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[Frankfurter]

June 14-20 2004
PS2: 26,000
GC: 4,500

Granted, 2002 and 2003 for this period, PS2 was at lower to mid 40ks, but just how much is far better?

Hard to call those far better with what the DS is doing. In June, no less.

50% more is ... far better

 

[Eroding_Era]

Then whats the DS :lol

 

[Frankfurter]

Then whats the DS :lol

Far, far better :lol

Seriously, just because there is a handheld that sells 100k+ in a June doesn't mean that 40k+ isn't far better than 20k+ (the same goes with every relative comparison that sees. such a big difference).

 

[GaimeGuy]

I could, but the biggest reason I wanted to make pie charts was to gain extra perspective from a dynamic weekly size.

Since it's only one line changed to make it fixed size, though, if anyone else wants to put such an animation together you can access a list of weekly fixed size pies here.

You're not using a good model if you want to show the different weekly sizes, as a pie chart is supposed to show the different parts of a whole, regardless on how big the whole may be.

 

[Oblivion]

Sony should be grateful that porn movies are keeping the PSP afloat.

 

[JoshuaJSlone]

You're not using a good model if you want to show the different weekly sizes, as a pie chart is supposed to show the different parts of a whole, regardless on how big the whole may be.

That seems a needless restriction on the definition of pie chart. Why can't it be both? It seems a perfectly fair way to show that while PS2 may have had a total share of 23% in this week and this week, they're very different things. Or that getting a decent slice this week matters more than getting the entire pie this week.

That's BS (i.e. PS2 sales before 2005 were always far better than what PSP does).

For visualization, here is PSP 2006 versus PS2 2004 and here is PSP 2006 versus PS2 2003.

It is worth pointing out, though, that while PS2 is less, and PSP is less, their sum makes for an overall Sony improvement. Sony 2006 versus Sony 2004 (which means PS2 alone until the tail end). Sony 2006 versus PS2 2003. While in these graphs they're drawing the same colors for each line, it's easy to tell which one is this year by the way it reaches an end to the data and crashes back to 0.

 

[mutsu]

Sony should be grateful that porn movies are keeping the PSP afloat.

And the pirate scene.

 

[AdmiralViscen]

It is worth pointing out, though, that while PS2 is less, and PSP is less, their sum makes for an overall Sony improvement. Sony 2006 versus Sony 2004 (which means PS2 alone until the tail end). Sony 2006 versus PS2 2003. While in these graphs they're drawing the same colors for each line, it's easy to tell which one is this year by the way it reaches an end to the data and crashes back to 0.

Do one of these for Nintendo.

edit: and Microsoft :lol :lol

 

[JoshuaJSlone]

Do one of these for Nintendo.

edit: and Microsoft :lol :lol

Nintendo 2006 versus Nintendo 2005
Nintendo 2006 versus Nintendo 2004
Nintendo 2006 versus Nintendo 2003

Microsoft 2006 versus Microsoft 2005
Microsoft 2006 versus Microsoft 2004
Microsoft 2006 versus Microsoft 2003

And since it wasn't included in the previous post
Sony 2006 versus Sony 2005

Right now it chooses a line's color based on the system, or in the case of a grouping like Manufacturer uses one of the systems. However, since this one isn't really like the other graphs in that something can be compared to itself at a different time frame, it probably makes more sense to switch it to a generic color set in the future.

 

[Mithos Yggdrasill]

What if Analysis :

What if PSP was designed to play PS1 games (power level of PS1 chips), instead of being able to play PS2 games (power level of PS2 chips) ? Will PSP be more successful, or less successful ?

Anyone remember when Yamauchi step down and replaced by Iwata ? Is it before DS release, or after DS release ?

An Handheld with two screens was a Yamauchi's idea, when he becomes an adviser.

