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According to the data on their website, the Radeon RX 9070 XT features the Navi 48 XT with a base clock of 2400 MHz and a boost clock of 2970 MHz. These specifications apply to the Gigabyte Gaming OC model, which presumably has higher clocks than AMD’s reference specs. The retailer confirms 16GB of GDDR6 memory across a 256-bit bus, delivering 624.1 GB/s of memory bandwidth. This suggests the memory speed is 19.5 Gbps.

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Gigabyte RX 9070 XT Gaming OC Specs, Source: Neodex



The card is listed as dual-slot, although the Gaming OC model is a 2.5-slot design. Additionally, there’s a mistake in the display connector specifications. Gigabyte’s model features two HDMI 2.1 ports and two DisplayPort 2.1 ports, not three DisplayPorts as listed by the retailer. This raises questions about the accuracy of these specs, some details may be real to an extent, while others could be speculative.

In terms of pricing, the card is listed at 35,000 Philippine pesos, approximately $600 with 12% VAT included.





Gigabyte RX 9070 XT Gaming OC Specs, Source: Neodex



Since AMD stated that its new naming scheme would align with its competitors and the RTX 50 series has already been announced, we’ve included a list of all xx70 series cards revealed at CES 2025 below. If NVIDIA’s pricing is any indicator, AMD’s cards might fall within the $549–$749 price range, provided they deliver comparable performance. The same could be said about the RTX 5070 series.

 

[squidilix]

600$ for a more powerful card than a 4080 Super + FSR4 ?

WTF, I need this...

 

[SweetTooth]

Nice

 

[Zathalus]

Since that conversion includes VAT and it is an AIB model, that $479 price for the reference card looks to be true.

 

[Cakeboxer]

Nice price. Maybe i'll get one of these instead of an 5080 or 5070 Ti. Life is good if you aren't a fanboy.

 

[Moses85]

But will it run Half Life 2 RTX?

 

[llien]

And, wait for it, it is faster than SOME OF THE "LEAKS" predicted.
(ok, let's be fair, Azor said "most of the leaks", not "some")

AMD fires back at Radeon RX 9070 leaks: performance will be better than reported - VideoCardz.com

Frank Azor dismisses Pre-CES RDNA4 leaks, it should be better AMD Chief Architecture of Gaming Solutions and Gaming Marketing was interviewed by PCWorld. Adam Patrick Murray reaction to Frank Azor’s claim, Source: PCWorld It seems like every AMD launch is followed by a new wave of secrets...

videocardz.com

But will it run (exclusives by The Filthy Green) that well?

It would be a shocker, if it did.

I think that amusingly 2005 looking "Control" thing even uses a different code path (!!!) when running on non-Green GPUs.

Since that conversion includes VAT and it is an AIB model, that $479 price for the reference card looks to be true.

VAT was just 10% in this instance.

 

[Moses85]

And, wait for it, it is faster than SOME OF THE "LEAKS" predicted.
(ok, let's be fair, Azor said "most of the leaks", not "some")

AMD fires back at Radeon RX 9070 leaks: performance will be better than reported - VideoCardz.com

Frank Azor dismisses Pre-CES RDNA4 leaks, it should be better AMD Chief Architecture of Gaming Solutions and Gaming Marketing was interviewed by PCWorld. Adam Patrick Murray reaction to Frank Azor’s claim, Source: PCWorld It seems like every AMD launch is followed by a new wave of secrets...

videocardz.com

It would be a shocker, if it did.

I think that amusingly 2005 looking "Control" thing even uses a different code path (!!!) when running on non-Green GPUs.


VAT was just 10% in this instance.

If not, AMD is a no go for me

 

[DenchDeckard]

This seems off to me. I have seen pricing from Saphire and XTX and that seems low.

Of course, I may have been given dummy pricing which is normally higher for initial po. So we will see.

My guide pricing would point it to be closer to £649....

So yeah if the pricing is had seen dropped by 35 to 50 £599 might be achievable.

 

[Zathalus]

VAT was just 10% in this instance.

12% vat coming to just over $590. Since it is an AIB card under $479 seems correct. $499 at the most.

 

[Imtjnotu]

Imma need that $550

 

[JohnnyFootball]

$600 is dead in the water.

Even if it has near 4080S raster performance (it won’t. I’m not allowing myself to believe this) it’s still too much.

It has to drastically undercut nvidias prices.

$499 is the max this card needs to be priced.

You don’t take back marketshare from nvidia by not being aggressive.

