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[StereoVsn]

With mods this game will be great.

MMJHA - Make MJ Hot Again mod!

 

[violence]

I still laugh thinking about that Spanish streamer muting the game after hearing “gender-neutral Spanish.” Maybe they can mod the real language back in the game. Probably not on Nexus though.

 

[Cakeboxer]

When mods have fixed the unbearable crap i might pick it up for 10 Euro.

 

[KyoZz]

BEHOLD THE STRONGEST WEAPON IN THE GAME: THE TASER

This game is stupid. MJ is taking down Symbiote(s) faster than Spider-Man thx to her little taser. At least she could tell Spidey how it's done because my man is having way too much trouble

 

[ArtHands]

I can only hope the PC version isn’t as buggy as the PS5 one

 

[Gaiff]

I can only hope the PC version isn’t as buggy as the PS5 one

 

[Corporal.Hicks]

The RTX5090 can run this game at 4K 60fps without RT, but not with RT. It seems the PS5Pro was faster than we realize

 

[Mister Wolf]

The RTX5090 can run this game at 4K 60fps without RT, but not with RT. It seems the PS5Pro was faster than we realize

Do we know for certain it isn't a CPU bottleneck?

 

[Corporal.Hicks]

Do we know for certain it isn't a CPU bottleneck?

CPU usage was high, but I think his 5090 wasn't bottlenecked because with just DLSS quality he was finally able to run this game at much higher framerate.

 

[skneogaf]

The RTX5090 can run this game at 4K 60fps without RT, but not with RT. It seems the PS5Pro was faster than we realize

Over 30GB of vram at 8k ray tracing and frame generation

 

[zeroluck]

The graphics in this game is very mediocre.

 

[Jinzo Prime]

The RTX5090 can run this game at 4K 60fps without RT, but not with RT. It seems the PS5Pro was faster than we realize

It's just a shit port.

 

[KyoZz]

The RTX5090 can run this game at 4K 60fps without RT, but not with RT. It seems the PS5Pro was faster than we realize

You do realize that the PS5 Pro version is not running the game maxed out, right? Ant that if we turn down the settings to match those on PS5 Pro the FPS are way higher, you do realize that right?

Right...?

 

[Corporal.Hicks]

You do realize that the PS5 Pro version is not running the game maxed out, right? Ant that if we turn down the settings to match those on PS5 Pro the FPS are way higher, you do realize that right?

Right...?

The RTX5090 is so overpowered it should easily run PS5 game at 4K native 60fps even with maxed out settings.

PS5Pro has comparable performance to RTX2080ti / RX6800 and based what I saw I dont believe these cards can run spiderman 2 with PS5Pro like settings (1800p, probably high settings + RT) at 60fps. Even the RTX4070 was offering much worse experience with reduced settings.

 

[Gaiff]

CPU usage was high, but I think his 5090 wasn't bottlenecked because with just DLSS quality he was finally able to run this game at much higher framerate.

The CPU definitely can’t keep up. There are random non-GPU drops. The port was rushed anyway, so meh.

 

[diffusionx]

BEHOLD THE STRONGEST WEAPON IN THE GAME: THE TASER

This game is stupid. MJ is taking down Symbiote(s) faster than Spider-Man thx to her little taser. At least she could tell Spidey how it's done because my man is having way too much trouble

I just want to point out that Insomniac's first game was a FPS and they made a series on PS3 with extremely good FPS combat and made a Xbox game with very solid third person shooting... and they put this shit in the last mission.

 

[DenchDeckard]

The RTX5090 is so overpowered it should easily run PS5 game at 4K native 60fps even with maxed out settings.

PS5Pro has comparable performance to RTX2080ti / RX6800 and based what I saw I dont believe these cards can run spiderman 2 with PS5Pro like settings (1800p, probably high settings + RT) at 60fps. Even the RTX4070 was offering much worse experience with reduced settings.

 

[KyoZz]

The RTX5090 is so overpowered it should easily run PS5 game at 4K native 60fps even with maxed out settings.

PS5Pro has comparable performance to RTX2080ti / RX6800 and based what I saw I dont believe these cards can run spiderman 2 with PS5Pro like settings (1800p, probably high settings + RT) at 60fps. Even the RTX4070 was offering much worse experience with reduced settings.

Sometimes it's better to leave doubt about your stupidity rather than confirm it.

 

[Spukc]

 

[Corporal.Hicks]

Sometimes it's better to leave doubt about your stupidity rather than confirm it.

Quit being such a jerk to people and grow up someday. Maybe then someone will like you .


You tried to justify the poor performance of the RTX5090 in Spiderman 2 by saying that the game was running at its maximum settings. That's however not a good argument, because even much slower GPUs can easily max out PS5 ports on PC at 4K 60fps, yet allone the most powerful GPU currently available (the RTX5090). I would understand such poor performance if the game actually looked much better (and used PT lighting for example), but it doesn't.