 

[neo2046]

some unconfirmed data


Valkyrie Profile 2 Silmeria - 281,510
NEW SMB - 170,168
Brain Age 2 - 57,752
Winning Eleven 10 - 49,926
Brain Age - 38,766

 

[Emotions]

some unconfirmed data


Valkyrie Profile 2 Silmeria - 281,510
NEW SMB - 170,168
Brain Age 2 - 57,752
Winning Eleven 10 - 49,926
Brain Age - 38,766

Good for VP Silmeria and go DS go as usual

 

[Mr. Pointy]

Go go VP2 and NSMB! For great justice. Although I guess VP2 will drop like hot coal after 6 weeks.

 

[Smiles and Cries]

thanks neo

Go Mario

 

[sprsk]

iwata = liu bei
Kutaragi = caocao
peter moore = dong huo

 

[Clever Pun]

Go go VP2 and NSMB! For great justice. Although I guess VP2 will drop like hot coal after 6 weeks.

6? that's being generous.

 

[The_lascar]

some unconfirmed data


Valkyrie Profile 2 Silmeria - 281,510
NEW SMB - 170,168
Brain Age 2 - 57,752
Winning Eleven 10 - 49,926
Brain Age - 38,766

LTD :
Brain Training 2 : 2 594 989
Brain Training : 2 437 376
New Super Mario Bros. : 1 848 813
Now, BT2 > FF6.

 

[Kurosaki Ichigo]

Uh, bad (imo) for VP2. Not going to reach 500k if you ask me.

 

[jarrod]

Uh, bad (imo) for VP2. Not going to reach 500k if you ask me.

How well did VP1 sell though? 500k would be Star Ocean territory and I thought Valkyrie was always a bit less popular?

 

[ethelred]

Any Magical Vacation 2 numbers?

 

[starship]

some unconfirmed data


Valkyrie Profile 2 Silmeria - 281,510
NEW SMB - 170,168
Brain Age 2 - 57,752
Winning Eleven 10 - 49,926
Brain Age - 38,766

Ok, That puts NSMB at what I predicted before. With another 150k sales next week it'll reach 2m mark in 6 weeks. Pretty impressive if you ask me.

 

[Mark Gonzales]

Yep it's looking like when Japan actually receives say 11 million PS3's whenever that may be. Sony will then be leading the next Gen console war. That 10 mil projected 360 lead right now means nothing since they will have 10% market share in Japan, if that :lol

 

[Clever Pun]

Ok, That puts NSMB at what I predicted before. With another 150k sales next week it'll reach 2m mark in 6 weeks. Pretty impressive if you ask me.

combined with the 500k plus already confirmed in NA, and with the EU release coming up shortly (right?) It will be over 3 million wolrdwide shortly. Very impressive, especially considering what a staple it will become for new DS users through the rest of the year.

 

[Bo130]

It releases over here (Europe) this friday (june 30th). NSMB sure shows some legs

 

[Mr. Pointy]

How well did VP1 sell though? 500k would be Star Ocean territory and I thought Valkyrie was always a bit less popular?

~650k off of a ~300k launch week.

EDIT> Fixed.

 

[Kurosaki Ichigo]

How well did VP1 sell though? 500k would be Star Ocean territory and I thought Valkyrie was always a bit less popular?

Heh, I thought I posted in the same thread but I was wrong. I was referring to:

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=3711433&postcount=325

I wonder how it is going to do sales-wise...

Seeing the first one performance...

ヴァルキリープロファイル 99.12.22 PS
311,630 -> 97,282 -> 54,055
634,958 (49.08 %)

It had good legs for RPGs. Silmeria should start over 400k if it wants to match those numbers, I don't think it'll have legs but it should have its fanbase to secure some strong sales. Doubtful if it'll surpass 500k mark...

Seems its going down 500k mark, less opening, less legs (imo)...

