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Linux Distro Noob thread of Linux noobs
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Vanillalite
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Marvelous said:
Haven't tried it yet, but saw a big article on it online. They say it's gonna be the next big thang in terms of file systems, but I've heard that about a lot of things.
Brettison said:
Yeah... I think Btrfs is suppose to be the Linux equivalent of ZFS. (Not sure if I worded that correctly.)
Tworak said:
Hehe, ext3? Why not ext4?
I'm currently using Btrfs and it isn't causing any problems for me... yet, lol. Unfortunately, it could be a while before all of the "big" features are ready for everyday use.
Why would you do that?
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Okay, I installed Moblin Linux on my MSi Wind netbook.
Moblin (wiki) is "Mobile Linux" specifically made for netbooks running Atom, and it runs really well. It is growing in popularity at nice rates. However, it doesn't support the Ralink RT2860 that my (and some other) netbooks have. It's weird... It sees the networks, but can't connect to them.
What would be the best course of action here? Using ndiswrapper or something else? Apparently, if I use ndisweapper, I will need to compile it from source...
This is a great thread, btw.
Moblin (wiki) is "Mobile Linux" specifically made for netbooks running Atom, and it runs really well. It is growing in popularity at nice rates. However, it doesn't support the Ralink RT2860 that my (and some other) netbooks have. It's weird... It sees the networks, but can't connect to them.
What would be the best course of action here? Using ndiswrapper or something else? Apparently, if I use ndisweapper, I will need to compile it from source...
This is a great thread, btw.
close to the edge
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Don't use the root user, ever. It's an unnecessary risk. (even though Linux is a lot more secure than Windows, mostly because it's not as widespread) You can do everything you need to do as root with sudo or su (depending on your distibution).emomoonbase said:
Get to know the commandline (bash). It's extremely powerful, it's awesome for your nerd cred and it when your X-Server doesn't work, you have something to fall back on.
I haven't heard of btfs but B-Tree sounds good. (just wrote a program implementing a B-Tree for my Algorithms class)
Why would you need to compile ndiswrapper from source? I'm not sure about Moblin Linux specifics since I haven't used it (although I have tried other "made-for-netbooks" distros) but ndiswrapper is usually very easy to use. There's even a very friendly GUI available, if I'm not mistaken.Why would you do that? said:
And why not use the ones provided here? http://www.ralinktech.com/support.php?s=2
(Download the driver, extract it and run the "install.sh" script located in the extracted folder)
Ubuntu also has a netbook version (Hardware compatibility) that supports Atom processors. Not sure if that would help with your issue, though.Why would you do that? said:
whatsinaname
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If people are aprrehensive about repartitioning their HDD to try out Ubuntu, use the WUBI installer.
http://wubi-installer.org/
You run the installer. It has options with different Ubuntu installs. Pick one and tell it what size you want the Linux partition to be and it creates a virtual drive on you HDD on which Linux is installed. It adds options at boot time that lets you pick windows or linux to boot into. Removing Linux is as simple as going into Windows and uninstalling WUBI from 'Add Remove Programs'.
http://wubi-installer.org/
You run the installer. It has options with different Ubuntu installs. Pick one and tell it what size you want the Linux partition to be and it creates a virtual drive on you HDD on which Linux is installed. It adds options at boot time that lets you pick windows or linux to boot into. Removing Linux is as simple as going into Windows and uninstalling WUBI from 'Add Remove Programs'.
Vanillalite
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whatsinaname said:
That's how I currently have my setup with Win 7. Works like charm with 10.04.
Complex Shadow
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great thread OP. i also wana thanks to "Suitcase Test" for helping me with the grub in an another thread
Flying_Phoenix
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Whew! Just did a big update to the OP:
- The list of distros is now pretty much doubled
- The list of distributions link provided by tokkun is now in the OP (I appreciated Cronos's contribution as well)
- "News" section is added with "OMG! Ubuntu" link provided by Cronos.
- Suitcase Test's awesome banner has replaced my shitty one in the OP.
I still know that there is more stuff to do but this kind of takes a while.
And thanks for the positive comments about this thread.
- The list of distros is now pretty much doubled
- The list of distributions link provided by tokkun is now in the OP (I appreciated Cronos's contribution as well)
- "News" section is added with "OMG! Ubuntu" link provided by Cronos.
- Suitcase Test's awesome banner has replaced my shitty one in the OP.
I still know that there is more stuff to do but this kind of takes a while.
And thanks for the positive comments about this thread.
Vanillalite
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Mad props for actually going through with the thread creation though! I'm a linux noob, but I'm glad we have a thread around here for us nerds!
ThatObviousUser
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WUBI is great but for some reason after I used it I kept getting a bunch of CHKDSK prompts on bootup, had to uninstall it.
O.DOGG
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My web server at home is CentOS, and I absolutely love it. I'd switch to a Linux on my desktop machine but it's still lacking software I can't do without. Also games.
