The new Dragon Ball Super arc starts this Saturday, it's a big tournament where multiple universes convene for the first time to see who's the strongest. Each Universe has a number (up to 12) and we got sorted into a universe based on our birth month. I made the numbers that go in the avatars for each person participating. It's kind of like we're "rooting" for that universe.
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Magic: the Gathering |OT10| Aether Revolt - That shit that make your Soul Burn slow
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The new Dragon Ball Super arc starts this Saturday, it's a big tournament where multiple universes convene for the first time to see who's the strongest. Each Universe has a number (up to 12) and we got sorted into a universe based on our birth month. I made the numbers that go in the avatars for each person participating. It's kind of like we're "rooting" for that universe.
Ah, cool. I was curious. I really should watch DB Super, that sounds awesome.
Infinite Stars
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Doesn't make them any less predictions!
(I'm going to go a step above and say it will be Ajani Unyielding in some Abzan Counters list. They'll Ult and then have some Boardwipe.)
I'm also going to predict that Copycat will do extremely well in Constructed, but be kept out of the top 8 because terrible draft performances
TheBlackMarvel
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"Liliana, now would be a good time to use the Chain Veil."
That really looks like an Eldrazi...
Infinite Stars
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So, Cheeri0s can kill on Turn 1 thanks to the great card known as SSG.
Turn 1 SSG, Rugged Prairie, Dude, Storm off.
Deck is so going to eat a ban in March.
Turn 1 SSG, Rugged Prairie, Dude, Storm off.
Deck is so going to eat a ban in March.
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
Draft about to start
https://www.twitch.tv/magic
Ben Stark took 2 blue cards middle of pack 1 and marshall still thinks he's undecided between Blue and Black lf which he has 5 or more playables of already.
https://www.twitch.tv/magic
Ben Stark took 2 blue cards middle of pack 1 and marshall still thinks he's undecided between Blue and Black lf which he has 5 or more playables of already.
Yup, first round game two just finished.
Edit: This Grixis Improvise deck sure looks awkward as hell when it has a subpar draw.
Yeah, if you draw enablers but not what you're enabling it looks awkward as hell. I have the same problem with my modern deck. Sometimes I draw all the ramp but I never see a Primeval Titan and it's just weird.
divisionbyzorro
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What TF is this "advantage bar" nonsense? Is it just the casters feeling on who's winning? I could get behind this if it was accurately measuring relative card advantage over the course of a game (i.e., Noxious Gearhulking something gets you +1, mulliganing gets you -1, drawing two cards gets you +1, etc). But it looks to be...all subjective?
They're trying to make the stream a little more approachable to the viewers that aren't especially familiar with Standard Magic. Without it, boards can be pretty confusing or deceptive to the unenfranchised viewer. It could certainly use some work but at least they're making some attempt to broaden the potential viewability of the stream.
For folks familiar with Magic and/or Standard it's just a tiny bit of the overlay to ignore and forget exists.
divisionbyzorro
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Yeah, and he blinked his island on the turn he played the cat so he had dispel up the whole time. No big deal.
#banthecat
The problem is the most popular deck just instantly wins regardless of position,lol
Speaking of making this more approachable for Twitch viewers, is that the reason the players are wearing headsets now?
They started that with one of the more recent events but I don't remember which. My understanding from their comments when coverage commented on it at that event was that it was so the table receiving coverage couldn't hear coverage and/or reactions to coverage from onlookers.
Edit: If I remember correctly, there was some controversy in Hearthstone recently where a Chinese team was watching the stream and shouting plays to their teammate. From their player's perspective it was a terrible play but given the information of the opponent's hand it was the best play. Maybe that had something to do with it.
It's subjective, just a (possibly misguided) way to teach newer players that boardstate matters more than life total.
I didn't even notice it until someone pointed it out.
Yeah, it's weird.
So the pro's have figured out my secret deck tech
Heart of Kiran
GreenBelt Rampager
Basically what i noticed is that if you can get down a turn 2 or 3 heart/Greenbelt the saheeli players have a hard time dealing with it, They are running a ton of Harnessed lightnings, and Radiant flames, and both of those cards deal with neither green belt or Heart of Kiran.
https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/562556#paper
Was the deck I've been playing the last few days, and even though the mana is jank as fuck, and the white probably doesn't need to be there, I felt that i wanted counterspells in blue. and greenbelt, Heart of Kiran, backed by counterspells/negate mana and pressure was affecting alot of the jeskai decks.
I got told the deck was bad last night (which it is, I would love to push it to 3 colors, and the Displacer seems a little out of place) but i was following the right track.
Greenbelt Rampagers, Heart of Kiran, and Energy makers
I had been testing it for awhile, and it beat most jank brews, and was something like 4 - 2 against Saheeli/Jeskai and BG decks. Though i was thinking a 3rd fumigate over the 3rd Release the Gremlins was probably better.
Edit: These decks could all be proven wrong, and Combo still takes the protouranyway (Gearhulks can just overpower you sometimes, especially when they draw them), but I think being aggro is the way to beat it.
Heart of Kiran
GreenBelt Rampager
Basically what i noticed is that if you can get down a turn 2 or 3 heart/Greenbelt the saheeli players have a hard time dealing with it, They are running a ton of Harnessed lightnings, and Radiant flames, and both of those cards deal with neither green belt or Heart of Kiran.
https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/562556#paper
Was the deck I've been playing the last few days, and even though the mana is jank as fuck, and the white probably doesn't need to be there, I felt that i wanted counterspells in blue. and greenbelt, Heart of Kiran, backed by counterspells/negate mana and pressure was affecting alot of the jeskai decks.