Spiderman 2 port on PC is totally broken and runs like crap, but for some strange reason people like you want to defend it. Why?

 

[Mister Wolf]

The RTX5090 is so overpowered it should easily run PS5 game at 4K native 60fps even with maxed out settings.

PS5Pro has comparable performance to RTX2080ti / RX6800 and based what I saw I dont believe these cards can run spiderman 2 with PS5Pro like settings (1800p, probably high settings + RT) at 60fps. Even the RTX4070 was offering much worse experience with reduced settings.

The PS5 version only has raytraced reflections while the PC version has shadows, AO, and reflections.

 

[KyoZz]

Quit being such a jerk to people and grow up someday. Maybe then someone will like you .

Don't expect respect or consideration when you are console warring like you did.

You tried to justify the poor performance of the RTX5090 in Spiderman 2 by saying that the game was running at its maximum settings.

I'm explaining to you that no, the PS5 Pro is not equivalent to the 5090, which is what you implied.

That's however not a good argument, because even much slower GPUs can easily max out PS5 ports on PC at 4K 60fps, yet allone the most powerful GPU currently available (the RTX5090). I would understand such poor performance if the game actually looked much better (and used PT lighting for example), but it doesn't. Spiderman 2 port on PC is totally broken and runs like crap, but for some strange reason people like you want to defend it. Why?

I think the game is shit (I liked the first one tho) and the port is terrible. No need to make false claim like you did.

But again you just want to console war.

 

[Corporal.Hicks]

Don't expect respect or consideration when you are console warring like you did.


I'm explaining to you that no, the PS5 Pro is not equivalent to the 5090, which is what you implied.


I think the game is shit (I liked the first one tho) and the port is terrible. No need to make false claim like you did.

But again you just want to console war.

Show me where I said the PS5Pro was on par with the RTX5090. I said that the RTX5090 is so fast that it should easily run a PS5 game at 4K 60fps even at max settings. This implies that the PS5 is nowhere near as fast as the RTX5090.

 

[KyoZz]

Show me where I said the PS5Pro was on par with the RTX5090. I said that the RTX5090 is so fast that it should easily run a PS5 game at 4K 60fps even at max settings. This implies that the PS5 is nowhere near as fast as the RTX5090.

Dude stop being disingenuous, you know what you wrote. You haven't said it, you implied it.

 

[Corporal.Hicks]

The PS5 version only has raytraced reflections while the PC version has shadows, AO, and reflections.

The PS5Pro version has RT reflections, RT distance shadows, and RT AO.

Marvel's Spider-Man 2 on PS5 Pro: upgrading Insomniac's masterpiece

John Linneman investigates Marvel's Spider-Man 2 for PS5 Pro. How does the game benefit from the extra GPU power and RT features?

www.eurogamer.net

 

[Corporal.Hicks]

Dude stop being disingenuous, you know what you wrote. You haven't said it, you implied it.

You have a beautiful imagination, but I have said nothing to suggest that the PS5Pro or PS5 is as powerful as the RTX5090, quite the opposite.

This card absolutely destroy the PS5Pro, that's a fact. I think the RTX5090 should be around 4x faster in raster and much more if we take RT performance into account. Because the RTX5090 is so powerful I said this card should easily run PS5 port at 4K 60fps regardless of the settings, while you were trying imply that the settings are to blame for the poor performance.



And here's the RTX3060 test. I think this card is even faster than the base PS5, yet even at medium settings and without RT the game isnt running nearly as well as the PS5 version. It's proof that this port is an unoptimised mess.

 

[yamaci17]

not worth it

 

[KyoZz]

You have a beautiful imagination, but I have said nothing to suggest that the PS5Pro or PS5 is as powerful as the RTX5090, quite the opposite.

This card absolutely destroy the PS5Pro, that's a fact. I think the RTX5090 should be around 4x faster in raster and much more if we take RT performance into account. Because the RTX5090 is so powerful I said this card should easily run PS5 port at 4K 60fps regardless of the settings, while you were trying imply that the settings are to blame for the poor performance.



And here's the RTX3060 test. I think this card is even faster than the base PS5, yet even at medium settings and without RT the game isnt running nearly as well as the PS5 version. It's proof that this port is an unoptimised mess.

The RTX5090 can run this game at 4K 60fps without RT, but not with RT. It seems the PS5Pro was faster than we realize

"Faster than we realize" when you are talking about the 5090 and comparing the Pro. So yeah stop being disingenuous as I said. But if you don't see the problem then we can stop now.