One software recommendation I have to anybody using the console is Yakuake. It's a quake-style drop-down console you can toggle with a button. Extremely useful. It's the thing I miss the most on my Windows workstation at work.
One software recommendation I have to anybody using the console is Yakuake. It's a quake-style drop-down console you can toggle with a button. Extremely useful. It's the thing I miss the most on my Windows workstation at work.
Fedora is also bleeding-edge stuff. It's the one with the "latest and greatest", at the cost of being non-conservative. They are transparent about this, and most advanced users are aware of it.
See: http://lwn.net/Articles/358715/ (Also see the comments section)
OneEightZero
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Great job on the banner, Suitcase. Made the border transparent for you.
Suitcase Test
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Thanks OneEightZero, I forgot to do that. Thought I'd picked the right background color.
Ohhh, yeah this one is so awesome. Really nerdy too. :lolO.DOGG said:
Macho Madness
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Couldn't we have the Penguin somewhere in the banner? I think that would look neat.
suikodan
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Great threads guys! Thanks for all the resources. I tried several of them and I'm especially thankful for the Ubuntu Tweaks as I hate the buttons on the left, I prefer them Windows-style.
I like how Ubuntu let us install programs, either by the Software Hub or with DEB packages. I'm still green with this so when I have an archive which extracts the files "somewhere", I'm confused of what to do after because there's no desktop icons or entries in the "start" menu.
I like how Ubuntu let us install programs, either by the Software Hub or with DEB packages. I'm still green with this so when I have an archive which extracts the files "somewhere", I'm confused of what to do after because there's no desktop icons or entries in the "start" menu.
Vanillalite
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Oh speaking of Btrfs... Article!
It seems possible Btrfs could replace Ext4 as the default file system in Ubuntu version 10.10, code name "Maverick Meerkat". Developers attending last week's Ubuntu Collaboration Summit in Brussels discussed testing Btrfs as the default file system in an alpha version of Ubuntu 10.10. Ubuntu Developer Manager Scott James Remnant assessed the likelihood of switching to Btrfs as "a one in five chance".
Also...
I'd recommend Tilda in the same vein. Yakuake is a great program based on KDE stuff and Tilda is based on Gnome.
It seems possible Btrfs could replace Ext4 as the default file system in Ubuntu version 10.10, code name "Maverick Meerkat". Developers attending last week's Ubuntu Collaboration Summit in Brussels discussed testing Btrfs as the default file system in an alpha version of Ubuntu 10.10. Ubuntu Developer Manager Scott James Remnant assessed the likelihood of switching to Btrfs as "a one in five chance".
Also...
O.DOGG said:
I'd recommend Tilda in the same vein. Yakuake is a great program based on KDE stuff and Tilda is based on Gnome.
I'm definitely going to try Btrfs soon.Marvelous said:Hehe, ext3? Why not ext4?
I'm currently using Btrfs and it isn't causing any problems for me... yet, lol. Unfortunately, it could be a while before all of the "big" features are ready for everyday use.
also, I... don't really know why I'm still on ext3. :lol
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Oh, since it isn't in the OP, a quick tutorial on how to compile a program from source, using make and make install: (usually not necessary, but sometimes you won't find a pre-compiled package for your distribution of some application)
0. Check the requirements for the software you want to compile, what libraries or development packages does it require? Look for them and install them, it will save a lot of time later on.
1. Download the source, it's usually in a .tar.gz or .tar.bz2 archive, so just extract it with the default application (or, if you're feeling like console, type "tar xvzf package.tar.gz" or "tar xvjf package.tar.bz2").
2. Open up a terminal window (Gnome: hit Alt-F2 and type "gnome-terminal" or press Ctrl-Alt-F1 and Ctrl-Alt-F7 to get back to Gnome or whatever you're using) and browse to the source folder using cd /folder/folder/.. (for changing directories) and ls (lists the contents of the current directory)
3. Type "./configure", then type "make" and then type "make install". If you're lucky, your program is installed and configured. If not, look at the output of the compiler and google it.
0. Check the requirements for the software you want to compile, what libraries or development packages does it require? Look for them and install them, it will save a lot of time later on.
1. Download the source, it's usually in a .tar.gz or .tar.bz2 archive, so just extract it with the default application (or, if you're feeling like console, type "tar xvzf package.tar.gz" or "tar xvjf package.tar.bz2").
2. Open up a terminal window (Gnome: hit Alt-F2 and type "gnome-terminal" or press Ctrl-Alt-F1 and Ctrl-Alt-F7 to get back to Gnome or whatever you're using) and browse to the source folder using cd /folder/folder/.. (for changing directories) and ls (lists the contents of the current directory)
3. Type "./configure", then type "make" and then type "make install". If you're lucky, your program is installed and configured. If not, look at the output of the compiler and google it.
gregor7777
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Brettison said:
Wow, had no idea these existed. Thanks!