 

[crazepharmacist]

I need you guys to buy all the AMD cards you can get your hands on so my stock can stop going down. Please

 

[RCX]

Not bad at all.

This is enticing for sure. As always, wait for independent reviews.

 

[Gaiff]

$600 is dead in the water.

Even if it has near 4080S raster performance (it won’t. I’m not allowing myself to believe this) it’s still too much.

It has to drastically undercut nvidias prices.

$499 is the max this card needs to be priced.

You don’t take back marketshare from nvidia by not being aggressive.

At $600, it’d be presumably on par with the $750 5070 Ti or around 25% faster than the 5070 for $50 more. I’d say that’s undercutting them significantly already.

$480-500 would make it one of the best value cards ever released if those benches are true. That’s half the price of the 4080.

Really a shame Intel shat the bad with the B580 because that card at the low end and AMD at the mid to upper mid-range would have made it tough for NVIDIA.

 

[StereoVsn]

Nice price. Maybe i'll get one of these instead of an 5080 or 5070 Ti. Life is good if you aren't a fanboy.

Yeah, the benchmarks and reviews will be very interesting.

This is an excellent price point.

 

[StereoVsn]

At $600, it’d be presumably on par with the $750 5070 Ti or around 25% faster than the 5070 for $50 more. I’d say that’s undercutting them significantly already.

$480-500 would make it one of the best value cards ever released if those benches are true. That’s half the price of the 4080.

Really a shame Intel shat the bad with the B580 because that card at the low end and AMD at the mid to upper mid-range would have made it tough for NVIDIA.

$600 includes 12% VAT and its 3rd party. Reference card should then be $500 or the rumored $489 price.

 

[Gaiff]

$600 includes 12% VAT and its 3rd party. Reference card should then be $500 or the rumored $489 price.

Yeah, I know. I'm saying even at $600, it'd still be good. At $500-ish, it becomes one of the best value cards ever released.

 

[llien]

Gigabyte RX 9070 XT Gaming OC Specs, Source: Neodex

So it's more than 7800XT, but less than 7900XT. The latter had:

5376 shading units vs 4096
84 vs 64 "RT cores"
800GB/s vs 624GB/s memory bandwitdth

on the other hand

2025/2400 MHz vs 2400/3000Mhz base/boost clock

AMD is a no go for me

AMD is indeed a no go for you.

 

[SABRE220]

Please be good!! I gave up hope with Amd with the earlier 4070tier rumors but maybe could it be..

 

[Boss Mog]

You can't go off of a Filipino pre-order price. The 5080 was priced at the equivalent of $1500 on foreign sites but the US MSRP is $999.

 

[SmokedMeat]

Since that conversion includes VAT and it is an AIB model, that $479 price for the reference card looks to be true.

That would be a sweet spot for me.

So many rumors are floating about. Looking forward to seeing some concrete info and benchmarks.

 

[SolidQ]

on the other hand

More important. Caches are changed(structurally) That where high perf rumors is coming.

 

[Radical_3d]

Really a shame Intel shat the bad with the B580

What happened? I thought it was “people’s card”?

 

[Gaiff]

What happened? I thought it was “people’s card”?

Shits the bed when paired with older CPUs.

 

[kevboard]

At $600, it’d be presumably on par with the $750 5070 Ti or around 25% faster than the 5070 for $50 more. I’d say that’s undercutting them significantly already.

$480-500 would make it one of the best value cards ever released if those benches are true. That’s half the price of the 4080.

Really a shame Intel shat the bad with the B580 because that card at the low end and AMD at the mid to upper mid-range would have made it tough for NVIDIA.

worse raytracing, worse feature set.

that's why AMD needs more aggressive pricing. this card is less future proof than any Nvidia card at the same price range.

and we still don't know how good FSR4 will actually be at resolutions people play in, aka 1080p and 1440p either.
that 4K performance mode demo they had on the show floor at CES looks promising, but will it be even close to the new DLSS transormer model? will it still look good with a sub 1080p internal resolution?

what use is a 25% faster raster performance if the 5070 user can turn on DLSS and get the same image quality and performance?
what use is 25% faster raster if a new game that requires raytracing releases and runs worse due to slower RT perfomance?
Indiana Jones is a game that would be a great test case for this. it requires RT and it looks objectively better with DLSS quality mode than native... would the 25% faster raster perfomance and FSR4 be enough to catch up to that?

so AMD needs aggressive prices because they currently can only compete in raster performance, while being years behind in everything else.
it's the main reason they have such a small market share imo. they literally can not compete directly, but constantly try to compete directly in pricing.

