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Magic: the Gathering |OT13| Ixalan - Port to Sideboard
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Seems like only a matter of time at this point. I wonder if it will be Monday's article which MaRo has been hyping for a few months as the "biggest change to the way magic is being designed" since he started at WOTC.
SigmasonicX
Member
He specifically said that was an internal change, not something readily apparent to players, though.
That said, I would be down for cards making clearer what abilities they have at a glance.
Words. Words make it clear what abilities cards have. Those icons are harder to recognise than at a glance than the words. Arena has no textboxes so the icons make sense, but there's zero point in using them in paper.
EDIT: The only reason I could see is for consistency within Paper and Arena templates.
EDIT: The only reason I could see is for consistency within Paper and Arena templates.
Wasn't that the Architect team Verhey's on that's supervising all the others?
charlequin
Banned
This is specifically about the way teams are constituted and the process from beginning to end of a set. We've already seen examples of this with the Play Design team working on a single set over its entire design lifespan, but several R&D people have said things hinting at even bigger changes to the basic "starts in design, then goes to development" mode from the past.
Oh I wouldn't ever replace the words. The card type icons on the Future frame didn't replace words, just gave you another way to quickly know the card's type at a glance. Similarly, it'd be extremely bad to replace the words "Flying" etc. on the card entirely, but could make the cards more easily usable if they were also reflected by icons.
I think it's that and Play Design and some other changes to the Design -> Dev paradigm we don't know about yet.
Infinite Stars
Member
If they revamp the card frame again, it'd be the perfect way to do the Future Sight Frames. Those symbols look like they'd be 1-2 steps to Future Sight style.
You can then get the following information from the frame without the text-box
Color, Type, Abilities, Cost, and Stats
C'mon he inevitably was going to. I'm just hoping they use this as a convenient and quick way to rewrite his character from being a sour puss into someone with an actual personality.
... who also loves a gorgon.
Royal_Flush
Member
I think it's a mistake to give set mechanics an own icon. I would use thise only for evergreen mechanics. In the short run it might be cool but what if Arena is still around in 10 years? I imagine you will burn through representations for similar mechanics very quickly. And people won't even remember the symbols by then... I think it will get quite messy.
jakonovski
Member
Can Gorgons choose which parts of the enemy they turn to stone? Asking for a friend.
charlequin
Banned
Actually costs them too much to do this.
I trust that the symbols shown aren't the only symbols for abilities in Arena. I mean, it'd be super weird to have unique symbols for Raid and Enrage but not Vigilance and First Strike.
I'll appreciate them in Arena just because there's no text box on any card at a glance, but unless they're really worried about confusing new paper players I don't see much of a reason to change up frames and add them there.
I'll appreciate them in Arena just because there's no text box on any card at a glance, but unless they're really worried about confusing new paper players I don't see much of a reason to change up frames and add them there.
Played Legacy last night which I haven't done in several months and went 2-2. Even with my lost, my opponents and I agreed it were the most enjoyable magic we've played in a long while.
We had this one counter magic battle where he attempted to cast Delver of Secrets. I was at a low life total, so I couldn't let it resolve. I Force of Will, pitching whatever. He FoW back. I had Flusterstorm and Invigorate in hand and he had 4 mana up to pay for the Flusterstorm count, so I had to Invigorate my Noble Hierarch just to get my storm count to 5 and then cast Flusterstorm. My opponent and I busted out laughing haha!
We had this one counter magic battle where he attempted to cast Delver of Secrets. I was at a low life total, so I couldn't let it resolve. I Force of Will, pitching whatever. He FoW back. I had Flusterstorm and Invigorate in hand and he had 4 mana up to pay for the Flusterstorm count, so I had to Invigorate my Noble Hierarch just to get my storm count to 5 and then cast Flusterstorm. My opponent and I busted out laughing haha!