Vanillalite
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Marvelous said:Just remember that it's still under heavy development.
I would be shocked if Btrfs becomes the default file system in Ubuntu first instead of Fedora.
Quite frankly so would I. I expect to to come, but not this year. I'm thinking maybe by this time next year would be a better point of entry. I fully expect Fedora to hit the mark first on this one.
OneEightZero
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Hey, Phoenix, you don't have to credit me for the transparency, mate. Took like literally three seconds. :lol
scotcheggz
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I just installed the latest ubuntu distro on my parents home PC, the istall went smooth but now it's up, it's running like shite. I checked the system monitor and the cpu usage hasn't fluctuated from 100% once in the last 2-3 minutes. Nothing is running.
Does anyone know if this is this a common, quick fix scenario or do I need to start playing around?
Does anyone know if this is this a common, quick fix scenario or do I need to start playing around?
Vanillalite
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scotcheggz said:
Official Ubuntu Forums
That thread supposedly has the same issue as you and they have a fix somewhere in there. Not saying it'll work for you, but better than nothing!
Let us know!
http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/
Good application for linux noobs wanting to try out various distros if you don't have burnable CDs available and only a USB stick. Simply select USB-HDD (or something similar) in your BIOS as the first boot device once you're done.
Good application for linux noobs wanting to try out various distros if you don't have burnable CDs available and only a USB stick. Simply select USB-HDD (or something similar) in your BIOS as the first boot device once you're done.
Green Biker Dude
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i want to try freebsd. should i download version 8 or 7.3? 7.3 is newer, but 8 should be better in theory since 7 is afraid of 8 and all that
scotcheggz
Member
Well, that's wierd!
I had a feeling it was something to do with the graphics drivers, so I re-installed (or installed?) the graphics drivers for ATI and it's running perfectly now!
Thanks for the quick suggestions guys!
I had a feeling it was something to do with the graphics drivers, so I re-installed (or installed?) the graphics drivers for ATI and it's running perfectly now!
Thanks for the quick suggestions guys!
Vanillalite
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Xyphie said:
Yeah I forgot to mention this. This program is AWESOME to the MAX! It's the easiest way to test out a ton of different distros if you have a descent usb stick. Not to mention it's handy as hell to have a distro around if you need to gank some files from a broken windows install.
Anyone have any advice for me? I tried to install Ubuntu 10.04 64-bit edition as a Virtual Machine inside VMWare Workstation 7.0 but when I go to the log in screen, it won't accept any keystrokes. If I right-click the password field on the log in page, my Input Method is set as System (IBus (Intelligent Input Bus)).
Help?
Help?
OneEightZero
aka ThreeOneFour
I coastered a disc while installing Ubuntu. I think it's a sign. :lol
I installed XP and Ubuntu 10.04 (I was still using the Windows 7 Release Candidate and finally got sick of my system restarting every two hours :lol), and I have to say, I'm really digging it. I still haven't gotten completely used to it, nor have I managed to get everything to work, but as it stands now, I wouldn't mind using it full time. It's definitely a lot better than the last time I used it, which was a few years ago. I'm glad they got rid of the old desktop theme, there was something about that brown that was almost nausea inducing.
Vanillalite
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Can I just say the tightly integrated feature set of the Gwibber + Empathy + Notification system is like 1000 times cooler than I ever would have imagined. I didn't think much of it when they were talking about adding that stuff in before release, but god using it day to day is bad to the ass. Makes me think doing that stuff in Windows is gheto.
Elfforkusu
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Yeah, there seems to be something goofy with the software graphics drivers in 10.4. Stole a core from my i7 (yes okay not a huge deal but still) until I'd installed the proper ATI driver.scotcheggz said:
Elfforkusu said:
Mine had some issues with the nvidia drivers. Had the latests installed (195?) and activated compiz and the system started to look for new drivers, downloaded and installed the old ones (175). Had to remove them all and reinstall them.
Still I don't know why the goddam plymouth looks like ass. Fucking 800x600 resolution for no reason. I got plymouth on Arch with nvidia drivers and the resolution is higher.
Edit: Oh wait no, I just remembered, I got plymouth on the eeepc, with an intel card that supports KMS. Goddam.
Suitcase Test
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Oh. Mine did the same, but I solved it with this: http://news.softpedia.com/news/How-...ly-Plymouth-Logo-in-Ubuntu-10-04-140810.shtmlitxaka said:
Vanillalite
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Suitcase Test said:
Hey thanks for that! It didn't really bother me, but I finally checked the link as I wasn't understanding what plymouth logo meant. Yet I was like oh yeah I have that exact issue. Instructions were easy to follow and boom it is fixed!
Flying_Phoenix
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close to the edge said:
I thought you typed "sudo install "name of app"" or something?