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Luigi's Mansion 2: Dark Moon Review Thread
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Hot Coldman
Banned
Well, maybe just Mario games. (Skyward Sword wasn't exactly a 10/10)
Lord_Byron28
Member
I meant the portrait ghosts. Although from what I saw in the gamexplain review it seems that even though there aren't portrait ghosts they can be just as intricate to catch at times since they do activities the portrait ghosts did in the original. Either way I think the polygon review lowers the score predominately on tastes and not on execution of the game.
No. That is incorrect.
Lord_Byron28
Member
Were refering to the portrait ghosts. There are no portrait ghosts, its a small cast of the same ghosts that perform different things such as some wearing kitchen utensils or art supplies.
Did they actually play it? Nearly everyone I know who's played it enjoyed it. Take the recent RTTP thread for the original game; tons of people waxing nostalgia.
Though maybe you only spoke to fellow reviewers? I recall their collective take might have been less than stellar, which isn't something I took into consideration.
ShockingAlberto
Member
Not that I am taking Polygon to task for their opinion or anything, but I find it interesting that Gametrailers says the exact opposite about the ghost personalities in their review.
I wonder which one is right.
Either way, color me somewhat surprised this is being reviewed so positively. At least critically, they seem to have a pretty decent hit on their hands.
I wonder which one is right.
Either way, color me somewhat surprised this is being reviewed so positively. At least critically, they seem to have a pretty decent hit on their hands.
The Horror the horror
Banned
Damnit. I was hoping this game would be just average. I wasn't expecting Kid Icarus Uprising quality...
My wallet...someone help.
My wallet...someone help.
DashReindeer
Lead Community Manager, Outpost Games
Miyamoto hates character, confirmed.
Gamexplain said the same thing. The ghosts seemt o be super personable. Hell, you can see that in the trailers
Criminal Upper
Banned
Really wish Nintendo would just buy Next Level at this point.
No. There are unique ghosts.
I'm sorry, I'm not trying to be confrontational. I understand what you're referring to, but there are absolutely unique ghosts which have specific weaknesses. In other words, the exact same as a portrait ghost.
You can even view them out with the main story.
SteveWinwood
Member
man polygon so tuff
stand up against nintendo
no one else will
stand up against nintendo
no one else will
Poltergust
Member
That's wrong, actually. Quite a few portrait ghosts outside of bosses spoke to Luigi, and all portrait ghosts could have been scanned with the Game Boy Horror to see what they are thinking.
9/10 from us at GodisaGeek.
So pleased this game hasn't disappointed, played it in 2011 and was worried as hell.
So pleased this game hasn't disappointed, played it in 2011 and was worried as hell.
Solid SOAP
Member
Apparently they just did.
greycolumbus
The success of others absolutely infuriates me.
While this was an instabuy for me, I didn't think it would get such great reviews. Well, at least Polygon didn't disappoint.
No it's not; I said "anything of note." Some ghosts do speak, as I said, but they say very little that mattered. And yes, you could scan them all, but that usually just revealed their weak-point, glossed up as their thoughts (which weren't deep).
SteveWinwood
Member
Wait what?
ShineALight
Member
Is this based on Next Level changing their Facebook page, or did we get real confirmation?
Really? Source? All I heard was rumblings about Next Level Game's facebook page changing or something.
The Horror the horror
Banned
Because I'm broke and because I have a tendency to buy games day 1 without any consideration to my gaming budget. These great reviews will only fuel my hopeless degeneracy more...
What? Source?
Snkfanatic
Banned
Man....never played the first one, tempted to pick this up this weekend. My 3DS could use a dusting off
Solid SOAP
Member
Wasn't there this whole big thing about how Miyamoto was so impressed with their work that they're moving them to do in-house Nintendo work? I mean, I thought I read that regarding their Facebook change, but maybe I'm completely wrong then because I thought I read that here!