I got told the deck was bad last night (which it is, I would love to push it to 3 colors, and the Displacer seems a little out of place) but i was following the right track.
Greenbelt Rampagers, Heart of Kiran, and Energy makers
I had been testing it for awhile, and it beat most jank brews, and was something like 4 - 2 against Saheeli/Jeskai and BG decks. Though i was thinking a 3rd fumigate over the 3rd Release the Gremlins was probably better.
Edit: These decks could all be proven wrong, and Combo still takes the protouranyway (Gearhulks can just overpower you sometimes, especially when they draw them), but I think being aggro is the way to beat it.
They don't need the planeswalker to stick around for a turn.
Well, they don't need it, unless they want to go T3/T4. Every turn you lose against aggro is problematic.
Aggro decks are not that fast, you can wait/stall until turn 5/6/7 usually relatively easy.
That slow? Pity. Only watched the Limited GP. Apologies then.
Played against someone with a paradox engine deck that used Greenbelt Rampager to generate additional untaps.
Thought it was mediocre/cute until they played something that spent energy and went infinite. A consulate turret killed me, of all things. This standard is bringing out some incredible brews.
Thought it was mediocre/cute until they played something that spent energy and went infinite. A consulate turret killed me, of all things. This standard is bringing out some incredible brews.
Familienoberhauptvogel
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Looked up his name last time but forgot what it was. Just have to google legacy gp top 8 reanimator and you'll get it.
Someone got DQ'd in round 5. Tricked his opponent into thinking he took damage.
edit: Found ironmang's name but can't find him on the standings.
Someone got DQ'd in round 5. Tricked his opponent into thinking he took damage.
edit: Found ironmang's name but can't find him on the standings.
Good, root the cheaters out.
It was Brock Parker. Here is what happened
I'm surprised there was a DQ for this unless he had a warning earlier in the day- seems like a massive communication error
Latest Developments - M-Files Aether Revolt Part 1
[EDIT] Booooo!
TJA: Two of these (or one plus a Clone effect) go infinite. Is that problematic?
DEL: Arbitrarily large, but at least they wouldn't draw the game.
Technically, infinite is different than an arbitrary large number. Three Oblivion Rings with no other nonland permanents actually do go infinite, and the game ends in a draw. This combo lets you repeat it over and over again. Tim made this comment, but we weren't that worried about two copies of this creating an infinite number of ETB triggers. You'd need a third card to go infinite. We did miss the interaction with Saheeli, however, and that has led to some . . . interesting decks in Standard. While we were pushing for more combo decks in Standard with Aether Revolt, this is not the kind of deck we would intentionally take a risk with. In hindsight, Felidar Guardian definitely should've said "creature or artifact." Pro Tour Aether Revolt is this weekend, and we'll be watching to see how these decks do.
[EDIT] Booooo!
BH: Changed from Monkey Pirate to just Monkey.
I wanted to leave you with this oneand what almost was. There was real-life discussion in our offices on whether a Monkey has the cognitive faculties to decide to be a Pirate. I argued that Monkeys are, by their very nature, pretty close to Pirates; they naturally steal, swear, and sing sea shanties. But it wasn't enough, and Ragavan was relegated to being jobless forever.
Familienoberhauptvogel
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It's a bit disappointing they didn't make a single vehicle masterpiece.
Holy shit they actually missed the interaction lol
SigmasonicX
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M-Files - Aether Revolt part 1
* The big one: Copycat was not intentional. It also doesn't appear to be a last minute change. It flickered a permanent, they thought it would be fine because any combo would require two cats and a third card, and didn't even think about Saheeli. While they wanted combos in Standard, this isn't the sort of combo they'd knowingly push.
* Trophy Mage originally got CMC 2 or 3, but the intention was always to see which was more fun in Standard and narrow it down to that. It couldn't be a range because unlike Trinket and Treasure Mage, those are the artifacts you actually want at the point you usually cast the Mage.
* They tried out a variation of soulbond called metalbond that gave activated abilities to artifacts. The Quicksmiths are the last remnants.
* Ragavan was originally a Monkey Pirate, but there was a debate about whether monkeys were mentally capable of acting deliberately as a pirate or if they just naturally acted in a pirate-like way.
EDIT: Was writing this on my phone.
* The big one: Copycat was not intentional. It also doesn't appear to be a last minute change. It flickered a permanent, they thought it would be fine because any combo would require two cats and a third card, and didn't even think about Saheeli. While they wanted combos in Standard, this isn't the sort of combo they'd knowingly push.
* Trophy Mage originally got CMC 2 or 3, but the intention was always to see which was more fun in Standard and narrow it down to that. It couldn't be a range because unlike Trinket and Treasure Mage, those are the artifacts you actually want at the point you usually cast the Mage.
* They tried out a variation of soulbond called metalbond that gave activated abilities to artifacts. The Quicksmiths are the last remnants.
* Ragavan was originally a Monkey Pirate, but there was a debate about whether monkeys were mentally capable of acting deliberately as a pirate or if they just naturally acted in a pirate-like way.
EDIT: Was writing this on my phone.
Burn it down.
Seriously, they need to massively revise their policies on testing if this crap is making it through.
I thought that was rather obvious. It's not the kind of combo they'd want in Standard
Agreed in full. This is the kind of mistake that heads should roll over.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
The problem people aren't noticing is that the reason Vehicles and Snake are constantly on camera is because you can't afford to put Fumigate in your deck with Cat Combo in the field.
That's probably just a marketing thing. She was completely irrelevant in the story iirc.
She was completely irrelevant in standard too hahaha
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