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Lords of The Fallen 2 is ignoring DEI and political agendas, developer confirms: "Goal is to maximize Player Enjoyment"

Though I enjoy the meltdowns, I'm not convinced this is a good idea either. They should just ignore the issue. They were asked, they replied "no" and that should close the matter, there's no need to insist. By discussing it further they are making it more important than it is.
 
You may be right, especially about the motives behind stuff like this. However, the original information about not focusing on DEI was not stated in a performative way by the company - it was shared in an investor chat. Next a person on Twitter commented about the Body A and B stuff and the company responded to that and later went on to make the poll. What I'm seeing so far is an effort to listen to customers and that's something positive compared to the usual condescending attitude we get (you know, gamers are toxic, bigoted, etc.).

Personally, I'm waiting to see if these changes are implemented when the game releases. The return of male/female, for example. Several gaming media sites are already writing hit pieces on the company, as well. If nothing else, I applaud their willingness to go against the activists on these sites and Twitter - not too many have been willing to in the past.

Nice post and thanks for clarifying that friend...

Cheers
 
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Mister Wolf

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What a fucking baller. Anti-woke is so hot right now.

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Hudo

Gold Member
What a weird business move, focusing on making a fun video game for players. That will certainly backfire and put them out of business.
 

mckmas8808

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Though I enjoy the meltdowns, I'm not convinced this is a good idea either. They should just ignore the issue. They were asked, they replied "no" and that should close the matter, there's no need to insist. By discussing it further they are making it more important than it is.

They are virtue signaling and pandering. I just hope for their sake the game is good.
 

Crayon

Member
Though I enjoy the meltdowns, I'm not convinced this is a good idea either. They should just ignore the issue. They were asked, they replied "no" and that should close the matter, there's no need to insist. By discussing it further they are making it more important than it is.

They are taking this far enough that it looks like they are considering it a marketable point. Who knows - they might be right.
 
It’s funny how marketing works

- they wanted sale boosts so pushed for DEI/ diversity
- now they see as no DEI pushing sales and it’s becomes its own marketing

What’s next? No DEI/no no DEI
 
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samoilaaa

Member
Marek Tyminski, CEO of CI Games, is back with another poll, this time asking about the impact of DEI



Me personally i dont care about lords of the fallen , i didnt buy it and i wont buy it even if they changed Body types to Male/female and are against woke all of a sudden but what i find interesting is why are people allowed to speak against DEI practices now ?

i mean go back in time 2-3 years ago and this guy would be canceled in 24 hours for a poll like this , what changed ?
 

Kacho

Gold Member
Marek Tyminski, CEO of CI Games, is back with another poll, this time asking about the impact of DEI



Me personally i dont care about lords of the fallen , i didnt buy it and i wont buy it even if they changed Body types to Male/female and are against woke all of a sudden but what i find interesting is why are people allowed to speak against DEI practices now ?

i mean go back in time 2-3 years ago and this guy would be canceled in 24 hours for a poll like this , what changed ?

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xrnzaaas

Member
This is pre-planned, simply in the other direction than we are all used to. A CEO suddelny wakes up and wants to talk anti-DEI on twitter? Nah, I don't believe it's genuine, with no plans of getting bonus points from a certain crowd.

In an ideal world the devs wouldn't have to make any statements or try to get some attention on social media and instead just deliver what gamers want.
 
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Denton

Member
This is pre-planned, simply in the other direction than we are all used to. A CEO suddelny wakes up and wants to talk anti-DEI on twitter? Nah, I don't believe it's genuine, with no plans of getting bonus points from a certain crowd.

In an ideal world the devs wouldn't have to make any statements or try to get some attention on social media and instead just deliver what gamers want.
It can be both genuine, and marketing tapping into current zeitgeist at the same time. Not mutually exclusive. Trump winning popular vote is what is giving people newfound courage.
 

samoilaaa

Member
This is pre-planned, simply in the other direction than we are all used to. A CEO suddelny wakes up and wants to talk anti-DEI on twitter? Nah, I don't believe it's genuine, with no plans of getting bonus points from a certain crowd.

In an ideal world the devs wouldn't have to make any statements or try to get some attention on social media and instead just deliver what gamers want.
you might be right , he most likely got a free pass from some organization otherwise journalists and acitivists would start making articles about it calling this guy a bigot , racist , homophobe you name it
 

Kacho

Gold Member
This is pre-planned, simply in the other direction than we are all used to. A CEO suddelny wakes up and wants to talk anti-DEI on twitter? Nah, I don't believe it's genuine, with no plans of getting bonus points from a certain crowd.

In an ideal world the devs wouldn't have to make any statements or try to get some attention on social media and instead just deliver what gamers want.
I think the real takeaway is that public acknowledgement of this stuff is acceptable now. Whether it’s genuine or not doesn’t really matter. Take the W that’s in front of you. If there’s another culture swing in 10 years and this dev bends the knee, they will get raked over the coals.
 

laynelane

Member
Marek Tyminski, CEO of CI Games, is back with another poll, this time asking about the impact of DEI



Me personally i dont care about lords of the fallen , i didnt buy it and i wont buy it even if they changed Body types to Male/female and are against woke all of a sudden but what i find interesting is why are people allowed to speak against DEI practices now ?

i mean go back in time 2-3 years ago and this guy would be canceled in 24 hours for a poll like this , what changed ?


Speaking strictly within the gaming sphere, we've seen quite a few DEI games fail in the last while. We've also had formerly beloved franchises completely botched by it, eg. Veilguard. All of these failures and disappointments have DEI elements within them or are composed majorly of such factors, plus there's been the usual hostile and out of touch dev responses to criticism. More people are talking about these things, videos are being made, etc. Basically, it's become so apparent and has had such an impact on game quality that it's become a topic of conversation for way more people than before.

The other thing is this didn't just start now. It really started to gain momentum when SBI detected started up. The attempt at a harassment campaign against the creator, by a SBI employee, introduced the Streisand Effect. I think people were aware something was off about certain games, but couldn't quite put their finger on what the problem was, so to speak. That whole incident put a glaring spotlight on exactly what the issue was.
 

laynelane

Member
you might be right , he most likely got a free pass from some organization otherwise journalists and acitivists would start making articles about it calling this guy a bigot , racist , homophobe you name it

They tried:




But it's gaming media, very few people pay them any mind nowadays.
 
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