
Gaiff
SBI’s Resident Gaslighter
Nah, I didn't know or I forgot. Ironic that you were the one to block when I made you look like a tool in that Alan Wake 2 thread.The quotes speak for themselves.
Gaiff why you quoting me you know you are blocked I won't entertain you and your bs.
A 1070 is faster than the Xbox One X GPU and will wipe the floor with the Series S if paired with 16GB of RAM and a semi-decent CPU. You won't have to drop down to 540p on a 1070 and it has 8GB of dedicated VRAM, not a puny 7.5GB for the entire system, including for standard RAM allocation.
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Bojji
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Senua
Gold Member
Saying I'm surprised you are never banned for shit posting is not crying for help you silly sausage.
S0ULZB0URNE
Member
1070 is inferior only a clown would just mention rasterization with modern games.
Conveniently leaves out the other specs vs the minimum.
S0ULZB0URNE
Member
You and your circle jerking crew non-stop troll consoles.
Bojji
Member
Gaiff
SBI’s Resident Gaslighter
And only a clown would bring up ray tracing on a fucking Series S. I can probably count the number of ray-traced games on the Series S on one hand whereas a 1070 even equipped with an old 2600 will embarrass it almost every time.
Here is the 1070 running the game at 1080p/High-Very High settings and averaging 54fps.
Compared to the Series S that runs it at 540p upscaled to 1080p.
I'm still shocked how you still hang around when much less egregious posters have been banned time and again.
S0ULZB0URNE
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Point being it's using trickery because it's NOT optimized for modern tech because much older tech is still supported.
Same(more so in fact) goes for the PS5.
If it was built with the strengths of the PS5 in mind it would run even better.
S0ULZB0URNE
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Sid Of Bee
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Development cost, resources, and market penetration.
The average PC gamer doesn't have a PC that outperforms a PS5.
If you want to see what a high end PC can really do, you gotta see some of those demos out there.
The average PC gamer doesn't have a PC that outperforms a PS5.
If you want to see what a high end PC can really do, you gotta see some of those demos out there.
Puscifer
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Alan Wake 2 is literally built for RT supported tech at the minimum you clown.
Alan Wake 2 Requires Mesh Shaders, Excluding Most Older GPUs
RDNA 2, Turing, or Arc (or newer) required
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64bitmodels
Reverse groomer.
Literally the only thing the xss is any good at is rasterization. And the 1070 is superior to the xss on that front.
If you wanna talk features, the rtx 4000 series has you covered.
S0ULZB0URNE
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Right they gotta take the nipple out of the mouth of older tech.
But these publishers are to scared to tell the devs to do this.
So 3rd party games suffer.
It's built for generations older gpu,cpu's and ram amounts.Alan Wake 2 is literally built for RT supported tech at the minimum you clown.
Alan Wake 2 Requires Mesh Shaders, Excluding Most Older GPUs
RDNA 2, Turing, or Arc (or newer) required
I had 16gb of ram in 2010.
Serious modern PC gamers use much more.
S0ULZB0URNE
Member
It offers generations newer features like RT.
4000 series isn't the minimum specs.
rodrigolfp
Haptic Gamepads 4 Life
What is forbidding an 1070 + ryzen 5 to use a PCIe 4.0 7400m/s nvme???
Bojji
Member
xss gpu alone isn't more modern and capable than a 1070?
It is more modern but it's not more capable, 1070 is much faster in rasterization.
S0ULZB0URNE
Member
Of course you aren't paying attention.
The minimum specs are what is.
Regardless
Still are missing modern features and efficiency.
rodrigolfp
Haptic Gamepads 4 Life
How is the occasional traversal stuttering? Patched or still there?
S0ULZB0URNE
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It is more modern and capable.
rodrigolfp
Haptic Gamepads 4 Life
For running on the lowest graphics, but of course you are not "paying attention" to that detail yet.
KimDongHwan
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Would it be possible (maybe it is already out there) for some dev to create a very small Demo of what is possible on the highest of highest end of PC? Just so that we get a sense of what is being held back by all other graphics cards and / or consoles? I don't think this may be that expensive to make
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SmokedMeat
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Why do we not see a difference?
Oh there’s definitely a difference, just like there’s a difference between Switch and PS5.
You’re just not going to see special assets created solely for PC, so that’s why games look similar. It’s all about PCs being able to run those same games at settings and performance levels that consoles cant handle.
Oh there’s definitely a difference, just like there’s a difference between Switch and PS5.
You’re just not going to see special assets created solely for PC, so that’s why games look similar. It’s all about PCs being able to run those same games at settings and performance levels that consoles cant handle.
S0ULZB0URNE
Member
If such dated(in comparison) tech has to be taken in consideration in the development process the better hardware suffers.
Luckily shit ports are sometimes fixable on PC. I use the DX11 mode in a Vulkan wrapper and a UW/FPS unlocker to get true UW and bypass the 120FPS lock the techwizards at Square Enix implemented for some reason. Seems mostly fine for me.
rodrigolfp
Haptic Gamepads 4 Life
Poor PS5 version of R&C and Returnal held back by the later PC version. /s
Again for you:
Senua
Gold Member
The persecution complex is strong with this one
S0ULZB0URNE
Member
Yes they have some demos that show off the PC and they are mega taxing.
64bitmodels
Reverse groomer.
...that it isn't capable or using well thanks to the lack of dedicated rt hardware. It might as well not be there. And rt doesn't make raster performance better
S0ULZB0URNE
Member
It doesn't run better than the PS5 with minimum specs.
Not sure the point anyway.
That's you crying for mod attention towards me on multiple occasions.
rodrigolfp
Haptic Gamepads 4 Life
Download the Matrix Demo and push some sliders up and see.
Senua
Gold Member
Dude all you do on here is fight with people. Don't ya ever get bored of all the negativity?
S0ULZB0URNE
Member
It's more capable than a 1070.
RT is one of the features the 1070 doesn't have in hardware unlike the xss.
64bitmodels
Reverse groomer.
Would a gba be more powerful than a Nintendo 64 because it has "newer features"?
How about a 3ds vs a ps3? Would the 3ds solo the ps3 because of the "newer features" its hardware may have?
It's an odd logic to be using here
How about a 3ds vs a ps3? Would the 3ds solo the ps3 because of the "newer features" its hardware may have?
It's an odd logic to be using here
S0ULZB0URNE
Member
All you do is troll console players. And you don't even run a powerful PC.
Yes GBA is more capable and powerful than a n64.
PS3 is more capable and powerful than a 3ds.
It's not just about newer It's about capabilities.
I guess when we have no argument we reach for such silly examples.
Senua
Gold Member
I really don't, just you
and my 3080 and 5800x3d is powerful enough for my needs bud. I don't buy components to brag for e peen points on gaming forums
S0ULZB0URNE
Member
I really don't, just you
rodrigolfp
Haptic Gamepads 4 Life
And Steam Deck can run Helldivers 2 much better than Radeon 5950XT. /s
S0ULZB0URNE
Member
64bitmodels
Reverse groomer.
The games do not suggest that at all though lol. Which kind of proves that features dont make power even if it may be more "capable" and "powerful"...
btw, this convo, makes me really think you have no idea what those words mean...
S0ULZB0URNE
Member
GBA games look significantly better than n64.
Your terrible comparisons make me think you jumped in without knowing.
rodrigolfp
Haptic Gamepads 4 Life
5950XT is not a CPU.The Steam Deck CPU is not more powerful.
Losing me on the point again
Time for ophthalmologist.
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