 

[SABRE220]

Shits the bed when paired with older CPUs.

This can be fixed with new drivers right? That being said the damage to the brands newly acquired goodwill and reputation will be crippling.

 

[Lokaum D+]

worse raytracing, worse feature set.

that's why AMD needs more aggressive pricing. this card is less future proof than any Nvidia card at the same price range.

and we still don't know how good FSR4 will actually be at resolutions people play in, aka 1080p and 1440p either.
that 4K performance mode demo they had on the show floor at CES looks promising, but will it be even close to the new DLSS transormer model? will it still look good with a sub 1080p internal resolution?

what use is a 25% faster raster performance if the 5070 user can turn on DLSS and get the same image quality and performance?
what use is 25% faster raster if a new game that requires raytracing releases and runs worse due to slower RT perfomance?
Indiana Jones is a game that would be a great test case for this. it requires RT and it looks objectively better with DLSS quality mode than native... would the 25% faster raster perfomance and FSR4 be enough to catch up to that?

so AMD needs aggressive prices because they currently can only compete in raster performance, while being years behind in everything else.
it's the main reason they have such a small market share imo. they literally can not compete directly, but constantly try to compete directly in pricing.

 

[asdasdasdbb]

worse raytracing, worse feature set.

that's why AMD needs more aggressive pricing. this card is less future proof than any Nvidia card at the same price range.

Well, if the raster performance is better than NV's $999 card and pretty close in RT (and better than the 5070 Ti)...

 

[DoubleClutch]

Repost:

AMD Radeon RX 9070 expected to start at $479, available as soon as late January.

https://www.techspot.com/news/106295-amd-rx-9070-expected-start-479-drop-late.html https://www.pcgamesn.com/amd/radeon-rx-9070-xt-price-launch-rumor AMD living up to its promise of aggressively targeting the affordable midrange. Flagship GPU that undercuts the RTX 5070 in price. Feels like...

www.neogaf.com

 

[llien]

There is no way for AMD to swing the green dumdums.

Overly aggressive undercutting simply means less income and makes no sense in a world where 3050 outsold cheaper 6600, a full tier faster and cooler card 4 to 1.

As for "12GB card is more... future prof". Yeah. Future proofing is totally what Mr Huang is about. No shit.

 

[llien]

Repost

Why do people drool over unlikely price points is beyond me.

Probably to get disappointed and blame vendor's marketing for not matching made up expectations.

 

[kevboard]

Well, if the raster performance is better than NV's $999 card and pretty close in RT (and better than the 5070 Ti)...

will it tho? I doubt it. and again, will it be able to compete with DLSS? the final image quality is what matters, not the internal resolution they can push.
if the 5070 can run 25%, maybe even 50% fewer pixels while having the same image quality than the 9070... what use is the faster rater performance?
if the 5070 is faster in RT on top of that, what use is the faster raster performance?

if the same game will look and run the same or better despite a lower internal resolution, then AMDs raster perfomance is effectively no advantage anymore.
and that's the issue at hand. raster perfomance is no longer the most important gen-to-gen improvement for a GPU.

 

[asdasdasdbb]

will it tho? I doubt it.

At this point I am wondering if the 5070 is even faster than the 4070 Super in RT, let alone raster (and there the 5070 might be slower than the 4070 NS)

Edit: If you are saying people would buy a 50-60% slower card that's also more expensive... I can't argue that, lol.

 

[DoubleClutch]

will it tho? I doubt it. and again, will it be able to compete with DLSS? the final image quality is what matters, not the internal resolution they can push.
if the 5070 can run 25%, maybe even 50% fewer pixels while having the same image quality than the 9070... what use is the faster rater performance?
if the 5070 is faster in RT on top of that, what use is the faster raster performance?

if the same game will look and run the same or better despite a lower internal resolution, then AMDs raster perfomance is effectively no advantage anymore.
and that's the issue at hand. raster perfomance is no longer the most important gen-to-gen improvement for a GPU.

Few metrics show the quality of upscaling in motion. You get a lot of flicker, distortion, particles disappearing, etc. with DLSS.

I’ll take a native picture over an upscaled one any day.

Hence why every iteration is suddenly the one that will fix all that stuff, but at the same time DLSS is perfect already. On the same token, FSR4 has also improvement significantly.