Valjean Lafitte
Banned
Doesn't anyone remember the portrait ghosts in Luigi's Mansion?! There was more that separated them from regular ghosts than having to find a specific way to capture them. They all had distinct personalities, many of them talked to Luigi, and a few of them even had backstories:
http://www.mariowiki.com/Luigi's_Mansion#Portrait_Ghosts
This was an element of Luigi's Mansion a lot of people found endearing that is missing from its sequel. I know NintendoGAF likes to go on full attack whenever a new game gets criticized, but this hatred towards Polygon is entirely misdirected. When they said the ghosts from the first game had more personality it was clear that they were talking about the portrait ghosts.
http://www.mariowiki.com/Luigi's_Mansion#Portrait_Ghosts
This was an element of Luigi's Mansion a lot of people found endearing that is missing from its sequel. I know NintendoGAF likes to go on full attack whenever a new game gets criticized, but this hatred towards Polygon is entirely misdirected. When they said the ghosts from the first game had more personality it was clear that they were talking about the portrait ghosts.
Interesting to see the positive words about the multiplayer, I forgot the game had multiplayer!
I'm only getting it for the single player, maybe I'll see what the fuss is about and check out the multiplayer.
But I'll probably want to jump into the free copy of Super Mario 3D Land after I finish, heh.
I'm only getting it for the single player, maybe I'll see what the fuss is about and check out the multiplayer.
But I'll probably want to jump into the free copy of Super Mario 3D Land after I finish, heh.
The quote was "ghosts have lost their motivations and personalities" which is incorrect. First off, what motivations did the portrait ghosts even have? And secondly, according to several reviews, they're still full of personality.
Brainiac 8
Member
Fantastic reviews.
In the spirit of the year of Luigi, can someone give my Wario avatar a Luigi hat. Wario feels left out.
In the spirit of the year of Luigi, can someone give my Wario avatar a Luigi hat. Wario feels left out.
Solid SOAP
Member
Yeah, I mean, if this game is good for other reasons I will base my opinion on it by its own merits, but considering this is a sequel I don't see the falter in criticizing the omission of something that made the original good. The ghosts, Luigi, and even the mansions themselves seem to all have personalities of their own though, so I ain't complaining thus far.
DR2K
Banned
XL, especially if you have man hands.
Hot Coldman
Banned
Maybe Polygon should have wrote this instead:
"they took out portrait ghosts
portrait ghosts were rad and I miss them
ergo, stuff"
"they took out portrait ghosts
portrait ghosts were rad and I miss them
ergo, stuff"
evilromero
Member
Is that polygon review serious? Get to know them?
Valjean Lafitte
Banned
As far as I know, all of the portrait ghost had the same motivation to kill Luigi: They did not want to be changed back into portraits by E. Gadd.
I don't know anything about the ghosts' personalities in Dark Moon, but I doubt they talk to Luigi and have personalities that are distinct from every other ghost.
They didn't know they'd be turned into portraits. There literally is no motivation described by the game, so complaining about the lack of one in Dark Moon is what makes no sense.
And if their sole motivation is to "kill Luigi," then Dark Moon at least matched it.
Magicpaint
Member
Glad to see this review well. The original was so underrated and uniquely awesome.
I've seen two ghosts playing rock-paper-scissors in the Giantbomb Quick Look. That's good enough for me.
Valjean Lafitte
Banned
...except the game mentions that they are all ghosts that E. Gadd had previously captured. With the Poltergust, presumably. And then changed into portraits. And then freed by King Boo.
...have you even played Luigi's Mansion?
peanutbutterlatte
Member
Bill Murray is sternly shaking his head.
Poltergust
Member
Most of them were passive, actually. Outside of the bosses, the portrait ghosts didn't even attack Luigi until he did something to upset them (vacuuming away some food, beating them in a game, hitting them with a punching bag, etc.).
Heck, one of them even helped Luigi.
It seemed more to me that they were controlled by the Boos. The Boos were the ones that released them in the first place, after all.