 

[ioi]

some unconfirmed data


Valkyrie Profile 2 Silmeria - 281,510
NEW SMB - 170,168
Brain Age 2 - 57,752
Winning Eleven 10 - 49,926
Brain Age - 38,766

Holy crap for MARIO

those numbers are INSANE

 

[RaijinFY]

Holy crap for MARIO

those numbers are INSANE

Valkyrie Profile 2 Silmeria - 281,510

An explanation duck?

(well i know these are unconfirmed but still...)

Insane numbers for Mario indeed, but kinda expected to me.

Great numebrs for WE10 too.

 

[starship]

Holy crap for MARIO

those numbers are INSANE

You should wait to see Pokemon D/P sales numbers. I cannot even imagine what numbers their sales figures will be like.

 

[Fuzzy]

Yep it's looking like when Japan actually receives say 11 million PS3's whenever that may be. Sony will then be leading the next Gen console war. That 10 mil projected 360 lead right now means nothing since they will have 10% market share in Japan, if that :lol

The Xbox had 2% in Japan (out of PS2/GCN/Xbox), the 360 will be lucky to have much more than 1% if the Wii takes off as expected and the PS3 does well.

 

[Jokeropia]

An explanation duck?

It's Mario's fifth week vs. VP's first.

 

[Magicpaint]

It's Mario's fifth week vs. VP's first.

Not sure if he was complaring...

I think duckroll talked about how few of the shipments (was it 50%?) Valkyrie was able to sell through on the first day in another thread, and the numbers here would appear suprising if you factor what duck said previously...

 

[Barf_the_Mog]

The Xbox had 2% in Japan (out of PS2/GCN/Xbox), the 360 will be lucky to have much more than 1% if the Wii takes off as expected and the PS3 does well.

Xbox 360 has 100% of the next-gen market in Japan. C'mon, we need to throw them a bone. In any case, though, I'm predicting that Xbox 360 will be the number one console in America this generation.

 

[cvxfreak]

Mario just keeps going. 2 Million next week or the week after. Maybe it can catch up to BT2 in a few months, although its inevitable for BT2 to surpass Mario again in due time.

 

[Jokeropia]

Not sure if he was complaring...

I think duckroll talked about how few of the shipments (was it 50%?) Valkyrie was able to sell through on the first day in another thread, and the numbers here would appear suprising if you factor what duck said previously...

Ah, you are most likely correct.

 

[ioi]

Mario just keeps going. 2 Million next week or the week after. Maybe it can catch up to BT2 in a few months, although its inevitable for BT2 to surpass Mario again in due time.

I don't know so much.

This really is a phenomenal performance so far for Mario.

It has put up around the 6th biggest week 5 ever, and all the games above were out around xmas time.

http://www.vgcharts.org/japwk.php?week=5

 

[donny2112]

... and all the games above were out around New Year's time.

Fixed.

 

[Barf_the_Mog]

ioi (or anyone else), how do you think Mario will preform over the coming weeks and months? Will it sprout legs and consistantly sell 60,000/week until Christmas, or will it end up being frontloaded, ending its huge weekly sales once it hits its saturation point?

Could we see this title hitting 4 million units in Japan alone?

 

[ioi]

ioi (or anyone else), how do you think Mario will preform over the coming weeks and months? Will it sprout legs and consistantly sell 60,000/week until Christmas, or will it end up being frontloaded, ending its huge weekly sales once it hits its saturation point?

Could we see this title hitting 4 million units in Japan alone?

I think it'll do 4m to be honest, and possible become the biggest Mario game ever in Japan.

Not much more than that tho.

We'll probably see something like 140 > 110 > 85 > 75 > 65 etc and hovering around 40-50k for a while, with a nice boost come xmas time.

 

[Mithos Yggdrasill]

Uh, bad (imo) for VP2. Not going to reach 500k if you ask me.

Well, the first episode started with 300k. In the long term, it reached 650k.
So, VP2 starts almost at the same level.

Holy crap for MARIO

those numbers are INSANE

Ah ioi, what are your predictions for NSMB now ?

