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Linkin Park may be Reuniting

Northeastmonk

Gold Member
It’s super difficult listening to her sing My December. That song was Chester’s.

It’s like listening to Smells Like Teen Spirit with a different artist. Anyone can admit that Kurt’s vocals make that track amazing.
 
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Big Baller

Al Pachinko, Konami President
I'm fascinated by Joe Hahn's role on stage. This might sound a bit negative, but I don't mean it to be, I just want to understand.

I am practically certain that aside from the occasional record scratch, he does nothing onstage, but effectively mime a performance. If anyone knows different, I'd love to know.

This is what I think the live show is in terms of the parts that are attributed to him. I know he does solos and so on, but I'm talking about in actual songs where the whole band are playing together.

LP definitely play to a click track (band listen to a metronome that they play to so everyone is in time with everything), they have to because they use samples and if the band are going too fast/slow it won't work, nothing will be in sync with the samples. You COULD keep adjusting the tempo during the performance, but I'm confident that isn't happening.

I think the samples are programmed to play automatically, because even if the tempo is entirely correct, if you trigger a sample too late then for the duration of that sample it will be out of time, in the case of something like "Faint" entire verses would sound terrible and there's no way to correct it. So he's not doing that, it's too high risk.

I guess he could be doing a tiny bit of percussion on his midi pads. But other than a bit of record scratching, I don't think he's doing anything.

What goes against that is that if I were him, I'd definitely learn to play piano and play the keyboard parts that Mike Shinoda plays, it'd make loads of sense for that to happen. Shinoda is a front man has a handheld mic when he can. So, maybe Hahn is busy doing something else? But what that might be, I can't work out. I googled it and apparently he posts to the bands social media during performances.

So, is he doing anything? Does anyone know? It'd be a miserable way to make a living. Standing onstage with 5 other musicians all playing instruments while you pretend to.

He is a camera man apparently

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"What does Mr. Hahn actually do?" reminded me of the classic Depeche Mode joke - Dave sings, Martin does the music, third guy cashes the checks...
Hahn plays the samples on stage and takes over some of Mike's MIDI work. He also used to have his own little DJ-goes-nuts section.
Leeroy Thornhill from The Prodigy legit made a career from dancing in the background :messenger_grinning_sweat: But at least he was a badass dancer...


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honestly these songs are sounding more like OG Linkin park to me than anything since maybe meteora??
Yea… I just heard the new League song and I liked it more than the debut song.

If they keep this up for an entire album I might have a new LP vinyl to collect, and my most recent vinyl of theirs was Collision Course (an underrated classic imo).
 

Neolombax

Member
The new songs are growing on me. They sound more like Hybrid Theory/Meteora songs, I dig it. Don't really like it when the new vocalist sings the old LP songs though.
 

HAYA8U5A

Member
Every leak I kept coming across was a fake A.I. song that came from TikTok. Guess I didn't look hard enough. Oh well only a few more hours until it officially drops anyway.
 

TheInfamousKira

Reseterror Resettler
Every leak I kept coming across was a fake A.I. song that came from TikTok. Guess I didn't look hard enough. Oh well only a few more hours until it officially drops anyway.

Yeah, it's soon enough that FOMO shouldn't be too bad, haha.

Song itself is...pretty straightforward, but in a way that's entirely new to the catalogue, just composition wise.
 

Mahnmut

Member
I'm fascinated by Joe Hahn's role on stage. This might sound a bit negative, but I don't mean it to be, I just want to understand.

I am practically certain that aside from the occasional record scratch, he does nothing onstage, but effectively mime a performance. If anyone knows different, I'd love to know.

This is what I think the live show is in terms of the parts that are attributed to him. I know he does solos and so on, but I'm talking about in actual songs where the whole band are playing together.

LP definitely play to a click track (band listen to a metronome that they play to so everyone is in time with everything), they have to because they use samples and if the band are going too fast/slow it won't work, nothing will be in sync with the samples. You COULD keep adjusting the tempo during the performance, but I'm confident that isn't happening.

I think the samples are programmed to play automatically, because even if the tempo is entirely correct, if you trigger a sample too late then for the duration of that sample it will be out of time, in the case of something like "Faint" entire verses would sound terrible and there's no way to correct it. So he's not doing that, it's too high risk.

I guess he could be doing a tiny bit of percussion on his midi pads. But other than a bit of record scratching, I don't think he's doing anything.