 

[llien]

can run 25%, maybe even 50% fewer pixels while having the same image quality

Greenboi are non-redeemable, even if AMD would want them as potential customers.
It is an absolute zombie brain group following whatever nonsense comes out of Huang's arse and, later on, from PF's mouths.

That is why the latter get 'super preview' reviews of green scheisse.

And if you can run with 50% fewer pixels and "have the same image quality", maybe you should either wear glasses, or buy a better monitor, but, in any case, game at a lower resolution.

 

[kevboard]

Few metrics show the quality of upscaling in motion. You get a lot of flicker, distortion, particles disappearing, etc. with DLSS.

you get the same with TAA

I’ll take a native picture over an upscaled one any day.

you can't. every modern engine is designed with TAA in mind. TAA is also image reconstruction, it constructs additional detial over multiple frames to then use this to smooth out edges. this almost always introduces ghosting and distortion.

Hence why every iteration is suddenly the one that will fix all that stuff, but at the same time DLSS is perfect already. On the same token, FSR4 has also improvement significantly.

every new iteration makes it ever so slightly better than TAA. it already is better than native TAA in the majority of games, this is especially true at anything above a 1440p target resolution.

FSR so far was significantly worse than Native TAA in 99% of cases, even at 4K target resolution and 1440p internal. the lower the target and internal resolution the worse it got.


in short,
this notion of "native resolution" is only valid if you play games with either MSAA or post simple process AA, which most modern AAA games do not support.
the moment TAA comes into play, you are not looking at a "native resolution" but a form of image reconstruction that creates additional detail and is prone to errors. DLSS does a better job than simple TAA if properly implemented.
their new transformer model now even cleans up improper implementations like ones with missing motion vectors for certain moving elements on screen.
will FSR4 match this? highly unlikely.

 

[ReBurn]

Is that good?

 

[kevboard]

Greenboi are non-redeemable, even if AMD would want them as potential customers.
It is an absolute zombie brain group following whatever nonsense comes out of Huang's arse and, later on, from PF's mouths.

That is why the latter get 'super preview' reviews of green scheisse.

whatever makes you sleep at night.

And if you can run with 50% fewer pixels and "have the same image quality", maybe you should either wear glasses, or buy a better monitor, but, in any case, game at a lower resolution.

you can currently do that already in many games. denying that is denying reality. and with their new update to DLSS, this will become true for more and more games as time goes on.

 

[llien]

in many games

Ah. Ok then.

denying reality

Hopefully it is not a 5070 pre-spinning inspired by paid trolls, but honest naivety by legit greenboi.

It is at a 1/3rd of 4090 that it was claimed to match. There is quite a bit of spinning todo.

Good luck.

 

[Senua]

There is no way for AMD to swing the green dumdums.

Overly aggressive undercutting simply means less income and makes no sense in a world where 3050 outsold cheaper 6600, a full tier faster and cooler card 4 to 1.

As for "12GB card is more... future prof". Yeah. Future proofing is totally what Mr Huang is about. No shit.

Greenboi are non-redeemable, even if AMD would want them as potential customers.
It is an absolute zombie brain group following whatever nonsense comes out of Huang's arse and, later on, from PF's mouths.

That is why the latter get 'super preview' reviews of green scheisse.

And if you can run with 50% fewer pixels and "have the same image quality", maybe you should either wear glasses, or buy a better monitor, but, in any case, game at a lower resolution.

I could be wrong, but I think this guy doesn't like Nvidia very much.

 

[kevboard]

Ah. Ok then.


Hopefully it is not a 5070 pre-spinning inspired by paid trolls, but honest naivety by legit greenboi.

It is at a 1/3rd of 4090 that it was claimed to match. There is quite a bit of spinning todo.

Good luck.

what are you even talking about? you sound like some emotionally charged fanboy.

I don't care about Nvidia's claims, I don't refer to Nvidia's claims, I simply state the fact that AMD is behind the times and can't compete with raster performance alone.

are people really this desperate for AMD to finally release a decent product that they just burry their heads in the sand and tell themselves that AMD can win marketshare with their current strategy?

 

[Gaiff]

what are you even talking about? you sound like some emotionally charged fanboy.

Because that’s what he is. PC warriors are even worse than console warriors and this guy is by a wide margin the most insufferable fanboy here. That’s quite a feat.

 

[llien]

I don't refer to Nvidia's claims

Ok. I thought "better than native" was the most buzzy buzz that you just repeated, but maybe it wasn't from NV after all.