I think it'll do 4m to be honest, and possible become the biggest Mario game ever in Japan.

Not much more than that tho.

We'll probably see something like 140 > 110 > 85 > 75 > 65 etc and hovering around 40-50k for a while, with a nice boost come xmas time.

Ehm, to become the best selling Mario's game in Japan it must surpass the original Super Mario Bros, that it sold something around 6.5 millions if I'm not wrong.

And this if impossibile in my opinion. But I agree that something around 3-4 millions is almost sure at this point.

 

[ioi]

Well, the first episode started with 300k. In the long term, it reached 650k.
So, VP2 starts almost at the same level.

Won't have the same legs tho.

Will do around 70k next week, 35k, 20k etc and drop off pretty quickly imo

 

[neo2046]

more unconfirmed data


new game
PS2 Valkyrie Profile 2 Silmeria - 281,510
PSP A Train - 1191
NDS Magical Vacation - 13,571
PS2 KOF XI- 28,015
PSP Sega whatever Brain Training [link]- 23,548
PS2 Galaxy Angel 2 - 18,902
PS2 School Alice - 4,093
PS2 格闘美神　3,891



NDS NEW SMB - 170,168
NDS Brain Age 2 - 57,752
PS2 Winning Eleven 10 - 49,926
NDS Brain Age - 38,766
NDS Digimon Story　21,520
NDS Phoenix Wright Ace Attorney BEST PRICE - 7,991
PSP Dokodemo Issho Let's Gakkou! - 5,424
NDS Metal Saga DS - 3,133
NDS Zoid Dash - 2,501
NDS Kaito (Thief) Rousseau - 1,694
NDS MP Hunters - 7485
NDS Izuna - 977
NDS TETRIS DS - 20412
PSP DQ FF in Itadaki Street - 4707




(the hw numbers are less reliable, I dunno these are come from the same soure or not)
DSL - 157022
PS2 - 25467
PSP - 24737
DS - 10132
GBASP - 3784
GBM - 1502
Xbox360 - 1169

 

[A Link to the Past]

So how much do you guys think PW has sold so far?

I know it's sold at least 10k in Europe...

So about 45k in America and 157k in Japan?

So about 212k. Neat.

 

[RaijinFY]

NDS Magical Vacation - 13,571

Bomba!

PSP A Train - 1191

Mega bomba!!

 

[Magicpaint]

Phoenix Wright is doing great.

Man, Magical Vacation 2 bomba TOTAL, hopefully it does better in the west.

Those hardware numbers seem reliable, but the DSL rise is weird, I expected a big drop from last week.

 

[Mithos Yggdrasill]

DSL - 157022
PS2 - 25467
PSP - 24737
DS - 10132
GBASP - 3784
GBM - 1502
Xbox360 - 1169[/QUOTE]

Another 168k for Nintendo DS this week.....
Has DS surpassed the 9 millions mark in japan ?

 

[Rock_Man]

Yes!

 

[starship]

ioi (or anyone else), how do you think Mario will preform over the coming weeks and months? Will it sprout legs and consistantly sell 60,000/week until Christmas, or will it end up being frontloaded, ending its huge weekly sales once it hits its saturation point?

Could we see this title hitting 4 million units in Japan alone?

I think it will do something like this in the next weeks:

150k ---> 120k ---> 100k ---> 90k ---> 80k ---> 80k ....

I don't think its sales fell below 80k anytime soon.
It will do more than 4m easily and IMO it will become the best selling DS games except Pokemon D/P.

 

[Frankfurter]

DSL - 157022
PS2 - 25467
PSP - 24737
DS - 10132
GBASP - 3784
GBM - 1502
Xbox360 - 1169

Another 168k for Nintendo DS this week.....
Has DS surpassed the 9 millions mark in japan ?

If these numbers are correct, it has.

 

[human5892]

I'm interested to see how Winning Eleven DS does whenever it comes out...