What goes against that is that if I were him, I'd definitely learn to play piano and play the keyboard parts that Mike Shinoda plays, it'd make loads of sense for that to happen. Shinoda is a front man has a handheld mic when he can. So, maybe Hahn is busy doing something else? But what that might be, I can't work out. I googled it and apparently he posts to the bands social media during performances.

So, is he doing anything? Does anyone know? It'd be a miserable way to make a living. Standing onstage with 5 other musicians all playing instruments while you pretend to.
That's a great point tbh. But I wouldn't call it miserable since he is probably making millions doing so little. But I agree he has a weird position in the band.
 

TheInfamousKira

Reseterror Resettler
Sounds a bit generic

I liked the The Emptiness Machine more

Yeah, probably my least favorite of the singles, but I kind of get what they're going for here, I think. Each chorus got heavier and had more of the band behind it - this is probably Emily's Crawling or Numb styled song. They had to rip the band aid off and feature a track with only Emily vocals (Mike does some backing, but)
 

HAYA8U5A

Member
I like it since I am a big Dead Sara fan too and this one feels a bit more Dead Sara'ish so I like that there is a mix of the other songs leaning more LP and this leaning more Dead Sara. I think Hands Up in particular is the song I am getting vibes of with this.



The only thing I would maybe like to see different is a bit more of a slow burn ramping up into a heavier close. But I am a sucker for songs like that which is why Valentine's Day is one of my favorite LP songs. Lost Tree by VersaEmerge really nailed this for me between the slow build up and then lyrics from every song on the album in the chaotic closing
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Of course the deluxe edition of Fixed At Zero completely wrecks that being a perfect close by putting the bonus tracks after it instead of rearranging the track order.

 

TheInfamousKira

Reseterror Resettler
Im not sure on the epilpesy :messenger_tears_of_joy: but his shows are very theatrical from what Ive seen. Pulitzer prize winning rapper.

It's one of those deals where I'm pretty sure I jammed on an album or an equivalent number of songs by this guy back when I was into hard substance problems, and can't remember any of it.

Shit.

I know I could just look it up, but it's almost a pride thing at this point.
 

Mr Reasonable

Completely Unreasonable
That's a great point tbh. But I wouldn't call it miserable since he is probably making millions doing so little. But I agree he has a weird position in the band.
I meant more like in terms of self respect or pride. Being paid lots of money is one thing, but when you meet someone and say you're a musician in a band, you can imagine nobody is imagining that the instrument you put most effort into onstage is the Instagram app on your phone.
 

HAYA8U5A

Member
Listened to the streaming version instead of just the music video which has Mike talking a bit at the end that is cut out from the music video. Closes with him saying to get your screaming pants on with Casuality being the next track so seems that is going to be heavy on the screaming.

Fuck off Gaga


But r/music said this version of Linkin Park is doomed because of their pathetic little witch hunt!
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TheInfamousKira

Reseterror Resettler
Listened to the streaming version instead of just the music video which has Mike talking a bit at the end that is cut out from the music video. Closes with him saying to get your screaming pants on with Casuality being the next track so seems that is going to be heavy on the screaming.



But r/music said this version of Linkin Park is doomed because of their pathetic little witch hunt!
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Mass population is stupid and has goldfish memory, so every single released is "the end of the band," because it's too x or not enough y, despite being on the same fucking album. I'm pretty certain there's a non-insignificant number of people out there who legitimately think artists release songs as they work on them. Like Over Each Other wasn't written/recorded when The Emptiness Machine dropped or some shit.
 

Hookshot

Member
Originally I only saw the negativity to it, with his kid complaining but now some time has passed, has this been well received?
 

nightmare-slain

Gold Member
Originally I only saw the negativity to it, with his kid complaining but now some time has passed, has this been well received?
Well they are selling out shows everywhere. The album is still to come. I don't know about the most recent single but the 1st and the one for LoL was quite popular.

I get that a lot of fans will find it hard to see someone take Chester's place but I think that anyone who really cares about the band will be happy to see them go on.

Hybrid Theory was the first album I bought and I loved Linkin Park in the early days but I stopped listening to them. Chester was brilliant and nobody can ever replace him but since the reunion and Emily joining I've been listening to LP more than ever. I can't wait for the album and hopefully a chance to see them live.

Haters are gonna hate. Most of them never liked Linkin Park or aren't real fans. It's never easy seeing a band replace a member especially a lead singer but I think it's cool they are back and putting out more music. I'm always up for that.
 
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