 

[Corporal.Hicks]

here it runs medium settings (probably ps5 runs a mix of mediums and highs) and ray tracing high and 1440p dlss balanced (transformer model which is heavier to run on 3000 cards) gets around 50-60 FPS. it is quite decent performance for such a GPU. and no, rtx 3060 is not faster than the base PS5. it can catch up to PS5 in ray tracing loads but usually is the case with heavy ray tracing scenarios (ray traced lighting etc.) this game is still more raster heavy than ray tracing heavy so PS5 would probably outperform the 3060 even with ray tracing here as expected. no idea where this notion of 3060 being faster than PS5 came from. it is even slower from GPUs such as 6600xt and PS5 often performs somewhere between 6600xt and 6700xt

ps5 performance mode's resolution is dynamic and we will never know how many framerates it would run at with fixed upscaled resolution. fact of the matter is, 1440p dlss balanced looks like what native 1440p would look like compared to insomniac's own upscaler solution used on the PS5. and considering it drops down to 1080p or so with their own upscaling solution, safe to say 3060 would still pull ahead due to getting better image quality even at 1440p dlss performance...

then again, we don't even know if PS5 equivalent ray tracing settings are there or not. indiana jones did not have xbox series x equivalent ray tracing settings on PC and it actually looks worse than the low option on PC.

According to benchmarks the RTX 3060 is exactly as fast as radeon RX5700XT. I dont think the PS5 GPU is noticeably faster in raster than RX5700XT per flops (comparable shading power and memory bandwidth), but the RTX3060 should be faster in RT workloads for sure. Digital Foundry compared the RTX3060 to the base PS5 on several occasions and the RTX had the upper hand when it came to RT games.

Spiderman 2 use RT even on the base console, so the RTX3060 should be able to deliver similar experience (that was the case in previous spiderman 2 games).

"Faster than we realize" when you are talking about the 5090 and comparing the Pro. So yeah stop being disingenuous as I said. But if you don't see the problem then we can stop now.

That was a joke, dude, and you thought I was serious. But of course that was my mistake. I have to assume that some gamers may lack basic interpersonal skills and therefore cant understand jokes.

 

[Gaiff]

And here's the RTX3060 test. I think this card is even faster than the base PS5, yet even at medium settings and without RT the game isnt running nearly as well as the PS5 version. It's proof that this port is an unoptimised mess.

The RTX 3060 isn't faster than the base PS5. Plus, you have to approach an exclusive like this differently. It leverages the entire PS5 system, not just the GPU. A comparable PC with an older CPU and GPU might not fare as well. I'm not saying this game couldn't use more polish, but I'm not expecting a weaker GPU to perform anywhere near as well as a PS5 in exclusive titles.

 

[KyoZz]

That was a joke, dude, and you thought I was serious. But of course that was my mistake. I have to assume that some gamers may lack basic interpersonal skills and therefore cant understand jokes.

Oh! So now it's a joke... But I thought that wasn't what you meant? You are ridiculous.

 

[Corporal.Hicks]

The RTX 3060 isn't faster than the base PS5. Plus, you have to approach an exclusive like this differently. It leverages the entire PS5 system, not just the GPU. A comparable PC with an older CPU and CPU might not fare as well. I'm not saying this game couldn't use more polish, but I'm not expecting a weaker GPU to perform anywhere near as well as a PS5 in exclusive titles.

In RT workloads the RTX 3060 has the upper hand. But ok, lets use 6700XT in this comparison (13.21 TF, 384GB/s memory bandwidth that isnt shared with the CPU). It's definitely way faster GPU than the base PS5.

1080p at reduced RT settings and still only 51 fps. Spiderman 2 wasn't even fighting anyone, so I expect mid 40s during combat.

 

[Gaiff]

In RT workloads the RTX 3060 has the upper hand. But ok, lets use 6700XT in this comparison (13.21 TF, 384GB/s memory bandwidth that isnt shared with the CPU). It's definitely way faster GPU than the base PS5.

1080p at reduced RT settings and still only 51 fps. Spiderman 2 wasn't even fighting anyone, so expect much mid 40s during combat.

Performance Mode on PS5 ranges from 1008p to 1440p with only RT reflections. It can even drop to as low as 936p in extreme circumstances. Expect the base PS5 to perform in line with a 2080 Ti/3070 in this game. The Pro might beat a 4070 and get close to a 4070S. The port is also in a terrible state, further exacerbating the differences.

 

[Corporal.Hicks]

Performance Mode on PS5 ranges from 1008p to 1080p with only RT reflections. It can even drop to as low as 936p in extreme circumstances. Expect the base PS5 to perform in line with a 2080 Ti/3070 in this game. The Pro might beat a 4070 and get close to a 4070S. The port is also in a terrible state, further exacerbating the differences.

Let's wait for Digital Foundry's analysis, although I'm afraid they might not want to test this game in its current state.