The Technomancer
card-carrying scientician
I'm not going to say that amnesia should never ever ever be used as a plot device but jfc "he hit his head on a rock and now he gets his memories back" really?
Really?
Really?
Really?
Really?
For the kids!
Why can't Vraska just stay the evil assassin she always was? You can "humanize" her or develop her character without putting her into a relationship or trying to "redeem" her FFS! Bleh
LOL I got this reference
LOL I got this reference
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
I'd think it more offensive if her redemption came through falling for a bishounen pretty boy.
This is why even if Weatherlight's story was a fucking mess, there was a lot of buildup in describing the world, the lore of the places they were going, and how important they were.
Right now we get like six stories for a plane, which amount to a novella (if even that) and then we have to rely on the cards themselves to explore the plane and such.
When we had the novels they allowed the writer to breathe and illustrate the world in words that made everything feel like it belonged.
This just feels like THE AMAZING RACE: IXALAN EDITION
Also Drama!
I've said it before and I'll say it again; relationship drama, when not handled well, turns out GARBAGE
The early stories with Jace were amazing. Leaving him to his surroundings was great, and the story had a slow but elemental pace.
Now he's about to regenerate from Matt Smith back into Patrick Troughton or some shit
SigmasonicX
Member
Today's Daily Update confirms that Magic Story won't have regular updates until January, but there will occasionally be something. We already know that MaRo is writing at least one story for Unstable, for instance.
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
wait that's the whole story?
For Ixalan it is. The story will continue when Rivals comes out in January.
literally got the story spotlight #5 in this one, so yes
the bits and pieces of the Legion of Dusk are way more interesting than all of this.
Though the story today really REAAAAAAAAAALLY hints at it being a Mirari.
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
But nothing really happened
We get it. You want these cards to fuck. Well you are going to have to wait for the exciting 'climax' in Rivals of Ixalan(tm) coming in January 2018.
A Serious Man
Member
I'm having fun imagining all the dumb things that will happen in the Dominaria storyline.
SigmasonicX
Member
We already determined how Urza would be reintroduced last week.
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
I don't actually have a stake in this ship, Vraska is no Tsugumi.
SigmasonicX
Member
I don't have any problems with the romance myself either way, though it is fun to make jokes.
Now if they were small lesbian horses, I might have a stronger opinion.
Now if they were small lesbian horses, I might have a stronger opinion.
Something I was thinking about today, what is stopping someone from cheating in drafts? Especially on the local game store level. The prize for first place where I'm at is nothing to sneeze at. No one really checks the cards, and everyone goes in and out of the store constantly. If I was a big piece of shit, I could EASILY bring in cards I didn't draft and make my deck insane. I don't think people are doing it, but it would be incredibly easy.
SigmasonicX
Member
At larger events, the pack contents are known beforehand, so anything outside the pool will raise a red flag. LGS events are indeed just based on the honor system, or rather the "why bother?" system. However, I imagine if the owner suspects you're cheating, they have more latitude to ban you from the store without proof needed.
Arena stream starting
https://www.twitch.tv/magic
https://www.twitch.tv/magic
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
Really hard to do right. Eventually you'll meet an opponent in the same colours and/or with a good enough memory to discern he didn't pass any if those cards and question who passed you pack 2.
ThLunarian
Member
It might be easy to get caught if you overhaul your entire deck, but it wouldn't be hard to add, say, one bomb rare and an awesome uncommon before the first round starts, and no one would be the wiser
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
yeah you can definitely get away with it but I'd expect you'd eventually get caught w/o a coconspirator. Seems much easier to just signup with a friend at a store that only fires 1 table each time and prearrange signals.
Tapped cards in Arena is going to join Urza is Green, Unban SFM, and Is Cryptic Command Balanced? as a regular topic of conversation in these threads, isn't it?
If it is a cause for regular conversation then give the option for us to change it. It doesn't matter what it looks like from the other players perspective let us change from our own POV. They can have the bad looking tap from their view for all i care.