AMD to finally release a decent product

Describe a "decent product" please.
So that if a miracle happens and AMD releases it, we are prepared.

that AMD can win marketshare

Who gives a f*ck.

 

[kevboard]

Ok. I thought "better than native" was the most buzzy buzz that you just repeated, but maybe it wasn't from NV after all.

it's reality. if reality offends you, there's always religion to fall back on.

DLSS is simply better than native in many games. objectively... not subjectively... OBJECTIVELY.
not every game, not all the time, but in many.
we are talking less ghosting, fewer artifacts and a sharper image.

and this is NOW, with the current CNN version. the one that breaks when the engine doesn't give it proper motion vectors and depth information.
the new transformer version can fix these issues as well, which will inevitably lead to the claim "better than native" to be true for more and more games, if not all of them.

Describe a "decent product" please.
So that if a miracle happens and AMD releases it, we are prepared.

match Nvidia's features and performance at the same price.
or, if they can't (which, it seems like they can't), price the card aggressively to compensate for these missing/lower quality features.

you can't release a slightly cheaper card that is "faster" and expect it to sell. because this "faster" card will suddenly stop being so fast when confronted with real world use cases.

in the current generation of cards you literally have to have a significantly faster AMD card to get the same real world quality as slower Nvidia cards in many games.
when the Nvidia card can render a sub 1080p image, and reconstruct it to 1440p, while the AMD card has to run at 1440p internally while getting a worse image both in motion and in stills... which card is better? the faster one, or the one that has a feature to make up for the raster speed?

Who gives a f*ck.

well, you seem very eager to downplay the market leader while gassing up AMD

 

[pqueue]

don't forget to include the tariffs that Trump is going to add to everything made outside the US. going to impact both Nvidia and AMD.

Cards are going to be way more expensive than MSRP.

 

[YeulEmeralda]

will it tho? I doubt it. and again, will it be able to compete with DLSS? the final image quality is what matters, not the internal resolution they can push.
if the 5070 can run 25%, maybe even 50% fewer pixels while having the same image quality than the 9070... what use is the faster rater performance?
if the 5070 is faster in RT on top of that, what use is the faster raster performance?

if the same game will look and run the same or better despite a lower internal resolution, then AMDs raster perfomance is effectively no advantage anymore.
and that's the issue at hand. raster perfomance is no longer the most important gen-to-gen improvement for a GPU.

People here think Jensen spends hours talking about AI for fun not because it is a trillion eurodollar industry.

You'd think Sony developing PSSR would have been the wake-up call.

 

[JohnnyFootball]

worse raytracing, worse feature set.

that's why AMD needs more aggressive pricing. this card is less future proof than any Nvidia card at the same price range.

and we still don't know how good FSR4 will actually be at resolutions people play in, aka 1080p and 1440p either.
that 4K performance mode demo they had on the show floor at CES looks promising, but will it be even close to the new DLSS transormer model? will it still look good with a sub 1080p internal resolution?

what use is a 25% faster raster performance if the 5070 user can turn on DLSS and get the same image quality and performance?
what use is 25% faster raster if a new game that requires raytracing releases and runs worse due to slower RT perfomance?
Indiana Jones is a game that would be a great test case for this. it requires RT and it looks objectively better with DLSS quality mode than native... would the 25% faster raster perfomance and FSR4 be enough to catch up to that?

so AMD needs aggressive prices because they currently can only compete in raster performance, while being years behind in everything else.
it's the main reason they have such a small market share imo. they literally can not compete directly, but constantly try to compete directly in pricing.

LOL No. The card has 16GB or video RAM that fact alone makes its much more future proof than a 5070 or below.

 

[Buggy Loop]

I could be wrong, but I think this guy doesn't like Nvidia very much.

 

[JohnnyFootball]

what are you even talking about? you sound like some emotionally charged fanboy.

I don't care about Nvidia's claims, I don't refer to Nvidia's claims, I simply state the fact that AMD is behind the times and can't compete with raster performance alone.

are people really this desperate for AMD to finally release a decent product that they just burry their heads in the sand and tell themselves that AMD can win marketshare with their current strategy?

Im in agreement. People want DLSS/FG/Ray tracing competitors.

If the 9070 XT can offer 7900XT/4070 Ti raster performance and ray tracing performance that is also on par with the 4070 Ti....then AMD has a real winner on their hand. FSR4 has already gotten a lot more positive buzz from people I trust. If AMD can close the gap in these areas, they're back in the game.

Those are all big ifs.